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Jun 19, 2016 10:22:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre
Posted On 14 Jun 2016
By : shawn

It can be trying at times to unravel the twisted logic used by liberals to turn every situation into a political windfall, but sometimes, it’s almost impossible. Not just impossible, but sickening at a basic human level. Some things go beyond partisan politics, beyond gasbagging for attention, and straight into the realm of evil.

Such was the case this week when two ACLU attorneys tried to blame Christian conservatives for the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando.

From The Daily Caller:

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s L**T and AIDS project, claimed the social and political environment cultivated by Christian conservatives in recent months was to blame for the shooting at Pulse, a nightclub popular with Orlando’s L**T community.

The Daily Caller also reported that another ACLU lawyer, Eunice Hyon Min Rho, blasted congressional Republicans for their “useless” expressions of solidarity with the victims of the attack. Rho said that because Republican support religious freedom bills, stigmatize people of color, and pursue an “anti-Muslim agenda,” their sympathies were not welcome.

To these people, the ISLAMIC terrorist attack carried out by a MUSLIM was somehow inspired by…who? Paul Ryan? The governor of North Carolina? Christians who happen to believe that the definition of marriage – unchanged for thousands of years – is still best applied to the union of a man and a woman? People who aren’t quite sold on the idea that men are born women and women are born men? Conservatives who don’t think the federal government has the right to override the will of the v**ers and the laws of our states for no better reason than “they wanna”?

The delusion of these i***ts is boundless.

But really, it’s not delusion. It’s just another attack on the traditions, beliefs, and religious principles that most Americans hold dear. These scumbags know their enemies all too well. They go by different names – the Founding Fathers, the Bible, the Constitution, conservatism, to name a few – and they must all fall if the left is to truly change America the way they want to change it.

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Jun 19, 2016 10:52:12   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
no propaganda please wrote:
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre
Posted On 14 Jun 2016
By : shawn

It can be trying at times to unravel the twisted logic used by liberals to turn every situation into a political windfall, but sometimes, it’s almost impossible. Not just impossible, but sickening at a basic human level. Some things go beyond partisan politics, beyond gasbagging for attention, and straight into the realm of evil.

Such was the case this week when two ACLU attorneys tried to blame Christian conservatives for the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando.

From The Daily Caller:

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s L**T and AIDS project, claimed the social and political environment cultivated by Christian conservatives in recent months was to blame for the shooting at Pulse, a nightclub popular with Orlando’s L**T community.

The Daily Caller also reported that another ACLU lawyer, Eunice Hyon Min Rho, blasted congressional Republicans for their “useless” expressions of solidarity with the victims of the attack. Rho said that because Republican support religious freedom bills, stigmatize people of color, and pursue an “anti-Muslim agenda,” their sympathies were not welcome.

To these people, the ISLAMIC terrorist attack carried out by a MUSLIM was somehow inspired by…who? Paul Ryan? The governor of North Carolina? Christians who happen to believe that the definition of marriage – unchanged for thousands of years – is still best applied to the union of a man and a woman? People who aren’t quite sold on the idea that men are born women and women are born men? Conservatives who don’t think the federal government has the right to override the will of the v**ers and the laws of our states for no better reason than “they wanna”?

The delusion of these i***ts is boundless.

But really, it’s not delusion. It’s just another attack on the traditions, beliefs, and religious principles that most Americans hold dear. These scumbags know their enemies all too well. They go by different names – the Founding Fathers, the Bible, the Constitution, conservatism, to name a few – and they must all fall if the left is to truly change America the way they want to change it.
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre... (show quote)






From before the shooting even ended in Orlando, npp, the secular liberal progressive administration and the "lap-dog" MSM were trying to figure a way to blame Americans, Judeo-Christians, conservatives, Donald Trump, Republicans, "W," the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, guns or the NRA; as usual.

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Jun 19, 2016 14:46:46   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre
Posted On 14 Jun 2016
By : shawn

It can be trying at times to unravel the twisted logic used by liberals to turn every situation into a political windfall, but sometimes, it’s almost impossible. Not just impossible, but sickening at a basic human level. Some things go beyond partisan politics, beyond gasbagging for attention, and straight into the realm of evil.

Such was the case this week when two ACLU attorneys tried to blame Christian conservatives for the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando.

From The Daily Caller:

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s L**T and AIDS project, claimed the social and political environment cultivated by Christian conservatives in recent months was to blame for the shooting at Pulse, a nightclub popular with Orlando’s L**T community.

The Daily Caller also reported that another ACLU lawyer, Eunice Hyon Min Rho, blasted congressional Republicans for their “useless” expressions of solidarity with the victims of the attack. Rho said that because Republican support religious freedom bills, stigmatize people of color, and pursue an “anti-Muslim agenda,” their sympathies were not welcome.

To these people, the ISLAMIC terrorist attack carried out by a MUSLIM was somehow inspired by…who? Paul Ryan? The governor of North Carolina? Christians who happen to believe that the definition of marriage – unchanged for thousands of years – is still best applied to the union of a man and a woman? People who aren’t quite sold on the idea that men are born women and women are born men? Conservatives who don’t think the federal government has the right to override the will of the v**ers and the laws of our states for no better reason than “they wanna”?

The delusion of these i***ts is boundless.

But really, it’s not delusion. It’s just another attack on the traditions, beliefs, and religious principles that most Americans hold dear. These scumbags know their enemies all too well. They go by different names – the Founding Fathers, the Bible, the Constitution, conservatism, to name a few – and they must all fall if the left is to truly change America the way they want to change it.
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre... (show quote)




It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any responsibility for their actions, so why should far right Christians be any different?
Although I used pretty strong language against Family Research Council in an earlier post, the fact is that I do not blame them 100%.
But their stance on L***Q rights has indeed contributed significantly to a cultural environment that lends legitimacy to violence against L***Q people.

While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Does their particularly vile take on leveraging scripture to spread h**e really represent Christian doctrine?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/16/westboro-church-protest-orlando-shooting-victims-funerals/86013966/


Fortunately there are good people who block these awful folks from forcing their nastiness on those who are mourning the senseless loss of these young lives.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Angels-to-block-Westboro-Baptist-Church-s-8303872.php

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Jun 19, 2016 16:03:48   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PaulPisces wrote:
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any responsibility for their actions, so why should far right Christians be any different?
Although I used pretty strong language against Family Research Council in an earlier post, the fact is that I do not blame them 100%.
But their stance on L***Q rights has indeed contributed significantly to a cultural environment that lends legitimacy to violence against L***Q people.

While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Does their particularly vile take on leveraging scripture to spread h**e really represent Christian doctrine?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/16/westboro-church-protest-orlando-shooting-victims-funerals/86013966/


Fortunately there are good people who block these awful folks from forcing their nastiness on those who are mourning the senseless loss of these young lives.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Angels-to-block-Westboro-Baptist-Church-s-8303872.php
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any re... (show quote)


The Westboro Baptist church does not represent most Christians particuarly the ones we work with.however just how many homosexuals have those people in this church murdered in the last five years? Muslims have murdered hundreds of thousands of Christians, taken their children as sex s***es. At this point they are not castrating the adult men to make s***es out of them. That is a step in the right direction.

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Jun 19, 2016 16:11:05   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PaulPisces wrote:
...While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Does their particularly vile take on leveraging scripture to spread h**e really represent Christian doctrine?...

Paul…Please quit being disingenuous and trying to forward a narrative that just isn’t true. And there’s more

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-condemn-westboro-hatred-37093/

http://www.inquisitr.com/3213076/westboro-baptist-church-criticized-by-christians-as-they-protest-orlando-shooting-victims-funerals/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/06/18/hundreds-counter-protest-westboro-baptist-demonstration-in-orlando/?utm_term=.52462d938aba

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Jun 19, 2016 16:25:56   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 



I am sure that you have noticed that no matter what the cause, activists for that agenda choose to ignore all other points of view or make outlandish claims about all those who disagree with their stance. It has been my impression that the L***Q activists are among the most outspoken for their agenda. That is not surprising because, in spite of the fact that they represent less than 3% of the population, the finances keep them well . Not only are the L***q people among the most well paid but George Soros and friends pour millions and millions into their coffers yearly, from the Southern Poverty Law Center to the Gay and Lesbian Task Force and a large number of L***Q front organizations, they are well covered.

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Jun 19, 2016 17:02:52   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The Westboro Baptist church does not represent most Christians particuarly the ones we work with.however just how many homosexuals have those people in this church murdered in the last five years? Muslims have murdered hundreds of thousands of Christians, taken their children as sex s***es. At this point they are not castrating the adult men to make s***es out of them. That is a step in the right direction.



Yet I still do not hear you denouncing the activity of the Westboro Baptist Church.
So I will ask you outright, what is your position on the Westboro Baptist Church?

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Jun 19, 2016 17:10:35   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 




I'm unclear how you found my narrative to be untrue. I presented a balanced post that showed not only the awfulness of the Westboro Baptist Church but a loving Christian response to them.

Why is it you yourself say nothing to condemn Westboro Baptist Church?
What I find disingenuous is Christians who claim radical Christian groups do not represent all Christianity, yet maintain that radical Muslims do in fact represent all of Islam.
It smacks of hypocrisy at the worst, or dumb self-delusion at the least.

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Jun 19, 2016 17:52:08   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm unclear how you found my narrative to be untrue. I presented a balanced post that showed not only the awfulness of the Westboro Baptist Church but a loving Christian response to them.

Why is it you yourself say nothing to condemn Westboro Baptist Church?
What I find disingenuous is Christians who claim radical Christian groups do not represent all Christianity, yet maintain that radical Muslims do in fact represent all of Islam.
It smacks of hypocrisy at the worst, or dumb self-delusion at the least.
I'm unclear how you found my narrative to be untru... (show quote)

You wrote, and I quote, “While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?” And I provided proof that your statement was untrue.

I have never been given an opportunity to give “moral outcry” of the Westboro Baptist Church. But now that it’s brought up I unequivocally denounce anything that has to do with that un-biblical and un-Christian-like church.

And Paul for your information there is nothing such as a “moderate” Christian. Either you are a follower of Jesus Christ or you are not. And trust me when I say that there are multitudes of people who claim to be Christian but don’t know the first thing about being a follower of Jesus Christ, hence they truly are NOT a Christian.

And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. Matthew 24:4-5 (ESV)

As for radical Muslims, which is redundant, they represent true Islam while "moderate" Muslims represent cultural Islam.

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Jun 19, 2016 20:52:46   #
L8erToots
 
PaulPisces wrote:
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any responsibility for their actions, so why should far right Christians be any different?
Although I used pretty strong language against Family Research Council in an earlier post, the fact is that I do not blame them 100%.
But their stance on L***Q rights has indeed contributed significantly to a cultural environment that lends legitimacy to violence against L***Q people.

While we are on the topic, where is the moral outcry from moderate Christians about the decidedly un-Christian activities of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Does their particularly vile take on leveraging scripture to spread h**e really represent Christian doctrine?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/16/westboro-church-protest-orlando-shooting-victims-funerals/86013966/


Fortunately there are good people who block these awful folks from forcing their nastiness on those who are mourning the senseless loss of these young lives.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Angels-to-block-Westboro-Baptist-Church-s-8303872.php
It's pretty rare for nasty bullies to claim any re... (show quote)
I have many friends and family that are moderate Christians and they are ALL vocal about ALL Christians who spread h**e in the name of God and Christ. The thing to remember is that most Christians, GOOD Christians, know that they AREN'T perfect and that's why they study the bible and go to church - to become better people and to be more loving, accepting and giving people. The far right Christians have h**e in their hearts and they KNOW that it's wrong - that's why they search for and cling to anything in their bible that justifies and validates their hatred so they don't have to take personal responsibility for their behavior. I totally understand why L***Q people turn away from God and the Christian faith - and any Christian who says they should...shame on them. Who, unless they were a vile, h**eful person, would tell a son or daughter "Your father h**es you, doesn't accept you and thinks you should die because you're (fill in the blank)", especially when it's based on nothing more than hearsay?
Ugh, I love God, but h**e religion.

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Jun 19, 2016 20:55:54   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
L8erToots wrote:
I have many friends and family that are moderate Christians and they are ALL vocal about ALL Christians who spread h**e in the name of God and Christ. The thing to remember is that most Christians, GOOD Christians, know that they AREN'T perfect and that's why they study the bible and go to church - to become better people and to be more loving, accepting and giving people. The far right Christians have h**e in their hearts and they KNOW that it's wrong - that's why they search for and cling to anything in their bible that justifies and validates their hatred so they don't have to take personal responsibility for their behavior. I totally understand why L***Q people turn away from God and the Christian faith - and any Christian who says they should...shame on them. Who, unless they were a vile, h**eful person, would tell a son or daughter "Your father h**es you, doesn't accept you and thinks you should die because you're (fill in the blank)", especially when it's based on nothing more than hearsay?
Ugh, I love God, but h**e religion.
I have many friends and family that are moderate C... (show quote)




What a clear, beautiful, loving and brave post, toots. Thanks for yor wisdom.

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Jun 19, 2016 21:30:13   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Yet I still do not hear you denouncing the activity of the Westboro Baptist Church.
So I will ask you outright, what is your position on the Westboro Baptist Church?



As I have said before the Westboro Baptist Church is unChristian and h**eful, and their behavior is most unChristian, I believe that most Christians would agree with me n that statement.

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Jun 19, 2016 21:34:22   #
PeterS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre
Posted On 14 Jun 2016
By : shawn

It can be trying at times to unravel the twisted logic used by liberals to turn every situation into a political windfall, but sometimes, it’s almost impossible. Not just impossible, but sickening at a basic human level. Some things go beyond partisan politics, beyond gasbagging for attention, and straight into the realm of evil.

Such was the case this week when two ACLU attorneys tried to blame Christian conservatives for the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando.

From The Daily Caller:

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s L**T and AIDS project, claimed the social and political environment cultivated by Christian conservatives in recent months was to blame for the shooting at Pulse, a nightclub popular with Orlando’s L**T community.

The Daily Caller also reported that another ACLU lawyer, Eunice Hyon Min Rho, blasted congressional Republicans for their “useless” expressions of solidarity with the victims of the attack. Rho said that because Republican support religious freedom bills, stigmatize people of color, and pursue an “anti-Muslim agenda,” their sympathies were not welcome.

To these people, the ISLAMIC terrorist attack carried out by a MUSLIM was somehow inspired by…who? Paul Ryan? The governor of North Carolina? Christians who happen to believe that the definition of marriage – unchanged for thousands of years – is still best applied to the union of a man and a woman? People who aren’t quite sold on the idea that men are born women and women are born men? Conservatives who don’t think the federal government has the right to override the will of the v**ers and the laws of our states for no better reason than “they wanna”?

The delusion of these i***ts is boundless.

But really, it’s not delusion. It’s just another attack on the traditions, beliefs, and religious principles that most Americans hold dear. These scumbags know their enemies all too well. They go by different names – the Founding Fathers, the Bible, the Constitution, conservatism, to name a few – and they must all fall if the left is to truly change America the way they want to change it.
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre... (show quote)


What, they think all the Christian h**e spewed at gays caused this guy to go off the rails? All major religions h**e gays--you can't blame this solely on Christians...

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Jun 19, 2016 21:36:58   #
PeterS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
As I have said before the Westboro Baptist Church is unChristian and h**eful, and their behavior is most unChristian, I believe that most Christians would agree with me n that statement.

You can say what you want--but they read the same bible and pray to the same god as you. And I don't think Christianity is a democracy so what "most" Christians think is irrelevant....

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Jun 20, 2016 05:43:50   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
no propaganda please wrote:
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre
Posted On 14 Jun 2016
By : shawn

It can be trying at times to unravel the twisted logic used by liberals to turn every situation into a political windfall, but sometimes, it’s almost impossible. Not just impossible, but sickening at a basic human level. Some things go beyond partisan politics, beyond gasbagging for attention, and straight into the realm of evil.

Such was the case this week when two ACLU attorneys tried to blame Christian conservatives for the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando.

From The Daily Caller:

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s L**T and AIDS project, claimed the social and political environment cultivated by Christian conservatives in recent months was to blame for the shooting at Pulse, a nightclub popular with Orlando’s L**T community.

The Daily Caller also reported that another ACLU lawyer, Eunice Hyon Min Rho, blasted congressional Republicans for their “useless” expressions of solidarity with the victims of the attack. Rho said that because Republican support religious freedom bills, stigmatize people of color, and pursue an “anti-Muslim agenda,” their sympathies were not welcome.

To these people, the ISLAMIC terrorist attack carried out by a MUSLIM was somehow inspired by…who? Paul Ryan? The governor of North Carolina? Christians who happen to believe that the definition of marriage – unchanged for thousands of years – is still best applied to the union of a man and a woman? People who aren’t quite sold on the idea that men are born women and women are born men? Conservatives who don’t think the federal government has the right to override the will of the v**ers and the laws of our states for no better reason than “they wanna”?

The delusion of these i***ts is boundless.

But really, it’s not delusion. It’s just another attack on the traditions, beliefs, and religious principles that most Americans hold dear. These scumbags know their enemies all too well. They go by different names – the Founding Fathers, the Bible, the Constitution, conservatism, to name a few – and they must all fall if the left is to truly change America the way they want to change it.
ACLU Lawyers Blame Christians for Orlando Massacre... (show quote)



At its inception during WWI, ACLU was a c*******t organization under the primary direction of Roger Baldwin. It was founded in reaction to the reprehensible Palmer Raids that were conducted by AG Palmer to squash opposition to the war we'd entered under progressive Pres. T. Woodrow Wilson. That progressive war was to 'make the world safe for democracy.' ACLU wished to protect c*******ts from prosecution by using the Constitution.

By the late 1940s, ACLU had become so associated with CPUSA that Roger Baldwin moved to purge its leadership of c*******ts and even went so far as to endorse the work of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy, something I can not, for the life of me, figure out.

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