Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Owner was nabbed somewhere outside. They had him cuffed and locked in a car before they even kicked the door in. Seems the dogs were toast before the cops even busted the door down.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Yes, I read your subsequent post...

They should have asked for the dogs to be put up before proceeding....

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Who should have asked? The cops or the owners?

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The cops should have the owner or the owner could have said let me put my dogs away ...

GRB777

There are no bad dog breeds, but there are plenty of sick h**eful people. People like this demented coward of a cop will get what's coming to him in like manner. No one gets away with anything in the end.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

I can't speak for what happened in this case. As for myself, if I were in that position, I'd have made every attempt to safeguard my dogs before they kicked the door in. Be kind of hard to do while handcuffed and locked in the back of a cop car though...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Nor can I as we only have the documents say...

Unfortunately those dogs are known to be vicious and for horrific damage when they attack...any person is going to be on guard to their presence and of course aggressiveness...Truly terrible how it was handled..

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Not so, Linda! Just like any other dog, they're as vicious as they're taught to be. They're excellent pets when properly treated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDjcE50oPY

I have personally been around many of the 'bull terrier' breeds and can honestly say that pitbulls are no better or worse than any other. My father bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers as show dogs. Won a bagful of prizes. I remember this one in particular (not my Dad's) that was very skittish around people and would attack another dog on sight. Turns out his previous owner trained and used him in dog fights before my friend 'rescued' him. All of the others were the same as any other dog. Mostly stronger and tougher but all had similar temperaments.

They do have an amazing bite pressure and can inflict severe damage if they should attack. That's just another good reason to keep one around the house if a good guard dog is in order.

I have an English friend who owns a public house (bar, in American parlance). He lives above and lets his dog roam around downstairs when it's closed. He woke up one night to the sounds of a loud yell and a window being smashed. He goes downstairs to find the dog on a bench seat barking out of a broken window and blood splatters across the floor. He called the police who came, took statements, etc. and started their investigation.

A few hours later, the dog gets nauseous and spits up a fairly large chunk of meat. My friend called the cops again and they picked up this chunk of meat for analysis. Turns out it was our burglar's calf muscle. The dog had ripped this guy's leg apart and swallowed the muscle! Cops picked him up at a local hospital. Poor guy, loses a leg and still goes to prison.

The dog, by the way, was a Great Dane. (Gotcha! I know what you were thinking!) I never looked at him the same way after that. Personally, I prefer the Rottweiler. Now there's a dog!

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

I perfer German Shepherds they have a stronger bite than pit bulls. Or Doberman Pinchers but that is just me.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Ouch! My gut said that you could not be right, so I did a little checking. After exhaustive research (actually just a quick Google search), the results are in:

Pit Bull

"The Pitbull has become a breed synonymous with strong jaws, biting and danger. While this dog does not have the highest bite force of the dogs National Geographic tested, it is one of the top four. The Pitbull bite was measured at 235 pounds of pressure. It is the most highly recognized breed for jaw and bite strength."

German Shepherd

"Although the German Shepherd was originally bred as a herding dog, it has been used as a guard and police dog with good reason. This is a powerful and intelligent breed. The German Shepherd's bite measured 238 bite force, just slightly above the Pitbull."

http://dogs.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Which_Dog_Breed_Has_the_Strongest_Jaw

Had I been asked, off the top of my head, which was stronger, I would not have gone with the German Shepherd. It's true after all. We learn something new every day.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Well Larry I don't believe any one would be able to argue the point that they are equally strong biters. I perfer not to get bit by either.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Yeah, like a choice between a 9mm and a .45, my choice - Neither.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Exactly Merry Christmas Larry.

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

[quote=Larry the Legend]"In the case of the Browns' two pit bulls, the imminent threat came from the dogs barking and moving around."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/court-police-can-shoot-dog-if-it-moves-or-barks-when-cop-enters-home/article/2610097

"One officer shot the first pit bull after he said it "had only moved a few inches"... The injured dog retreated to the basement, where the officer shot and k**led it as well as the second dog while conducting a sweep of the residence.".

"Officer Case saw that 'there was blood coming out of numerous holes in the [second] dog, and ... [he] didn't want to see it suffer,' so he put her out of her misery and fired the last shot".

I can just imagine the conversation when they get home:

"Hi Honey, how was your day"?

"Oh, not too bad. We busted into this house and k**led their dogs just for the fun of it. They weren't really doing anything out of the ordinary but the owners were really, really pissed!"

"That's nice, Dear."

"I tried to act all 'traumatized', you know, get some paid time off, but it didn't work".

"Never mind Dear, maybe next time."

And then after the court case:

"I had to testify in court today. Remember the two dogs we shot a few months ago?"

"Not really, there's been so many..."

"Anyway, the judge said we were justified because the dogs moved, that meant that they were a threat."

"That's nice Dear. Looks like dog-icide is getting easier every day."

"Yep. Oh, and my promotion just came through this afternoon. The boss loves the way I 'take charge' of the situation."

Here's an interesting question; how do you train a guard dog, that you own specifically because he barks and acts all intimidating to strangers, how do you train him to sit still and not bark when there's a gang of strangers rifling through your house? Remember now, his life depends on it...[
-------well they should not break the law to begin with then there would not need to search there house !!!!!------- if they had no reason to search the house the cops have no reason to be there !!!!!!!!! but if the cops make a mistake they should get in trouble which they dont anyway

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!