son of witless

archie bunker Loc: Texas

I see no problem with this. I would try one. It seems to be a good way to use unwanted, or aging horses.
Hell, we eat everything else!

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Horse meat is very lean and tastes somewhat like venison. considering how many wild horses (supposedly fifty thousand ) are ruining the plains and wild life refuges k*****g them for food would be great. As I understand it, it is illegal to use horse meat for pet food, even though it is one of the best foods for your dog. Too bad isn't it?

archie bunker Loc: Texas

I'm not sure about all of the legal stuff. They outlawed slaughtering horses for food here years ago. Most, if not all of it went overseas is my understanding.

I remember my Granny telling me about buying horse meat for dog food during WW2. I don't understand why people think it's bad to eat them. I don't!

I've had this argument with Mrs. B. while she was mowing down a prime rib! Did you ever see a baby calf? They're cute!! A lot of people eat them too!!

Rabbits are to cute to eat even though we are overrun with them! I was going to make her some rabbit fur undies.....but they're CUTE!

pafret Loc: Northeast

Back in the sixties I worked for Philco Corp. in Willow Grove Pa, a city about 4 miles north of Philadelphia. On Fridays we would go out for lunch and the favorite was a Philly Steak Sandwich. There were many sandwich joints selling these steak sandwiches but out of the lot of them I preferred the steaks from Luigi's. These steaks were delicious, absolutely superior to any other restaurant's steak sandwiches in the area. They were so good that sometimes at ten or eleven at night I could hear them calling me and I would have to go out and get one at one of Luigi's three stores in the area.

One Friday a friend and I hustled over to the Luigi's in the center of Willow Grove across from the amusement park and cut into the parking lot. I looked around and there were very few cars in the lot and I thought "Good, we beat the lunch crowd". We walked up to the door and found our entrance barred by a very hard looking, stone faced man with a badge on his belt, who growled "Closed". "What do you mean closed, it's noon on Friday?" He stepped aside and there was a notification from the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture on the door, with words to the effect that this business was in violation of some code or other and was out of business.

"Why are they closed down I asked the agent?" "They were selling horsemeat instead of steak", he responded..

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

And it was better for you,lower cholesterol and fewer calories. But then, in much of the world you could eat dog meat and it would be acceptable. Here dogs are not food animals and I would shoot anyone who tried to k**l any of our dogs. However in areas where it is acceptable, humanely k*****g the strays rather than having them starve to death may be all right.
Wonder if the restaurants are still in Willow Grove. Sometimes we go to watch the dog shows at Montgomery County, out side of Philadelphia, and stay in Willow Grove, could look them up if we go there next year.

When we lived in the Chicago area there was a really great Chinese restaurant that we used to go to, before they closed the place down because they had a freezer full of cats, ready for the wok.

pafret Loc: Northeast

I lived in Horsham Township, about a mile above Willow Grove Center and just below the Willow Grove Naval Air Station which is now closed. -- Three blocks off US 611. There were a lot of Sandwich shops there in 1977, when I left, but I never returned to the area until 2004 for a funeral. Everything had changed, where there was forest and open meadows there were houses, industrial parks, condos and high rises plus 80 thousand more residents. Roughly twenty five years and all of the planned development had come to pass in one massive building surge. It must have been hell living there.

Your best bet is to ask wherever you are staying where the best Philly Steak Sandwich can be had in the area. Everyone eats them and they will know.

There are two camps on how to make the sandwich stemming from the rivalry between Gino's and Pat's, in Philadelphia, where the sandwich was invented. One way is to place the thinly sliced steaks on the grill and fry them flat. The end result resembles Steakums, the presliced mystery meat composite sold in supermarkets.

The other method uses spatulas to break-up and stir the meat slices into half inch to one inch pieces, constantly agitating the meat on the grill. The meat is scraped into a rectangle shape and if you are getting cheese, it is placed on top. A split hoagy role (Sub roll for some) of appropriate size (Small, medium & large) is opened and placed over the cheese and meat and the grilling continues for another minute or two until the cheese is melted and the roll is warm. Then the spatula is slid underneath the meat and cheese and dexterously flipped over so that the roll is filled with cheese on the bottom and the shards of steak fill the roll almost to the brim. Toppings are applied, sweet carmelized onions, fried peppers, hot vinegar cherry pepper slices and a tomato based sauce, which is necessary because the leanness of the meat makes it dry swallowing otherwise. The miracle is that the full roll expands to hold these additions. The toppings and the fluffy meats intermingle to make each bite ambrosia.

You can tell from the description which of the two I prefer. I never bought a Cheese Steak because most cheeses swamp out all the other flavors for me. The cheese is also a matter of contention, Pat used Cheese Whiz. I could never bring myself to eat anything with a name like "Whiz" that was extruded from an aerosol can. Some stake their claims for best taste on Provolone cheese and some on Cheddar slices or W***e A******n. I have never heard of anyone using Swiss Emmenthaler.

I think I'm going to drive down to Pennsylvania today -- I can hear a Steak Sandwich calling me, it is lonely, and I have to go comfort it -- one more time. I wonder if there are horses there.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

We have a lifetime friend who breeds and shows Welsh Terriers and is the one from whom we purchased our Welsh Terrier "Chaos". The large terrier show with around 2000 terriers is in Montgomery county, and several times we have gone along with her to help her show the dogs There are obedience trials with the all breed shows and our Cane corsos have been exhibited in obedience there. Breakfast across from the Naval Air Station was a tradition, so I know the area well, and yes, love the Philly Steak sandwiches that you describe as the correct ones.It has been a few years since we went there, this year it was the same time as my double by-pass (the dog show would have been much more fun) Maybe we will plan on the dog shows next year, and take Chaos to obedience and barn hunt. Generally speaking, we prefer dog people to most other people.

jer48 Loc: perris ca

if my memory serves me right back when Bill brought all the Vietnam refuges back to Arkansas the Vietnamese were at the humane shelters buying up all the dogs to eat and the courts claimed it was ok it was their life style I know they ate monkey in the Philippines you would be surprised what you will eat when hungry

pafret Loc: Northeast

You bring back memories, I have eaten in that restaurant across from the Air Base many times. I lived about a half mile from there and my kids attended the Horsham Elementary school at the bottom of the base. We had annual air shows at that base with appearances of the Blue Angels precision flying teams. Quite a show! Where in Montgomery county are the dog shows held?

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Last year they were at the Montgomery County Community College in Blue Bell, but they are talking about moving it in 2018.

pafret Loc: Northeast

More memories, I worked in Blue Bell at the Ford Aerospace Division for two years.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

If you want to see an all terrier show go to the AKC web and look at dog shows for the first full week in October. Probably our friend will be showing Welsh terriers. Her name is Diane

son of witless

I never knowingly ate horse meat. I would not have a problem with it as long as I knew what it was. In 2013 the EU had a big scandal because testing revealed horse meat in what was supposed to be 100 % beef. An interesting side note is that the EU has banned American beef because of synthetic hormones in the American product. Funny how Europeans don't want hormones yet it was easy to feed them horse meat.

The big deal about all of this is that if horse meat can find it's way into the meat supply illegally, what else is in Europe's burgers? Maybe pork in meat sold to Jews and Muslims who do not eat pork. What if they put beef into my little pony burger?

archie bunker Loc: Texas

I never understood the issue with horse meat. Look at all of the other stuff we eat! Some people will eat Sushi, which is not food at all. It's bait. Some people eat fish eggs that taste like a salted catfish. The list goes on, and on. I like rattlesnake, and the testicles from a bull calf myself. But, hey! It ain't for everybody!!

We have an over abundance of cottontail rabbits here, and my wife is going to learn to eat them this winter!
It's not hard to get over the cute when it tastes good!!