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Jun 20, 2016 07:33:57   #
Cool Breeze
 
robmull wrote:
From before the shooting even ended in Orlando, npp, the secular liberal progressive administration and the "lap-dog" MSM were trying to figure a way to blame Americans, Judeo-Christians, conservatives, Donald Trump, Republicans, "W," the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, guns or the NRA; as usual.


The man is telling the t***h! If you don't like it that's sad. By the numbers 1. I don't agree with same sex marriage but I don't plan to marry anyone with the same sex. These will people will have to answer for it I guess. The people who are most upset about gays are the right. Because OMAR allegedly professed allegiance to ISIS how convenient! Some has dared to say that they asked for it for disobey Gods law. These people profess to be Christians. Are They?

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Jun 20, 2016 08:55:42   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
The man is telling the t***h! If you don't like it that's sad. By the numbers 1. I don't agree with same sex marriage but I don't plan to marry anyone with the same sex. These will people will have to answer for it I guess. The people who are most upset about gays are the right. Because OMAR allegedly professed allegiance to ISIS how convenient! Some has dared to say that they asked for it for disobey Gods law. These people profess to be Christians. Are They?



I believe the best solution is to get the government out of marriage.

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Jun 20, 2016 09:33:20   #
Cool Breeze
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
I believe the best solution is to get the government out of marriage.


Should the Constitution stay out of marriage also?

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Jun 20, 2016 09:37:11   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
PaulPisces wrote:
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any responsibility for their actions, so why should far right Christians be any different?
Although I used pretty strong language against Family Research Council in an earlier post, the fact is that I do not blame them 100%.
But their stance on L***Q rights has indeed contributed significantly to a cultural environment that lends legitimacy to violence against L***Q people.

While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Does their particularly vile take on leveraging scripture to spread h**e really represent Christian doctrine?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/16/westboro-church-protest-orlando-shooting-victims-funerals/86013966/


Fortunately there are good people who block these awful folks from forcing their nastiness on those who are mourning the senseless loss of these young lives.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Angels-to-block-Westboro-Baptist-Church-s-8303872.php
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any re... (show quote)



Fact is it was still a q***r Muslim that shot other q***r people.
This had about as much to do w/ Christians as it does w/ the gun being the problem.
Take responsibility for piss poor legislation and policy from this Administration you support so blindly

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Jun 20, 2016 10:54:14   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
I believe the best solution is to get the government out of marriage.




Of course I don't know for sure, but my guess is you only took on this belief once marriage e******y came into the picture. How long, exactly, have you been clamoring for your state to exchange your marriage certificate for one of domestic partnership?

It's pretty clear that most folks are not particularly interested in bolstering opposite-sex marriage (witness the divorce rate, no litmus test for adultery before happily baking a second or third or fourth wedding cake, etc.) but are very interested in preventing same-sex marriage.

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Jun 20, 2016 11:16:27   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Of course I don't know for sure, but my guess is you only took on this belief once marriage e******y came into the picture. How long, exactly, have you been clamoring for your state to exchange your marriage certificate for one of domestic partnership?

It's pretty clear that most folks are not particularly interested in bolstering opposite-sex marriage (witness the divorce rate, no litmus test for adultery before happily baking a second or third or fourth wedding cake, etc.) but are very interested in preventing same-sex marriage.
Of course I don't know for sure, but my guess is y... (show quote)


I could care less about the government acknowledging same sex marriage, it's the rest of the BS that came along w/ it.
Poor kids and women being creeped on by perverts in the bathroom I do take issue with.

Now what does a q***r shooting other q***rs after pledging allegence to ISIS have to do w/ Christianity?

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Jun 20, 2016 11:35:42   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
the waker wrote:
I could care less about the government acknowledging same sex marriage, it's the rest of the BS that came along w/ it.
Poor kids and women being creeped on by perverts in the bathroom I do take issue with.

Now what does a q***r shooting other q***rs after pledging allegence to ISIS have to do w/ Christianity?



A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y! I didn't think you had it in you. In any case, I was replying to crazylibertarian's post.
B) I know of no one, in or out of the L***Q community, that is OK with kids and women "..being creeped on by perverts in the bathroom..." We can all agree that is a bad thing. But t*********r individuals right to pee in peace has nothing whatsoever to do with that, and I think you know it. If you think it does, then you have been duped by the politicians and fear-mongerers.
C) The one thing conservative Islam and the Christian Right have very much in common (besides worshiping the same God as revealed to Abraham) is their effort to demonize gay folks and create an environment where violence against GBTQ people is acceptable. Anyone with eyes to see can understand that.

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Jun 20, 2016 11:36:10   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Of course I don't know for sure, but my guess is you only took on this belief once marriage e******y came into the picture. How long, exactly, have you been clamoring for your state to exchange your marriage certificate for one of domestic partnership?

It's pretty clear that most folks are not particularly interested in bolstering opposite-sex marriage (witness the divorce rate, no litmus test for adultery before happily baking a second or third or fourth wedding cake, etc.) but are very interested in preventing same-sex marriage.
Of course I don't know for sure, but my guess is y... (show quote)



Of course you don't know for sure but I am sure that you weren't particularly interested in it either until it came into the picutre. And it's immaterial to the discussion.

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Jun 20, 2016 11:41:59   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Of course you don't know for sure but I am sure that you weren't particularly interested in it either until it came into the picutre. And it's immaterial to the discussion.


Hey, I'm just responding to the statement YOU inserted into the thread.
I think if someone makes a statement on OPP it becomes fair game for comment.

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Jun 20, 2016 11:46:33   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PaulPisces wrote:
A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y! I didn't think you had it in you. In any case, I was replying to crazylibertarian's post.

C) The one thing conservative Islam and the Christian Right have very much in common (besides worshiping the same God as revealed to Abraham) is their effort to demonize gay folks and create an environment where violence against GBTQ people is acceptable. Anyone with eyes to see can understand that.



I am sure there are Christians who peddle violence and hatred against GBTQs but it certainly doesn't square with the Christians I know. And besides, anyone who counsels violenace & hatred against anyone is no longer a Christian.

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Jun 20, 2016 11:51:30   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
PaulPisces wrote:
A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y! I didn't think you had it in you. In any case, I was replying to crazylibertarian's post.
B) I know of no one, in or out of the L***Q community, that is OK with kids and women "..being creeped on by perverts in the bathroom..." We can all agree that is a bad thing. But t*********r individuals right to pee in peace has nothing whatsoever to do with that, and I think you know it. If you think it does, then you have been duped by the politicians and fear-mongerers.
C) The one thing conservative Islam and the Christian Right have very much in common (besides worshiping the same God as revealed to Abraham) is their effort to demonize gay folks and create an environment where violence against GBTQ people is acceptable. Anyone with eyes to see can understand that.
A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y!... (show quote)



As far a gay marriage, wh**ever, if the government wants to acknowledge it for tax purposes, so be it, but you can't possibly exept everyone else to.

When has Christianity promoted violence against the LGBQTFISX community?
I must have missed that one.

It's the same legislation used for gay marriage, that is being abused for the t*********r bathroom situation.

Don't think for a second this administrations push for gay marriage, and the wording of the legislation had solely to do w/ gays getting married.

As the suckers we all are, we just fell for it was all, you and your people were simply used, to push an even greater divide.

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Jun 20, 2016 13:48:48   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PaulPisces wrote:
A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y! I didn't think you had it in you. In any case, I was replying to crazylibertarian's post.
B) I know of no one, in or out of the L***Q community, that is OK with kids and women "..being creeped on by perverts in the bathroom..." We can all agree that is a bad thing. But t*********r individuals right to pee in peace has nothing whatsoever to do with that, and I think you know it. If you think it does, then you have been duped by the politicians and fear-mongerers.
C) The one thing conservative Islam and the Christian Right have very much in common (besides worshiping the same God as revealed to Abraham) is their effort to demonize gay folks and create an environment where violence against GBTQ people is acceptable. Anyone with eyes to see can understand that.
A) Thanks for your support for marriage e******y!... (show quote)

Would you kindly stop saying that Islam and Christianity worship the same God. Nothing could be further from the t***h.

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Jun 20, 2016 13:59:13   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Would you kindly stop saying that Islam and Christianity worship the same God. Nothing could be further from the t***h.


This could be why he doesn't know the difference.
http://www.infowars.com/doj-replaces-allah-with-god-in-edited-orlando-terrorist-transcript/

It doesn't fit the narrative the left is pushing now.
Sooner or later even he has to see how many times the story has changed to fit this Administration's agenda

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Jun 20, 2016 14:29:54   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Would you kindly stop saying that Islam and Christianity worship the same God. Nothing could be further from the t***h.


No I will not, because I and history believe it to be true.
You are welcome to your own beliefs, but you may not require me to adhere to them.

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Jun 20, 2016 14:31:04   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
the waker wrote:
This could be why he doesn't know the difference.
http://www.infowars.com/doj-replaces-allah-with-god-in-edited-orlando-terrorist-transcript/

It doesn't fit the narrative the left is pushing now.
Sooner or later even he has to see how many times the story has changed to fit this Administration's agenda


But magically, the opposite does fit the narrative of the Christian right.

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