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Dec 9, 2013 12:53:45   #
rumitoid
 
Congress sticks it to the poor every which way they can, literally taking the food out of the mouths of babies and disabled seniors. See link below for the gruesome details. (Of course, some here will be just tickled about this.)


http://news.yahoo.com/stick-poor-congressional-strategy-080500785.html

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Dec 9, 2013 13:17:53   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
Congress sticks it to the poor every which way they can, literally taking the food out of the mouths of babies and disabled seniors. See link below for the gruesome details. (Of course, some here will be just tickled about this.)


http://news.yahoo.com/stick-poor-congressional-strategy-080500785.html



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Dec 9, 2013 13:55:44   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
rumitoid wrote:
Congress sticks it to the poor every which way they can, literally taking the food out of the mouths of babies and disabled seniors. See link below for the gruesome details. (Of course, some here will be just tickled about this.)


http://news.yahoo.com/stick-poor-congressional-strategy-080500785.html


I do enjoy one calling themselves non-partisan while loving the most partisan folks disguised as journalists.

It is possible for one to love the poor while decrying the government's efforts at creating even more - and to love the poor while recognizing the role the government plays in creating and sustaining poverty.

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Dec 9, 2013 14:33:38   #
jay-are
 
rumitoid wrote:
Congress sticks it to the poor every which way they can, literally taking the food out of the mouths of babies and disabled seniors. See link below for the gruesome details. (Of course, some here will be just tickled about this.)


http://news.yahoo.com/stick-poor-congressional-strategy-080500785.html


The concept that things are being taken away from the poor is based on the premise that they had the things in the first place. That is a false premise.

The article says people will be kicked out of "their" homes. That is a lie. They don't own the homes. No body is taking anything away from them that belongs to them. People should be motivated to own their own homes in order to avoid being at the mercy of the true owner of the home. Who forced them to take a deal that included rental assistance? Nobody. They chose to rent and to take government assistance. They chose to put themselves at the mercy of the home owners and the government. Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs. This way will not work anymore for some. This is no different than makers of buggy whips having to find new jobs when the automobile began being mass produced. Ford motor company did not take away their houses or food.

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Dec 9, 2013 15:00:35   #
catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California
 
jay-are wrote:
The concept that things are being taken away from the poor is based on the premise that they had the things in the first place. That is a false premise.

The article says people will be kicked out of "their" homes. That is a lie. They don't own the homes. No body is taking anything away from them that belongs to them. People should be motivated to own their own homes in order to avoid being at the mercy of the true owner of the home. Who forced them to take a deal that included rental assistance? Nobody. They chose to rent and to take government assistance. They chose to put themselves at the mercy of the home owners and the government. Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs. This way will not work anymore for some. This is no different than makers of buggy whips having to find new jobs when the automobile began being mass produced. Ford motor company did not take away their houses or food.
The concept that things are being taken away from ... (show quote)


Question is did they accept gov't assistance out of choice or because they didn't have one?
"Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs." But first, let's take what meager means of subsistence they have and make them really suffer. Now, that makes sense.
You want parasite "takers" and "debt drivers" and do-nothings on the gov't tit? Check into the corporate subsidies you tax dollars are paying for. You know, the "job creators" who are going to trickle down on everybody. You may find out you're b***hing at the wrong people. But then, they have lobbyistst with l**t to buy congressmen. Poor people don't.

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Dec 9, 2013 15:08:57   #
jay-are
 
catpaw wrote:
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out of choice or because they didn't have one?
"Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs." But first, let's take what meager means of subsistence they have and make them really suffer. Now, that makes sense.
You want parasite "takers" and "debt drivers" and do-nothings on the gov't tit? Check into the corporate subsidies you tax dollars are paying for. You know, the "job creators" who are going to trickle down on everybody. You may find out you're b***hing at the wrong people. But then, they have lobbyistst with l**t to buy congressmen. Poor people don't.
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out o... (show quote)


If the government was doing any good the poor would become not poor as a result of the government's actions.

Which poor who are on government assistance are getting rich? I can't name any.

And which poor who are entering the free market and producing something for a profit are getting rich? I can think of plenty, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Barak Obama, the facebook guy, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, the Amway inventors, the Herbalife people working from their kitchen table, etc. etc.

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Dec 9, 2013 16:09:27   #
catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California
 
jay-are wrote:
If the government was doing any good the poor would become not poor as a result of the government's actions.

Which poor who are on government assistance are getting rich? I can't name any.

And which poor who are entering the free market and producing something for a profit are getting rich? I can think of plenty, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Barak Obama, the facebook guy, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, the Amway inventors, the Herbalife people working from their kitchen table, etc. etc.
If the government was doing any good the poor woul... (show quote)


Well, "the government" did propose a jobs bill that got v**ed down; and a construction bill for infrastructure that would have meant jobs and that got v**ed down.

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Dec 9, 2013 16:13:27   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jay-are wrote:
The concept that things are being taken away from the poor is based on the premise that they had the things in the first place. That is a false premise.

The article says people will be kicked out of "their" homes. That is a lie. They don't own the homes. No body is taking anything away from them that belongs to them. People should be motivated to own their own homes in order to avoid being at the mercy of the true owner of the home. Who forced them to take a deal that included rental assistance? Nobody. They chose to rent and to take government assistance. They chose to put themselves at the mercy of the home owners and the government. Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs. This way will not work anymore for some. This is no different than makers of buggy whips having to find new jobs when the automobile began being mass produced. Ford motor company did not take away their houses or food.
The concept that things are being taken away from ... (show quote)


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Dec 9, 2013 16:15:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
catpaw wrote:
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out of choice or because they didn't have one?
"Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs." But first, let's take what meager means of subsistence they have and make them really suffer. Now, that makes sense.
You want parasite "takers" and "debt drivers" and do-nothings on the gov't tit? Check into the corporate subsidies you tax dollars are paying for. You know, the "job creators" who are going to trickle down on everybody. You may find out you're b***hing at the wrong people. But then, they have lobbyistst with l**t to buy congressmen. Poor people don't.
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out o... (show quote)


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Dec 9, 2013 16:15:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
catpaw wrote:
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out of choice or because they didn't have one?
"Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs." But first, let's take what meager means of subsistence they have and make them really suffer. Now, that makes sense.
You want parasite "takers" and "debt drivers" and do-nothings on the gov't tit? Check into the corporate subsidies you tax dollars are paying for. You know, the "job creators" who are going to trickle down on everybody. You may find out you're b***hing at the wrong people. But then, they have lobbyistst with l**t to buy congressmen. Poor people don't.
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out o... (show quote)


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Dec 9, 2013 16:20:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
catpaw wrote:
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out of choice or because they didn't have one?
"Now may be the time to find a better way to meet their needs." But first, let's take what meager means of subsistence they have and make them really suffer. Now, that makes sense.
You want parasite "takers" and "debt drivers" and do-nothings on the gov't tit? Check into the corporate subsidies you tax dollars are paying for. You know, the "job creators" who are going to trickle down on everybody. You may find out you're b***hing at the wrong people. But then, they have lobbyistst with l**t to buy congressmen. Poor people don't.
Question is did they accept gov't assistance out o... (show quote)


I agree tht there should be no corporate subsidies - the federal government needs to get out of the way at several levels - and the only people I hear furthering that idea are the tea party folks.

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Dec 9, 2013 16:22:15   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
catpaw wrote:
Well, "the government" did propose a jobs bill that got v**ed down; and a construction bill for infrastructure that would have meant jobs and that got v**ed down.


Spending money we don't have on the liberal idea of trickle down solves no problems but creates quite a few new ones - not the least of which is much more cronyism - just like the last "shovel ready stimulus" bill did.

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Dec 9, 2013 16:23:17   #
jay-are
 
catpaw wrote:
Well, "the government" did propose a jobs bill that got v**ed down; and a construction bill for infrastructure that would have meant jobs and that got v**ed down.


Would those construction workers get rich? Why would you rather work for the government than a private company? Where is the humiliation in having a real job, where you take responsibility for yourself instead of just being dependent on government for handouts?

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Dec 9, 2013 16:35:51   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
jay-are wrote:
Would those construction workers get rich? Why would you rather work for the government than a private company? Where is the humiliation in having a real job, where you take responsibility for yourself instead of just being dependent on government for handouts?


The States should be taking care of their own. They have gotten used to the Fed doing it.

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Dec 10, 2013 10:08:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Dave wrote:
Spending money we don't have on the liberal idea of trickle down solves no problems but creates quite a few new ones - not the least of which is much more cronyism - just like the last "shovel ready stimulus" bill did.


Trickle down came from the Reaganomics time..Never did work...

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