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Dec 24, 2013 00:58:13   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Kennedy authored NCLBA? Again, bulls**t.

No Child Left Behind Act: sponsors

in the house;

John Boehner, R-OH
George Miller, D-CA.

in the Senate:

Judd Gregg, R-NH
Ted Kennedy, D-MA.

As I said, much legislation in ALL presidencies is done by bi-partisan sponsorship.

And the American Taxpayer Relief Bill was the MAJOR bill of last year, ending a long impasse on funding the government. Introduced by a Republican in the House. V**ed on in the Senate. And signed by the president. Not much else passed this year due to GOP-obstruction. In fact, this may be one of only two or three bills passed this year.

When a major force in the GOP says: "bi-partisanship is another word for date rape" you're not going to see many Republicans teaming up with Democrats. But there are those who do, despite Norquist's twisted words.

You gotta be s**tting me Dennis-up until midnight, 15+ hours in front of your screen,on the "chat room" spewing these lies? "Oh, Ted Kennedy wrote NCLB." Bulls**t. Look at the Congressional Record before you make such a statement. It's all there in black and white.

And get a life. I don't know how you do it.Most people have to work and those who don't usually have much more fulfilling lives that "chatting" on the computer 15-16 hours a day. Do you have a wife? When do you see her? When was the last time you made, well, never mind. Your children? Your dog? The sky? The outside of your house?

So you want a list, do you, dips**t? No problem.


DennisDee wrote:
jon

You are as dishonest as your dopey friend. And none of the bills he mentioned were major bills. I said major bills

I thought you were knowledgeable enough to know Bush signed Kennedy's No Child Left Behind and Sarbanes Oxley signed by Paul Sarbanes among others. I overestimated your grasp of facts. Sorry I will not repeat the mistake of assuming you are informed.

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Dec 24, 2013 01:04:53   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Not sure exactly what your getting at. But read a biography of Ayn Rand before you put too much faith in her words. An atheist, morally and sexually debauched, who died crazy and alone.

An old joke: What is the difference between Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged?

One is book worshipped by maladjusted teenagers living in a world of fantasy the other is a book about hobbits.

Armageddun wrote:
“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing;
when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men
get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect
them against you. . . you may know that your society is doomed.” Ayn Rand

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Dec 24, 2013 02:09:22   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
DennisDee wrote:
jon

You are as dishonest as your dopey friend. And none of the bills he mentioned were major bills. I said major bills

I thought you were knowledgeable enough to know Bush signed Kennedy's No Child Left Behind and Sarbanes Oxley signed by Paul Sarbanes among others. I overestimated your grasp of facts. Sorry I will not repeat the mistake of assuming you are informed.


When caught out, Dennis denies his misrepresentation was a lie and then resorts to dopey insult-talk. Hi, Dennis, how do you like your pattern described in way that everyone recognizes what you are.

Specifically, twisty DenDen, how are the TWO "major" bills you cite more major than the ones your opposing arguer presented? Either you show these two as "more major" than the two cited the other way or you admit you are a misrepresenter, a deliberate repeated liar. What evasion, what angry trash-talk from Dennis this time? Again, Dennis, how many times does this make that you've been caught out in misrepresentations?

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Dec 24, 2013 02:14:47   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
Not sure exactly what your getting at. But read a biography of Ayn Rand before you put too much faith in her words. An atheist, morally and sexually debauched, who died crazy and alone.

An old joke: What is the difference between Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged?

One is book worshipped by maladjusted teenagers living in a world of fantasy the other is a book about hobbits.


Thanks for the info about Ayn Rand. I'll pass it on to Rep. PauL Ryan, who is rumored to be a Rand fan. Oh, the company these people keep who claim to represent Christian and family values!

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Dec 24, 2013 11:40:58   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Sarbanes(D-MD) and Oxley (R-OH)

No Child Left Behind Act (proposed by PResident Bush,co-authored by John Boneher, R-Oh, George Miller, D-CA, Ted Kennedy, D-MA and Judd Greg, R-NH)


As far as The American Taxpayer Relief bill of 2013, introduced by Dave Camp , R-MI. being important, it was a bill that partially headed off "fiscal cliff." And indication of it's importance was that it was signed by President Obama the next day.

And it was the ONLY bill the obstructionists House and Cloture-accicted Senate Republicans sent to Obama for signature in 2013-the only bill.

Just like the Jumpstart our Business act of 2012, authored by Stephen Lee Finchner, R-TN, which was the ONLY bill in 2012 forwarded by the GOP controlled House and the Republican cloture-addicted obstructionists in the Senate.

An example of this obstruction police by the GOP is Mitch McConnell's (R-KY) motion, in Dec. 2012, for a filibuster on a bill that he had introduced. It is the first time in the history of the Republic that a Senator had self-filibustered. Reason? He didn't want give Democrats a chance to v**e for his bill that would have helped solve long-running problems getting budgets through Congress. Pure political partisan theater.

This is the same McConnell who said, in 2009, "Our main aim is to make sure Barack Obama is a one term president." No serve the people, not do his job, but to engage in partisan politics. McConnell said unless the president met Republicans "half way" congressional Republicans would not "do business" with him.

And the Republicans have used the filibuster 19 times to block judicial nominations by President Obama, compared to three times during the previous 175 (or so) years, although it only temporarily block the nominations.

Some might say Congress not passing legislation is a good thing. But when a simple budget can't be passed, when bi-partisanship is considered "date rape" when the basic business of confirming p**********l nominations is halted, when even a debate on legislation is greeted by threat of a filibuster in the Senate, taking away majority rule on even discussion of a bill, there's a problem. And it caused, almost entirely, the congressional Republicans. You may not feel that way, but a majority of Americans, according to Gallup and Rasmussen polls, do.


Merry Christmas, Dennis.



DennisDee wrote:
jon

You are as dishonest as your dopey friend. And none of the bills he mentioned were major bills. I said major bills

I thought you were knowledgeable enough to know Bush signed Kennedy's No Child Left Behind and Sarbanes Oxley signed by Paul Sarbanes among others. I overestimated your grasp of facts. Sorry I will not repeat the mistake of assuming you are informed.

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Dec 24, 2013 12:07:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
Sarbanes(D-MD) and Oxley (R-OH)

No Child Left Behind Act (proposed by PResident Bush,co-authored by John Boneher, R-Oh, George Miller, D-CA, Ted Kennedy, D-MA and Judd Greg, R-NH)


As far as The American Taxpayer Relief bill of 2013, introduced by Dave Camp , R-MI. being important, it was a bill that partially headed off "fiscal cliff." And indication of it's importance was that it was signed by President Obama the next day.

And it was the ONLY bill the obstructionists House and Cloture-accicted Senate Republicans sent to Obama for signature in 2013-the only bill.

Just like the Jumpstart our Business act of 2012, authored by Stephen Lee Finchner, R-TN, which was the ONLY bill in 2012 forwarded by the GOP controlled House and the Republican cloture-addicted obstructionists in the Senate.

An example of this obstruction police by the GOP is Mitch McConnell's (R-KY) motion, in Dec. 2012, for a filibuster on a bill that he had introduced. It is the first time in the history of the Republic that a Senator had self-filibustered. Reason? He didn't want give Democrats a chance to v**e for his bill that would have helped solve long-running problems getting budgets through Congress. Pure political partisan theater.

This is the same McConnell who said, in 2009, "Our main aim is to make sure Barack Obama is a one term president." No serve the people, not do his job, but to engage in partisan politics. McConnell said unless the president met Republicans "half way" congressional Republicans would not "do business" with him.

And the Republicans have used the filibuster 19 times to block judicial nominations by President Obama, compared to three times during the previous 175 (or so) years, although it only temporarily block the nominations.

Some might say Congress not passing legislation is a good thing. But when a simple budget can't be passed, when bi-partisanship is considered "date rape" when the basic business of confirming p**********l nominations is halted, when even a debate on legislation is greeted by threat of a filibuster in the Senate, taking away majority rule on even discussion of a bill, there's a problem. And it caused, almost entirely, the congressional Republicans. You may not feel that way, but a majority of Americans, according to Gallup and Rasmussen polls, do.


Merry Christmas, Dennis.
Sarbanes(D-MD) and Oxley (R-OH) br br No Child L... (show quote)


Are you familiar with the term "filling the amendment tree?" It is a tactic, until recently, rarely employed by the Senate Majority Leader to stifle any amendment or discussion on a piece of legislation. Harry Reid has used it 70 plus times. This is more than the combined totals of the past 6 Majority Leaders, both Democrat and Republicans. As a matter of fact, it is more than twice as many times as the combined totals of the past 6 Majority Leaders. I have heard numerous Democrat cheerleaders bemoan the fact that the House has passed 40 bills to defund Obamacare. How about the 70 plus times that the Democrats have railroaded bills through the Senate with no discussion or debate, or amendment? Harry Reid is a venal, backstabbing liar with the moral fiber of an egg sucking weasel in heat, as I stated before. Other Democrats are beginning to question his high handedness, rightfully realizing that the Democrats will not control the Senate forever, and may lose it in the next four years. But I'm sure the Republicans will take the moral high ground and forget all about Reid's parlimentary shenanigans. Aren't you glad?

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Dec 24, 2013 21:52:25   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
Not sure exactly what your getting at. But read a biography of Ayn Rand before you put too much faith in her words. An atheist, morally and sexually debauched, who died crazy and alone.

An old joke: What is the difference between Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged?

One is book worshipped by maladjusted teenagers living in a world of fantasy the other is a book about hobbits.


I wasn't making a quote from her life. Even blind pigs often find an acorn. Crazy or not the quote states a t***h.

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Dec 25, 2013 22:07:02   #
carolyn
 
Armageddun wrote:
The Audacity of Indifference

Phony scandals… It’s the sound bite of the summer. It’s even bigger than the “you didn’t build that” disgrace.

And you know what? It should be.

In fact, it has to be. These “phony scandals” not only represent a thorough shredding of America’s Constitution, they also ripped the lives of four sons away from their inconsolable mothers.

Downplaying their significance and writing them off as “political jockeying” is beyond disrespectful – it’s repulsive.

And responsible reporters everywhere are jumping all over the President’s remarks. It’s why you heard Floyd mention it yesterday.

In his column, he pointed out why the DOJ and Eric Holder scandal is anything but phony.

Now it’s my turn.

And I’m going to show you just how real the B******i scandal is…

Lost in T***sition

Since each scandal broke, specific committees have headed up individualized investigations. B******i is no different.

But recent reports indicate a serious problem for the investigation efforts going forward… No one can seem to find any of the B******i survivors!

In an interview overshadowed by CIA reports (I’ll get to that in a minute), Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) detailed how congressional investigators, along with American citizens, can’t access B******i survivors for interviews and questioning.

The reason?

The Obama administration has ordered all survivors to change their names and live under alias identities.

Not only are they forced into taking on new personas, but they’re also getting shipped off to various locations around the world.

Now think about that for a second…

The people closest to the consulate during the terrorist attacks have been forcefully removed from the public arena. These are the folks with first-hand knowledge of every intimate detail of what t***spired that fateful September night – lost in an assertive identity t***sition.

If Obama and his camp have nothing to hide, then their actions certainly indicate otherwise. Especially with this latest bombshell…

CIA: Cover-up In Action

There’s a massive cover-up going down with B******i. You and I knew that a long time ago…

But now it’s becoming blatantly obvious to even the most liberal media outlets. So obvious in fact, they can no longer rollover and play dead for Obama on this one.

You see, it’s been revealed that on the night of September 11, 2012, there were dozens of CIA operatives in B******i. The exact number is unofficial, but it’s rumored to have been 35 American officials on the ground during the attack on the U.S. Embassy – 21 who were reported to be located in a building close by, known as “The Annex.”

In an exclusive, anonymous interview obtained by CNN, an inside source revealed that the CIA is under immense pressure and scrutiny from Obama officials. So much so that they’re required to run monthly polygraph tests on the CIA operatives in B******i that night. Tests that are typically run once every three to four years…

The operatives are being subjected to testing in an effort to reveal whether they’ve leaked information to congressional investigators or the press.

Worse yet, the informant made clear that, “you don’t just jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well.”

This means that not only have survivors been hidden from the public with alias identities, but also that CIA operatives, along with their families, are being threatened to keep their mouths shut… all because of a “phony scandal.”

Keep in mind, this is an administration that refuses American citizens the right to privacy…

This is an administration that guaranteed it’d be the most t***sparent in United States history…

The only benchmark this administration has set in American history is how to be the most brute and thuggish as a means to assert its dominance.

But that doesn’t mean we have to stand by helplessly.

As the details unfold, it’s important you keep a fire lit under every member of Obama’s gang. Let them know you demand answers. Pass this message along to everyone you know… Follow us on our Facebook page and share every t***h we reveal… and most importantly, don’t forget to sign our petition that calls on Congress to immediately initiate the impeachment process on one of the most corrupt administrations our nation has ever known.

Your eyes on the Hill,

b******i

Martin Biancuzzo



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The Audacity of Indifference br br Phony scandals... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: They absolutely all know this. They simply lie and make up "facts" that are non-existent and have no investigative trail for them to use as proof. They would rather lie like their quack mentor, Barack Hussein Obama does so often. And, just as their mentor does, they never seem to mind getting caught up in their BS, they merely go on to another thread that they can lie about. They know that some will believe them because liberals are as liberals do.

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Dec 25, 2013 22:12:18   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
carolyn wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: They absolutely all know this. They simply lie and make up "facts" that are non-existent and have no investigative trail for them to use as proof. They would rather lie like their quack mentor, Barack Hussein Obama does so often. And, just as their mentor does, they never seem to mind getting caught up in their BS, they merely go on to another thread that they can lie about. They know that some will believe them because liberals are as liberals do.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)


What a world, What a world.

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Dec 26, 2013 01:47:48   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Armageddun wrote:
What a world, What a world.


Oh what company you keep in your world. I'm so glad we live in a middle-class decent family neighborhood here in Green Bay.

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Dec 26, 2013 09:23:07   #
carolyn
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Oh what company you keep in your world. I'm so glad we live in a middle-class decent family neighborhood here in Green Bay.


Are you Jon Hatfield Sr. or Jr.

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Dec 26, 2013 12:38:09   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Oh what company you keep in your world. I'm so glad we live in a middle-class decent family neighborhood here in Green Bay.


Have you taken you sock cap off, or perhaps when shoveling snow your brain got frost bite or frozen Sorry couldn't resist.

:lol:

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Dec 26, 2013 12:39:18   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
carolyn wrote:
Are you Jon Hatfield Sr. or Jr.


Neither. He's Ward Cleaver.

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Dec 26, 2013 12:48:30   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Armageddun wrote:
Have you taken you sock cap off, or perhaps when shoveling snow your brain got frost bite or frozen Sorry couldn't resist.

:lol:


I'm assuming that is a knock on the lovely weather in Green
Bay, Wisconsin? Must be, :lol:

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Dec 26, 2013 13:07:04   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
slatten49 wrote:
I'm assuming that is a knock on the lovely weather in Green
Bay, Wisconsin? Must be, :lol:


HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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