Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Long before O's first e******n, some of us were warning people about him, about his henchmen, about his philosophy. Most didn't listen. Now I am warning people about the possibility of never having another e******n. IF I am right this time, then how do we accomplish the goals with an e******n which during the best of times is corrupt, and this is NOT the best of times? If Barry decides to stay in office, he will, and NO ONE will kick him out. If there were guts to do that, it would have been done a long time ago. Once he commits THAT breech of the Constitution, it is DEAD, and we live under tyranny.

jay-are

My money is still on that prediction coming true. I made the same prediction in September of 2008.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I would not take bets on President Obama trying to extend his time in office, beyond constitutionally-stated limits. That would a mistake of monstrous proportions, and, as such...I don't see that happening.

As it is, there are those who would attempt to end his current term, early.

We shall see.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

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jay-are

If you are so sure he won't stay in office, why won't you take bets? If you won't take bets, it means you aren't sure you are right. I still believe I am right, that he will not leave, and will keep believing it until I am proven wrong.

jay-are

A mistake of monstrous proportions? What do you call Obamacare? He did that didn't he? Wasn't that completed by means beyond constitutional limits?

There are hundreds of examples of Obama going beyond constitutionally-stated limits.

stymie

I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time but I just do not see that happening. The question is would the left support his actions of attempting to remain in control. As much as they love him I would hope their love of country would override their inability to see what he is really doing to this great Republic. We know the right will rise up against it, that would be the proverbial last straw. I strongly believe the military will back the Republic and not the President and therein is where he loses control should he attempt such extremes. We are seeing a reversal in attitude toward the President now for the first time due to the ACA (Obamacare) debacle and it may very well be his undoing. The reason simply being unlike all the other so-called scandals is that this one effects the individual. Amazing how clarity finally shines through when one is directly affected. Bottom line is the 2014 e******n outcome will determine whether Harry Reid stays at the reigns or we have the option of actually accomplishing Hope and Change for the future. Hope we can change the direction he and the President has us on.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I'm not arguing because we have differing opinions. Am merely asking you why you believe he would not go beyond THAT constitutionally-stated limits, when he has gone well beyond others, some of which have as much (almost) serious consequences as would setting himself up as dictator. Obamacare, Fast and Furious, B******i, obeying the parts of any law while disobeying what he doesn't like, pathological lying without seeming to be remorseful when found out, etc. What have you observed in his character that I have missed that says that once his term is up, he becomes just another former President? I don't think this is his rodeo. He seems to have a handler who has some big money and some strong desire for total control, and it seems to me his handler is working for some definite purpose(s), and is not about to be denied. If he needs Obama as front man for another decade, so be it. I hope, sincerely hope that I am wrong as can be. Time shall tell. By that time we will probably be unable to communicate.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

We simply disagree. As you state, "time will tell".

jay-are

Tasine wrote: Obamacare, Fast and Furious, B******i, obeying the parts of any law while disobeying what he doesn't like, pathological lying without seeming to be remorseful when found out, etc.
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You don't agree that these actions are in total disregard of the Constitution?

bluejacket

well said , when someone deals in absolutes they tend to get bogged down in paradox's as their logic is extended , when dealing with human beings absolutes do not fit well

oldladyfromwaco

LOL....jay-are....isn't it nice that we agree on something! The v**ers CAN fix it, but the "machines' pick and choose the candidates, those who will toady to their wishes....do exactly what they want.
So.....an outlet for your energy and drive and to change the situation of which you write is to get involved at the highest level in your county and state politics and express your opinion. Get your friends, family, in-laws, out-laws, and the neighbors involved. Take the family dog!
jay-are......when I used to sit in church as a child, the minister would sometimes say, "We can start a revival right here right now! We can change the world!" Well, no one ever did.....but, politically, like the lady who began the TP, one person at a time.....reaching out to another who reaches out to another.....can take our country back. LOL It's almost like the ad on TV about unneutered cats....one in a year could possibly compound to something like 187,000 cats. Now, young man, that's a LOT of cats=v**es.
So, get with it, kid....do this country some GOOD!

A few minutes later, jay-are.....you could go to Black Listed News...BLN....and read some interesting articles...particularly on about "If you can't be on Rothkeaph's(sp) list.....written by someone who knows what is truly going on.

Brian Devon

You are indeed paranoid. President Obama and Michele are already considering the right place to raise their daughters after they leave the White House. The only exception to the two term rule will remain FDR. He governed during exceptional times, WWII, which required political acomodations by all. We do have a 22nd amendment which will be honored. You might want to save your worry for things that might really happen. The main people who drum up fear on this issue are right wing politicos and radio personalities. Why? Fear sells...especially when you are selling books and charging huge speaker fees. Unless you have a book deal or speaking schedule you might want to dispense with the fear-mongering.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

That is what keeps, and has kept, the Democrats in office.

boofhead

The risk here is that you impune common sense to Democrats, who have not shown any tendency toward that state of mind for a long time.

I vacillate between accusing all Democrats (and Liberals and Progressives) of being Evil, and also trying to give them some benefit of the doubt by accusing them instead of blindly following Democrat ideals and policies. In the second case they might not be evil themselves, but merely dupes and fools with perhaps good intentions.

Wh**ever the true state of mind, it matters not. The democrat ideals are as close to truly evil as we have seen this century. They will lead to the same destructive outcomes that we saw so often in the last century, with millions dead around the world.

History shows us that the despots start slow and work up to what they truly want, which is domination and control. Obamacare is an egregious example, but taking down a cross from a monument to the fallen or expelling a student for biting his PopTart into the shape of a gun are those incremental steps needed to push the agenda. We become accustomed to the little nudges and don't realise how far down the path to our own loss of liberty we have come until it is too late.