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Mar 26, 2013 13:23:06   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Have you found any particular age group that is most tender ?


That was a quote from Mark Twain.

Would you care to address the original point?

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Mar 26, 2013 13:24:51   #
Richard94611
 
I have read a lot of Twain but did not recognize the quote. He was a very smart and amusinbg man.


Voice of Reason wrote:
That was a quote from Mark Twain.

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Mar 26, 2013 13:27:35   #
Richard94611
 
Your original point was so silly that I didn't believe you were serious. There is nothing there worth addressing.

Anyway, I must take my dog to the vet now, so we can chat later. I have found an amusing issue that both liberals and conservatives can agree upon. Will post info about it later. It is a real mind-boggler.


Voice of Reason wrote:
That was a quote from Mark Twain.

Would you care to address the original point?

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Mar 26, 2013 14:31:31   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have read a lot of Twain but did not recognize the quote. He was a very smart and amusinbg man.


I agree. He had a way of making a point and making people laugh at the same time.

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Mar 26, 2013 14:32:35   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Your original point was so silly that I didn't believe you were serious. There is nothing there worth addressing.


Yes, silliness was the point. It is no more silly than the idea of a gun-free zone, though.

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Mar 26, 2013 14:34:30   #
Richard94611
 
I agree with you. Having a gun free zone may increase the penalties on those who break the law that applies to that area, but does this really deter anyone ? I don't think so.


Voice of Reason wrote:
Yes, silliness was the point. It is no more silly than the idea of a gun-free zone, though.

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Mar 26, 2013 15:10:44   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I agree with you. Having a gun free zone may increase the penalties on those who break the law that applies to that area, but does this really deter anyone ? I don't think so.


What will be the penalty assessed to the Newtown shooter? I ask that because that law sure didn't stop him but it certainly gave him a handy way to get around being shot by somebody in the middle of his work. I am not sure that all of that wasn't a part of his suicide plans. Are you?

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Mar 26, 2013 15:17:30   #
Richard94611
 
I have no information on which to base an answer.


oldroy wrote:
What will be the penalty assessed to the Newtown shooter? I ask that because that law sure didn't stop him but it certainly gave him a handy way to get around being shot by somebody in the middle of his work. I am not sure that all of that wasn't a part of his suicide plans. Are you?

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Mar 26, 2013 15:30:47   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have no information on which to base an answer.


I would say that if Connecticut has a penalty for murder or mass murder they didn't get to even have a trial. The slob k**led himself. You knew that, didn't you?

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Mar 26, 2013 17:47:45   #
Richard94611
 
I told you I had no information on which to base my answer. I failed to connect the guy's actual name with the incident. I was only concerned with what happened to the children and their teachers, not with the details about the guy who k**led them. Sorry about that.


oldroy wrote:
I would say that if Connecticut has a penalty for murder or mass murder they didn't get to even have a trial. The slob k**led himself. You knew that, didn't you?

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Mar 26, 2013 18:59:52   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have found an amusing issue that both liberals and conservatives can agree upon. Will post info about it later. It is a real mind-boggler.


Well?

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Mar 26, 2013 19:11:32   #
Richard94611
 
coming soon.



Voice of Reason wrote:
Well?

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Mar 27, 2013 10:53:33   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
Please be advised that I served 30 years in the Marine Corps. I retired as a Master Gunnery Sergeant with a primary MOS of 0311 (infantry). My second MOS was 0372 (Force Recon) and third MOS of of 8541 (scout sniper). I served 3 combat tours in Vietnam and was wounded 5-20-69. I also served in Somalia and Iraq, again wounded.
Allow me to add some perspective to you comment: I would never, nor would I EVER order a United States Marine to fire on U.S. citizens NO MATTER WHO gave me the order regardless of the consequences to myself.
Hope this helps.

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Mar 27, 2013 12:03:53   #
Richard94611
 
I think most ex-military would feel the same way. However, I think there are some who WOULD fire on fellow citizens.


shooterofgunmen wrote:
Please be advised that I served 30 years in the Marine Corps. I retired as a Master Gunnery Sergeant with a primary MOS of 0311 (infantry). My second MOS was 0372 (Force Recon) and third MOS of of 8541 (scout sniper). I served 3 combat tours in Vietnam and was wounded 5-20-69. I also served in Somalia and Iraq, again wounded.
Allow me to add some perspective to you comment: I would never, nor would I EVER order a United States Marine to fire on U.S. citizens NO MATTER WHO gave me the order regardless of the consequences to myself.
Hope this helps.
Please be advised that I served 30 years in the Ma... (show quote)

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Mar 27, 2013 12:23:22   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I think most ex-military would feel the same way. However, I think there are some who WOULD fire on fellow citizens.


I think that if Obama or any other administration decided to use military forces against the American people, they would use UN troops or possibly "brownshirts" in the form of Homeland Security, not US military troops.

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