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Oct 14, 2016 14:00:24   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
I hear this question all the time. So, here's the deal. God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to be sent there because of their rejection of their Creator. They are sent there because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and admit that they have sinned. It's really that simple. Salvation is a free gift. You can accept it, or reject it. Your choice.

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Oct 14, 2016 14:14:58   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I hear this question all the time. So, here's the deal. God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to be sent there because of their rejection of their Creator. They are sent there because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and admit that they have sinned. It's really that simple. Salvation is a free gift. You can accept it, or reject it. Your choice.



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Oct 15, 2016 08:18:51   #
Morgan
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I hear this question all the time. So, here's the deal. God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to be sent there because of their rejection of their Creator. They are sent there because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and admit that they have sinned. It's really that simple. Salvation is a free gift. You can accept it, or reject it. Your choice.


I agree God/ the Divine does not send us to hell, there isn't a hell but the one we do create within ourselves.

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Oct 15, 2016 11:19:22   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
I agree God/ the Divine does not send us to hell, there isn't a hell but the one we do create within ourselves.


If you are claiming that that there is no Hell, then you are wrong.

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Oct 15, 2016 11:39:47   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I hear this question all the time. So, here's the deal. God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to be sent there because of their rejection of their Creator. They are sent there because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and admit that they have sinned. It's really that simple. Salvation is a free gift. You can accept it, or reject it. Your choice.


It's just about as simple as that. God is not responsible for people who, exercising their free will, choose hell over heaven. The entire meaning and purpose of our life is to attain heaven. Everything else pales in comparison.

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Oct 15, 2016 12:14:08   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Morgan wrote:
I agree God/ the Divine does not send us to hell, there isn't a hell but the one we do create within ourselves.


If you believe there is no hell then that crafty Lord of the Flys, the Father of lies has been whispering in your ear and you are believing him. He did that to Adam and Eve too and ever since man has believed what Satan said to them that you, too, can become like God. And ever since foolish people believe they are their own god and can do what they please with no consequences and so they make up their own rules of right and wrong, good and evil.

Hell is actually worse than the description of eternal burning in fire. Hell is a place where there is a total absence of God; a condition heretofore we've never experienced, have no knowledge of, cannot even contemplate the immense overpowering condition of aloneness. If one is to understand hell as burning in eternal pain it would be the pain and suffering of being on the eternal rotisserie and not uttering a scream because there is no one to hear, you possess no knowledge of any other creature's existence and so you suffer in total darkness alone, silently screaming for eternity.........because you chose to do so while you lived. Mankind, all mankind is immortal. In this we have no choice. The choice we have is where we will spend our immortal life. The meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven and God has done all in His power to help you choose heaven without taking away your immense God given power of free will.

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Oct 15, 2016 13:35:14   #
Morgan
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
If you are claiming that that there is no Hell, then you are wrong.


Am I ? You have proof of this?

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Oct 15, 2016 13:59:31   #
Morgan
 
padremike wrote:
If you believe there is no hell then that crafty Lord of the Flys, the Father of lies has been whispering in your ear and you are believing him. He did that to Adam and Eve too and ever since man has believed what Satan said to them that you, too, can become like God. And ever since foolish people believe they are their own god and can do what they please with no consequences and so they make up their own rules of right and wrong, good and evil.

Hell is actually worse than the description of eternal burning in fire. Hell is a place where there is a total absence of God; a condition heretofore we've never experienced, have no knowledge of, cannot even contemplate the immense overpowering condition of aloneness. If one is to understand hell as burning in eternal pain it would be the pain and suffering of being on the eternal rotisserie and not uttering a scream because there is no one to hear, you possess no knowledge of any other creature's existence and so you suffer in total darkness alone, silently screaming for eternity.........because you chose to do so while you lived. Mankind, all mankind is immortal. In this we have no choice. The choice we have is where we will spend our immortal life. The meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven and God has done all in His power to help you choose heaven without taking away your immense God given power of free will.
If you believe there is no hell then that crafty L... (show quote)


Your assumption is incorrect, at least what I believe and I can only speak for myself. I am not my own God, to have any kind of faith or spirituality you have to look past yourself, do you agree with that? One has to believe more that our physical life and certainly more than the ME effect.

I also believe whole heatedly in consequence, those consequences of our bad actions always come back to bite us in the ass until we get it. If we don't get it, we get the self inflicted punishment over and over again until we learn the error of our ways. Retribution is in the hands of the divine source.

If hell is the absence of God you may be correct, and than I have nothing to fear and I believe that was part of his message.
I don't believe the purpose of my life is to attain heaven, I believe it is to experience all of life while we live in the constraints in this physical world, to try and carry on without losing our faith, love and compassion for one another, and when we die we get to go home and reunite. As the soul never dies it transcends.

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Oct 15, 2016 14:19:49   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I hear this question all the time. So, here's the deal. God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to be sent there because of their rejection of their Creator. They are sent there because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and admit that they have sinned. It's really that simple. Salvation is a free gift. You can accept it, or reject it. Your choice.


Only the wicked go to Hell and right now it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are. It was made by God mainly as a deterrent to sin. It is not a furnace or oven as Jews and Christians believe, it is a sea and a black hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. Death and Hell are permanent and your only escape from it is when your sentence for your sin is up, your spirit is snuffed out (drowned) and you cease to exist. You cannot be reincarnated and you cannot go from Hell to Heaven. Vengeance belongs to God.

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Oct 15, 2016 14:21:24   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Morgan wrote:
Your assumption is incorrect, at least what I believe and I can only speak for myself. I am not my own God, to have any kind of faith or spirituality you have to look past yourself, do you agree with that? One has to believe more that our physical life and certainly more than the ME effect.

I also believe whole heatedly in consequence, those consequences of our bad actions always come back to bite us in the ass until we get it. If we don't get it, we get the self inflicted punishment over and over again until we learn the error of our ways. Retribution is in the hands of the divine source.

If hell is the absence of God you may be correct, and than I have nothing to fear and I believe that was part of his message.
I don't believe the purpose of my life is to attain heaven, I believe it is to experience all of life while we live in the constraints in this physical world, to try and carry on without losing our faith, love and compassion for one another, and when we die we get to go home and reunite. As the soul never dies it transcends.
Your assumption is incorrect, at least what I beli... (show quote)


Have it your own way. But understand one thing. The only thing that builds true faith in God is true knowledge and you lack serious and vital knowledge. Emotions and feelings are the most unruly of things on which to make decisions. But there's that old pesky free will thing again. Pax Christi.

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Oct 15, 2016 14:59:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
susanblange wrote:
Only the wicked go to Hell and right now it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are. It was made by God mainly as a deterrent to sin. It is not a furnace or oven as Jews and Christians believe, it is a sea and a black hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. Death and Hell are permanent and your only escape from it is when your sentence for your sin is up, your spirit is snuffed out (drowned) and you cease to exist. You cannot be reincarnated and you cannot go from Hell to Heaven. Vengeance belongs to God.
Only the wicked go to Hell and right now it doesn'... (show quote)

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Oct 15, 2016 17:34:21   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
Am I ? You have proof of this?


Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

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Oct 15, 2016 17:41:08   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
susanblange wrote:
Only the wicked go to Hell and right now it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are. It was made by God mainly as a deterrent to sin. It is not a furnace or oven as Jews and Christians believe, it is a sea and a black hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. Death and Hell are permanent and your only escape from it is when your sentence for your sin is up, your spirit is snuffed out (drowned) and you cease to exist. You cannot be reincarnated and you cannot go from Hell to Heaven. Vengeance belongs to God.
Only the wicked go to Hell and right now it doesn'... (show quote)


The Bible says nothing about Hell being a place of cold. Quite the opposite, in fact.

14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

And they will not die.

Revelation 20:10

10And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

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Oct 15, 2016 17:57:32   #
Morgan
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.



Have you ever read poetry, or how about a country song singing the blues, words are for interpretation and not always literal.

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Oct 15, 2016 18:51:18   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
Have you ever read poetry, or how about a country song singing the blues, words are for interpretation and not always literal.


Jesus said it. I know He spoke in parables, sometimes, but there is nothing to indicate that He did so in this case. There is also nothing to indicate that it should not be taken as anything other than Jesus speaking of actual events. The Bible, especially the words of Christ, should be taken literally; unless there is other Scriptural context that indicates otherwise. Do you know of such Scripture?

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