slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Sir, I would agree, wholeheartedly, with your post, also. I just believe he understood the possible consequences of his actions, before he took them. I suspect, other than regret from losing his job, he is happier, and better off than before. Agreed, the students may have lost.

I do not, necessarily, agree with the actions of the school or administration, but I understand them.

Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona

And I agree with you. :thumbup:

VladimirPee

Do what they do to us. Accuse every pro gay protester of being a closet homosexual.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

That would really suck. :roll:

Liberty Tree

Not only that, but there would not be enough room in the closet for all of them.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I can't find a closet big enough for my wife! :roll: :wink:

Liberty Tree

I would not show her your post two days before Christmas if I were you.

ibKelly

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While marriage, to me only, I feel it is wrong for them to marry... but who am I to tell the Govt what they can or can't do in life. When a pair of men or women who are married, neither can have children on their own. And if they did have a child via adoption... what do you think that child will be like when older. They will be made fun of cause of their parents... some to their faces... others behind their back.

It can warp the mind and physical being of that child to be raised in such an inviornment... they will be an oddity just as you see with a black man and married to a white woman having children.

To me... ONLY.... children do not like being the 'odd man out' -- they will be ridiculed cause of what their parents do which they will have no control over. They will love both parents cause it's all they know and it will hurt them tremendously cause of the parents they have. It could affect them in later life.. dunno. Then the child will wonder when they get in their teens... how did his/her parents come to have a baby, when neither can have one on their own.

If any one will remember this Movie.. can't remember the name of it.. but I believe Lana Turner played in it... she had a maid who was black but her child wanted to be white.. Dang.. guess I've forgotten how that went... But she was ashamed of her Mother and when the Mother died... the guilt she felt when her Mother was living. That was the saddest movie I had watched in a long time.

There was a Mother who my kids knew her two children... a boy and a girl. The Mother divorced her husband and started living with her lesbian lover. Their friends would come visit them from time to time.. and see those two women on the floor hugging and kissing while watching tv.... It affects the kids friends as well as the kids themselves... but they dont say anything... it's the kid's friends who will do the talking by making fun of them later to their other friends.

One day a girl was having a swimming party at her house.. and the lesbians's daughter was invited to come, but all she did was playing around in the pool kissing her lover. So I gathered from this, what they saw at home, their off spring will do the same sometimes, not always.
I dont know anything about lesbians or homosexuals of how they feel or what makes them attracted to the same sex.... only they know I guess or what made them turn in this direction or if they were born this way.. I have no idea.
either way, its the children who will suffer in the long run.

Now.. if the lesbians and gays don't care what the Bible says, who am I to say any differently. It's their life what happens to them after death. We have so much shacking around all over the world. Bed hopping has become the favorite past time with no thoughts of it being wrong according to the Bible. Possibly they're not worried about an after life....

Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona

But, we have gone miles from where we were in the middle of the last century...

WWII codebreaker Alan Turing gets royal pardon for gay conviction

By Belinda Goldsmith

updated 12/23/2013 7:01:31 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Mathematician Alan Turing, who helped Britain win World War Two by cracking N**i Germany's "unbreakable" Enigma code, was granted a rare royal pardon on Tuesday for a criminal conviction for homosexuality that led to his suicide.
Turing's electromechanical machine, a forerunner of modern computers, unraveled the code used by German U-boats in the Atlantic. His work at Bletchley Park, Britain's wartime codebreaking centre, was credited with shortening the war.
However, he was stripped of his job and chemically castrated with injections of female hormones after being convicted of gross indecency in 1952 for having sex with a man. Homosexual sex was illegal in Britain until 1967.
Turing k**led himself in 1954, aged 41, with cyanide.
Justice Minister Chris Grayling said the pardon from Queen Elizabeth would come into effect immediately and was a fitting tribute to "an exceptional man with a brilliant mind".
"His brilliance was put into practice at Bletchley Park during the Second World War where he was pivotal to breaking the 'Enigma' code, helping to end the war and save thousands of lives," Grayling said in a statement.
"His later life was overshadowed by his conviction for homosexual activity, a sentence we would now consider unjust and discriminatory and which has now been repealed," he said.
Only four royal pardons had been granted since the end of World War Two, a spokeswoman for Grayling said.
Cosmologist Stephen Hawking and 10 other eminent scientists had campaigned for years for "one of the most brilliant mathematicians of the modern era" to be pardoned.
One of those scientists, Paul Nurse, President of the Royal Society, said, "The persecution of this great British scientist over his sexuality was tragic and I'm delighted that we can now focus solely on celebrating his legacy."
In 2009, then Prime Minister Gordon Brown publicly apologized on behalf of the government for "the appalling way" Turing was treated but campaigners called for a full pardon.
In May 2012, a private member's bill was put before the House of Lords in the British parliament to grant Turing a statutory pardon and in July it gained government support.
Cameron on Tuesday described Turing as "a remarkable man who played a key role in saving this country in World War Two".
"His action saved countless lives. He also left a remarkable national legacy through his substantial scientific achievements, often being referred to as the father of modern computing," Cameron said in a statement.
The work at Bletchley Park, a secluded country house north of London, only became public knowledge in the 1970s when its role in the war and that played by Turing was revealed.
The cryptographers who worked there are credited with helping to shorten World War Two by up to two years and they deciphered around 3,000 German military messages a day.
Turing's team cracked the Enigma code, which the Germans regarded as unbreakable, as well as designing and developing Colossus, one of the first programmable computers.
But after the war, Prime Minister Winston Churchill ordered the Colossus computers and 200 "Turing bombe" machines be destroyed to keep them secret from the Soviet Union.
(Editing by Louise Ireland)

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Just what Dennis would do. Why not accuse every one of them of being a closet c****e homosexual for good measure, Dennis?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

ibKelly, that movie was "Imitation of Life", and also starred a very young Natalie Wood. Miss Woods was ashamed of being black, while looking white...thus, shunned her mother.

At least, that's my memory of it.

ibKelly

You're probably right, but I feel I'm much older than you and Natalie Wood was too young to have played in this movie... It was durin the Time of Lana Turner... she was a rich lady and had a daughter the same age as the black lady who was her maid and the maid's black girl was the same age of Turner's daughter.. if Im making sense... This movie as I remember was in black and white... but it was the saddest movie esepcially at the end.. cause the black daughter more or less hurt her mother's feelings cause she was black when she wanted to be white..

You know... I would imagine this is more common than one would think. I feel so sorry for the b****s in this regards, not in other aspects though... but who wants to be super black, huge lips.. no eyebrows, broad noses, big eyes, but mostly super kindy hair... and of course black skin. I dont know why God made them the way they are... In this respect I have much compassion for them. It's their ways that I disagree with.. but who knows, if I were like they are I would probably think and be the same way too... We never know the sorrows inflicted on others unless we have walked in their shoes... and I feel strongly this is what fuels their rage toward the w****s... I dont feel it's cause of the plantation days... they were not living during that time... but the color of their skin and other features IS carried over to this day and time. So that's why I feel this is what makes them the way they are... fuming with jealous (which I would be the same way too... so I'm imagine it's very had to over come. Now if you're a light skinned black with beautiful features ... and which most of those beautiful features had to have come from some white being in their background.. fortune that they were to have had this happen to them. It's truly sad, cause I know they h**e being the way they were born...

Ok.. Duck Duck found it for me...[[ Imitation of Life...there are two verison, 1934 and 1959 the plot the same the story line was change. in both story the child was fair skin and she could past for white those she black. Her father also was fair skin but he as black, taken a guess at this, even one of his parent or grandparent was white.]]

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Mrs. Kelly,

I was speaking of the 1959 version, and was not aware of the original (I presume), 1934 movie. Lana Turner was in her heyday during the 50's, and the scandal that hit her soon afterwards, led to the decline in her career. I correct myself, regarding Natalie Woods. The role of Sarah Jane was played by Susan Kohner. She bore a remarkable resemblance to Miss Woods, who, by that time, had already been in "Rebel Without A Cause", and was soon to star in "Splendor in The Grass", and "West Side Story".

BTW, I am soon to be 65, and a movie buff, of sorts!

Your second paragraph speaks to your age, and mindset.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a peaceful and joyful New Year.

ibKelly

[quoteI was speaking of the 1959 version, and was not aware of the original (I presume), 1934 movie. Lana Turner was in her heyday during the 50's, and the scandal that hit her soon afterwards, led to the decline in her career. I correct myself, regarding Natalie Woods. The role of Sarah Jane was played by Susan Kohner. She bore a remarkable resemblance to Miss Woods, who, by that time, had already been in "Rebel Without A Cause", and was soon to star in "Splendor in The Grass", and "West Side Story".

BTW, I am soon to be 65, and a movie buff, of sorts!

Your second paragraph speaks to your age, and mindset.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a peaceful and joyful New Year.[/quote]



I am probably the one wrong here... All I remember the movie was Lana Turner and who ever else played in it with her. I dont remember how old I was. We we too poor for me to have gone to the movie back then and no one had television. So I must have been in my later early 20's .. not sure... and I dont remember if the movie was black and white or like you said in color. I never went to movies much in my life anyway... Don't think I ever went to one till I was in my 20's...

When tv first came here in this city.. it was all black and white that might have been cause I thought the movie was in black and white... I never saw a tv but one time in my life and that was when I lived at this lady's house and they bought one.. but even then.. I never watched it.. I just knew she had bought one. Didn't even know what a tv was till she showed it to me... Man alive.. am telling my age now..
But that was the saddest movie I had ever watched... I felt so sorry for that black girl but mostly felt sorry for her Mother cause she couldn't help how she was..

ibKelly