You have to admit that I slam them both -- not just one -- but both. I will say unequivocally that I have no respect for either one. I also have, as you may have noticed, but you do not acknowledge, stated that Obama is capable of screwing up and I am not overly pleased with his screw-ups. Perhaps you should go back and read some of those posts again. However, we ALL read into things what we want to.

It has not escaped my notice, by the way, that you are being extremely condescending, so that awareness would infer that I have some brain function.

To be perfectly candid, I don't view a lot of FOX Network. Fox is not my cup of tea. That said, have YOU read ALL the fine print of Common Core standards, have you -- for yourself, or are you just depending on what other folks tell you to believe? With the exception of one of my posts that I responded to with regard to Common Core, those posts were side issues. I'm guessing you didn't like my perceptions there either. I made one comment concerning Common Core directly because I read, yes, that makes it my perception, that in some cases the STATES dumbed the standards down. How that says I don't get it somehow escapes me. Do I know exactly what the standards expect the standards to be or do. No, in all candor, I do not. I have not been in a classroom in 7 years and as a substitute teacher, at that. I did go online to take a look for myself, but I found it difficult to actually be able to view anything beyond outline form, which tells you nothing. Show me a link that will allow me to view the ACTUAL standards, and I will read it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know there is something wrong with the schools, but it has been that way FOREVER it would seem, so to blame Common Core Standards and lay it all at Obama's feet is a bunch of...meadow muffins. What I "hear" a lot of people saying is that Obama through CORE Standards is ruining our children, feeding them lies, and morally corrupting them which I find to be rather hard to embrace. If, as you say, the system is corrupting the children, where are the parents? Why are the parents not interacting with their children, paying attention to them, and counteracting what the system wants them to believe, teaching them to think for themselves? Why are the PTA's of this country not screaming at the tops of their lungs at the injustices of the Common Core standards. I still know a lot of teachers. Perhaps, I'll do my own survey of what THEY think. In total t***sparency, I will ask their political affiliations.

My perception, possibly not fact, is that I see a lot of people running around being hysterical saying that OBAMA's Administration is rewriting history, and all sorts of other things. It's my perception, that a lot of this boils down to hysteria, not fact, and quite frankly, that's what keeps the rumor machine of mistrust and h**e going full tilt. When the topic of the book came up -- the one about Obama...Child of Hope -- and how could this book be allowed in schools, I went online to check it out. I found where the book could be bought, but it was NOT listed as a 3rd Grade Curriculum Book that could be bought by teachers as an approved book to be taught in the classroom. So, FACT, the book could be bought, but NOT FACT, that it was being offered in school curriculums polluting little minds, at least not where it had been stated that the book was. I plan on obtaining a book to see if it's as bad as "some" have made it out to sound. By the way, I have 5 grandchildren, 3 of whom are school age, and their parents make a point of being interactive with their schools. Their parents, by the way, have all chosen different political interpretations of things and have lively but respectful discussions. I raised children to think for themselves and they are doing the same with their children. I would expect no less.

I look forward to receiving the link to the Common Core that details EXACTLY what the standards are.

I provided links . There are links all over the internet that pretty much agree it is about testing vs. educating and educators were left out of the decisions . Bill Gates isn't an educator but he spent $ 150 million buying the propaganda . If you really want to get to know it just attend a local school board meeting of those fighting back against it . The school boards were held hostage . Accept the money and the program or face cuts .. Innovation drives the whole economy . Innovators in education are the enemy according to the liberal agenda .

Wasn't sure if you were replying to me or not. If you were -- you are most welcome. Hey, no one will ever agree on everything -- it's human nature. However, I feel we need to keep talking to one another, even when we disagree. I see the disconnect out there, and for me, it's disturbing. There should always be room for another slant on things, hopefully voiced respectfully. Sometimes when food for thought is offered up, perspectives change. Sometimes they don't. We can always respectfully agree to disagree.

Oh, since you are new, perhaps you did not realize that you should "hit" Quote Reply before you start your post. That way, everyone will know who you are responding to.

I provided links . There are links all over the internet that pretty much agree it is about testing vs. educating and educators were left out of the decisions . Bill Gates isn't an educator but he spent $ 150 million buying the propaganda . If you really want to get to know it just attend a local school board meeting of those fighting back against it . The school boards were held hostage . Accept the money and the program or face cuts .. Innovation drives the whole economy . Innovators in education are the enemy according to the liberal agenda .

Sunday is the best day for FOX, IMHO. Chris Wallace is as good as it gets, on any channel. Since I watch both MSNBC & Fox equally, I don't really see any difference, in quality, other than the slant they each put on the news. I also watch CBN, and CNN, but not as often. Any others get very little of my time, so I can't speak as to their overall
quality, from my viewpoint.

I consider neither FOX or MSNBC cable shows fair or impartial. Clearly, FOX wins the ratings battle, primarily due to it being the only true conservative cable news.
All the rest tend to be middle of the road to leaning left, and thus, split the majority of watchers, combined. Fox simply corners the conservative market, with little or no competition for viewers.

I have tried to spread my time around. Chrs Wallace is my favorite morning news show on weekends. Morning Joe, with Joe Scarborough is the best, weekdays, on MSNBC, with people from both sides guesting, almost daily.

The evening shows on either FOX OR MSNBC, rarely, are worth your time, unless one is simply looking to reinforce established perceptions. All the hosts seem to be full of themselves, and are highly partisan. Some good can be gleaned from all, but it's a stretch to call any of them fair and balanced.

Again, IMHO. 8-)

Except the non - funded No Child Left Behind didn't include data mining of our children and place them in yet another government data base .
There are a myriad of questions one must ask . The first being the Constitutionality of the federal government IN education . I know as of late that document has little meaning in the liberal agenda , but none the same it still exists .
Secondly , any discerning adult interested in the t***h would ask where the money is coming from . The " who " . That answer is Bill Gates and various other layers of secretly financed groups many of which can be traced back to Soros . I smell propaganda already ... Add in the obvious lies about the program being " state supported " when in fact they states were left out of the process and mandated the " tests " designed by the billionaires agenda and educators left out . http://thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/16610-educators-expose-dangers-of-common-core-national-education
Why would anyone think that Soros and Gates know more about educating than a half million teachers and school boards is beyond me . One parent asked " if they spend all this time testing when do they teach " ? Good question ... Even though Arnie Duncan was appointed by the Chief Czar we really don't know if he is " Smarter than a fifth grader " . All we know for sure is he assigned to read from the teleprompter on the subject . That and liaison with Soros .
We do however know the history of this tribe . Mandated health care to take our health out of the realm of doctor patient confidentiality and into a government data base . End arounds of both the Legislative branch and the Constitution that even a liberal law professor claims are " dangerous " .
They may have taken grandma's health plan and will determine if she is OK'd for care after the board meets , and in New York ARE confiscating guns not altered or turned in ( you have to be blind not to see the pattern of lies . They claimed it wasn't gun registration . ) , but people from all across the political spectrum seem to be drawing a line when it comes to our kids and Common Core . They may be riding high with their agenda and even convinced 5 people out of 320 million that corporations are people and money is free speech , BUT they would do well to remember that all things done CAN be undone ... Perhaps they need reminding of Amendment number 10 and in not even in their delusional minds can education be considered a " tax " and under the direction of the federal government . My kids and their kids have a much brighter future than becoming a robot capable of working for Apple ... If Gates is interested in education then perhaps he could volunteer reading books to the preschool kids at the library on Saturdays and spend the next $ 150 million buying books and buses . Their are far brighter minds on the subject of education we can tap ...