Ve'hoe

We are repeating it,,,,already

jay-are

Well, you are making it hard for me to tell whether you are with me wanting to stop the c*******t takeover, or whether you are willing to allow history to repeat itself.

We are not going to stop it by appeasing the moderates and liberals. History has proven that doesn't work.

Liberty Tree

Preach it, brother!

Ve'hoe

I am afraid of what you say is true,,,,, but my record shows that guns and shooting doesn't scare me,,,,, I will be right there,,, but we need to fight smartly,,,,

My family is indian Cheyennes,,,,I studied their wars intensely,,, WHY they lost, was the inability to control the young mens actions,,, and no overall strategy,,,

We cannot make that mistake here, or again,,,,because whom we will be fighting have zero respect for life,,, zero... and if they can fight your family they will,, but then again, so did Sherman and Grant,,, and Lincoln authorized the k*****g of civilians to stop the southern combat troops,,, it will come again,,,, the minute you actually propose or appear as a threat...

jay-are

Are you listening to Rush Limbaugh today. He is making a great argument on this very subject. Whether we should compromise, or stand up for what we want. Another scientific study to gather a scientific answer to which is the better approach.

I agree with being organized and in control, but organized and in control to win, not controlling in the sense of restraining everybody from standing up for what is right. Organizing should be oriented toward winning the fight, not avoiding a fight.

Ve'hoe

In all my time through company grade ranks,,,, I thought like you thought,,, then I got into the field grade ranks,,,, and saw that command and staff are damn sure important,,, and then global strategy is above it as well,,,,overriding all is the budget,,,logistics etc,,,
Not a single part can be missing in this battle,,, and I want a complete win too,,, but how do you actually execute this battle of yours? To what strategy and what goal,,,total victory or death??? The reasons the left have beaten us, is they will take any victory no matter how small, and build on it,,,

I will fight the best I can,, and I agree with you, it is an uphill fight and very corrupt bunch we will be battling,,, but like you I realize and agree that c*******ts do not willingly relinquish power,,, if you have not read Mao's red book you should,, (I know it isn't fun) but it describes what is going on right now, and how an open conf**gration plays right into their hands,,, hard to swallow, I know,,, but that organization is critical.

What you can do right now, is join the VFW or AMVETS Marine Corps League,,etc,,, that we have, as the younger vets since korea,,, gotten away from,,, and become a v****g power,, that will seem like buying power, cause it is,,, but the open war, is a mistake at this point,,, though we may not avoid it, in the end, I don't relish the idea of running into it, nor painting a target on my back,,, because the people you are going to fight, will k**l you and your families,,,and the amount of enemies you will make, will only bolster support for those currently in power,,, be smart,,, but like you I don't see any other way out realistically... I think in the end it will be war..

carolyn

The RNC had better think strongly about getting rid of Karl Rove while they still are a party. More and more people are sick and tired of this fat toad playing ball with the Liberals. I know that that is the reason my husband and I started backing the Tea Party with as money as we can spare and are also campaigning for membership for this constitutional and conservative group. When Karl Rove dropped Ron Paul as he did, we made up our minds that we were finished with the Karl Rove Republicans for good.

Ve'hoe

Same here,,,, my point is,,, whom ever they h**e,,,is who I want,,, I don't want them to get their buddies together up there,, I want them hating each other,,,

Ve'hoe

Jay-are,,,, check your private messages from me

carolyn

You are so right when you say that appeasing the liberals has never accomplished a thing but convince them that conservatives are a bunch of cowards that can be pushed around as they see fit. Did the cave-in on the government shutdown not show these i***t Republicans a thing? After the cowards chicken-s**tted out, the Democrats crowed like the cocks-of-the-henhouse they are, yet the cowards handed them another win without so much as a blink of an eye. When they had a real chance to defund the Obamacare that the majority of Americans did not ever want, they sold the American people out by v****g to open up the government again. Now that is either showing their cowardice, or that they are actually RINO"S and should be v**ed out as such next year.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

I couldn't agree with you more. There are far to many people that just don't care as long as their man or woman is handing out money to them. The parasites of this country need to have the v**e taken away from them.

As for starting a war, I don't believe we will need to start it, Obama is doing just fine without our help and in the end, I think he will start it. I really think he believes he can win at that. No matter who wins, we all loose and that is one thing that is certain. I would not put it past him to use the nukes against anyone that he feels is against him. I wouldn't put anything past him, since he will really be desperate to stay in power and those along with him.

Instead of starting a civil war, I am all for marching into DC and start arresting people. At least then you could get to the people that are causing all the problems instead of getting a bunch of people k**led that simply happen to get in the way.

"In Federalist No. 78 (10th para), Hamilton says:

…every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."

http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/resistance-to-tyranny/ Go down to the part about Nullifying unjust laws and you can read the whole thing.

If people would learn this one thing, we would be a better nation. The most important thing to know is, if we elect state representatives and governors that follow the constitution, then we would not have half the problems we have now. To get rid of the other half, we need to get rid of the 17th amendment. If the states would back the people by nullifying the unconstitutional laws, we could stop a lot of the take over. If we made the federal and state governments control their actions by using the constitution, we could stop all of our problems. Poor S.C. is the only state that has nullified Obama care and refused to set up state run exchanges. We need 49 other states to do the same thing and that will stop Obama care in it's tracks.

vernon

10% flat tax and they have to live on it