Not sure if this is the place for me but.. (Page 2): I made one simply declarative statement and you address a thesis to me. Perhaps you would have been better advised to read some of...

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Dave wrote:

Special group, by definition, means not equal righ... (show quote)

I made one simply declarative statement and you address a thesis to me. Perhaps you would have been better advised to read some of the other comments and place your diatribe there.

1OldGeezer

AuntiE wrote:

"Just rights" are not special enough for certain groups. The precedent for being a protected, special group was set with Affirmative Action.

AuntieE,
I'm not so sure that government has the capability to legislate fairly on a moral issue. Laws and Government usually just changes WHO is discriminated against, like Affirmative Action.
I suggest that this problem will be truly solved only when people wise up and become tolerant of other persons non-threating lifestyle or views. The idea is good, but laws to correct the problem will create more resentment from others.
The question is; does the good done by the law outweigh the bad done by the law, should the government be involved. I don't know, just some thoughts.
1oldgeezer

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

1OldGeezer wrote:

AuntieE, br I'm not so sure that government has th... (show quote)

I will comment on only one portion, the first sentence.

As I DO NOT perceive people in the government are very moral, they would have ZERO capability of legislating, fairly or unfairly, on any moral issue.

Just my thoughts.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

AuntiE wrote:

I will comment on only one portion, the first sentence.

As I DO NOT perceive people in the government are very moral, they would have ZERO capability of legislating, fairly or unfairly, on any moral issue.

Just my thoughts.

I've found they do tolerably well on the moral issues of murder and theft, not admirably.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

AuntiE wrote:

As equal pay is one of your issues, you may wish t... (show quote)

When the "bill of rights" were written there as no such thing as health insurance. Didn't need to be considered as physicians, at that time, considered it their oath to treat anyone who needed it - regardless.

auntie lee Loc: abandoned coal mine

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Welcome Auntie Lee, br br You are definitely in t... (show quote)

First how can you be appalled by what little I posted about my positions...I didn't figure I needed to explain everything I believe in one fell swoop. I have no problem with companies making a profit, it is what businesses do. I do however have a big problem with companies that make billions in profit and get tax payer subsidies or end up paying zero taxes and in some cases have gotten millions in refunds, while funding is cut for educating the children who are going to be the leaders of tomorrow. If we do not make education a much higher priority than it is now this country is going to be screwed when the future becomes the present.

I don't think I said I was in favor of murder or anything like it. I am pro-choice, that does not make me pro-a******n. I think they should be rarely used and none after the 20th week unless there is a valid medical reason. I do think that a woman who is the victim of rape that results in pregnancy or incest she should have the choice. Despite what some think women do not posses a magical vagina capable of telling the difference between friendly sperm and that of a rapist. I have always found it amusing that republicans seem to have no problem with the death penalty, k*****g a living breathing human being, yet they love to tell folks like me that if we abort a single cell we are destined for hell. I also find it irrational for those who are anti-choice to rail against birth control. Now if you are a pharmacist or a boss and you don't believe in birth control then you don't have to fill the script or offer it in insurance. They want a big old consciousness clause that will allow them to control what a woman can and can't put in her body. News flash guys, there are reasons for taking birth control pills that have nothing to do with pregnancy control. It amazes me that you all fight so hard to make women let nature take its course...if you have sex they don't want you to have protection and if you get pregnant you must carry to term yet they don't follow their own rhetoric. Now if the penis doesn't always preform or dies, as nature intended it to later in life we must save it at all costs...Viagra, Cialis and penis pumps all around.

As far as adultery goes, I personally think it should be a jail-able offense. I find it hard to listen to someone telling me about the sanctity of marriage when they are on their third or fourth wife or are currently c***ting on their spouse.

I find it funny that the party claiming to want smaller government wants it big enough to get in the vaginas of American women and in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

freeperson

Confused wrote:

Income without work . Doesn't that pretty well define tax loopholes to the wealthy ?

Please explain how getting out of taxes though loopholes is income without work.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

auntie lee wrote:

First how can you be appalled by what little I posted about my positions...I didn't figure I needed to explain everything I believe in one fell swoop. I have no problem with companies making a profit, it is what businesses do. I do however have a big problem with companies that make billions in profit and get tax payer subsidies or end up paying zero taxes and in some cases have gotten millions in refunds, while funding is cut for educating the children who are going to be the leaders of tomorrow. If we do not make education a much higher priority than it is now this country is going to be screwed when the future becomes the present.

I don't think I said I was in favor of murder or anything like it. I am pro-choice, that does not make me pro-a******n. I think they should be rarely used and none after the 20th week unless there is a valid medical reason. I do think that a woman who is the victim of rape that results in pregnancy or incest she should have the choice. Despite what some think women do not posses a magical vagina capable of telling the difference between friendly sperm and that of a rapist. I have always found it amusing that republicans seem to have no problem with the death penalty, k*****g a living breathing human being, yet they love to tell folks like me that if we abort a single cell we are destined for hell. I also find it irrational for those who are anti-choice to rail against birth control. Now if you are a pharmacist or a boss and you don't believe in birth control then you don't have to fill the script or offer it in insurance. They want a big old consciousness clause that will allow them to control what a woman can and can't put in her body. News flash guys, there are reasons for taking birth control pills that have nothing to do with pregnancy control. It amazes me that you all fight so hard to make women let nature take its course...if you have sex they don't want you to have protection and if you get pregnant you must carry to term yet they don't follow their own rhetoric. Now if the penis doesn't always preform or dies, as nature intended it to later in life we must save it at all costs...Viagra, Cialis and penis pumps all around.

As far as adultery goes, I personally think it should be a jail-able offense. I find it hard to listen to someone telling me about the sanctity of marriage when they are on their third or fourth wife or are currently c***ting on their spouse.

I find it funny that the party claiming to want smaller government wants it big enough to get in the vaginas of American women and in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

First how can you be appalled by what little I pos... (show quote)

Death penalty: life for life.

What else is justice for k*****g other people than your own life taken from you?

I find it funny you affiliate a political party with certain moral positions.

Why should I pay to educate other people's children? What is good about stealing from me to educate your children?

freeperson

auntie lee wrote:

First how can you be appalled by what little I posted about my positions...I didn't figure I needed to explain everything I believe in one fell swoop. I have no problem with companies making a profit, it is what businesses do. I do however have a big problem with companies that make billions in profit and get tax payer subsidies or end up paying zero taxes and in some cases have gotten millions in refunds, while funding is cut for educating the children who are going to be the leaders of tomorrow. If we do not make education a much higher priority than it is now this country is going to be screwed when the future becomes the present.

I don't think I said I was in favor of murder or anything like it. I am pro-choice, that does not make me pro-a******n. I think they should be rarely used and none after the 20th week unless there is a valid medical reason. I do think that a woman who is the victim of rape that results in pregnancy or incest she should have the choice. Despite what some think women do not posses a magical vagina capable of telling the difference between friendly sperm and that of a rapist. I have always found it amusing that republicans seem to have no problem with the death penalty, k*****g a living breathing human being, yet they love to tell folks like me that if we abort a single cell we are destined for hell. I also find it irrational for those who are anti-choice to rail against birth control. Now if you are a pharmacist or a boss and you don't believe in birth control then you don't have to fill the script or offer it in insurance. They want a big old consciousness clause that will allow them to control what a woman can and can't put in her body. News flash guys, there are reasons for taking birth control pills that have nothing to do with pregnancy control. It amazes me that you all fight so hard to make women let nature take its course...if you have sex they don't want you to have protection and if you get pregnant you must carry to term yet they don't follow their own rhetoric. Now if the penis doesn't always preform or dies, as nature intended it to later in life we must save it at all costs...Viagra, Cialis and penis pumps all around.

As far as adultery goes, I personally think it should be a jail-able offense. I find it hard to listen to someone telling me about the sanctity of marriage when they are on their third or fourth wife or are currently c***ting on their spouse.

I find it funny that the party claiming to want smaller government wants it big enough to get in the vaginas of American women and in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

First how can you be appalled by what little I pos... (show quote)

You sound pretty conservative. With maybe a little lean towards libertarian. I agree with everything you just said.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

AuntiE wrote:

I made one simply declarative statement and you address a thesis to me. Perhaps you would have been better advised to read some of the other comments and place your diatribe there.

I apologize if I posted to the wrong comments - all these Auntie's confuse a simpleton like me.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

auntie lee wrote:

First how can you be appalled by what little I posted about my positions...I didn't figure I needed to explain everything I believe in one fell swoop. I have no problem with companies making a profit, it is what businesses do. I do however have a big problem with companies that make billions in profit and get tax payer subsidies or end up paying zero taxes and in some cases have gotten millions in refunds, while funding is cut for educating the children who are going to be the leaders of tomorrow. If we do not make education a much higher priority than it is now this country is going to be screwed when the future becomes the present.

I don't think I said I was in favor of murder or anything like it. I am pro-choice, that does not make me pro-a******n. I think they should be rarely used and none after the 20th week unless there is a valid medical reason. I do think that a woman who is the victim of rape that results in pregnancy or incest she should have the choice. Despite what some think women do not posses a magical vagina capable of telling the difference between friendly sperm and that of a rapist. I have always found it amusing that republicans seem to have no problem with the death penalty, k*****g a living breathing human being, yet they love to tell folks like me that if we abort a single cell we are destined for hell. I also find it irrational for those who are anti-choice to rail against birth control. Now if you are a pharmacist or a boss and you don't believe in birth control then you don't have to fill the script or offer it in insurance. They want a big old consciousness clause that will allow them to control what a woman can and can't put in her body. News flash guys, there are reasons for taking birth control pills that have nothing to do with pregnancy control. It amazes me that you all fight so hard to make women let nature take its course...if you have sex they don't want you to have protection and if you get pregnant you must carry to term yet they don't follow their own rhetoric. Now if the penis doesn't always preform or dies, as nature intended it to later in life we must save it at all costs...Viagra, Cialis and penis pumps all around.

As far as adultery goes, I personally think it should be a jail-able offense. I find it hard to listen to someone telling me about the sanctity of marriage when they are on their third or fourth wife or are currently c***ting on their spouse.

I find it funny that the party claiming to want smaller government wants it big enough to get in the vaginas of American women and in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

First how can you be appalled by what little I pos... (show quote)

Smaller government would be a solution to large corporations buying favor from establishment politicians

Those who believe in unrestricted a******n are the fringe - not those who believe the government has a role to play.

Those who suggest the bedrooms of consenting adults must support incestous and mulitiple marriages as long as those involved consent - another fringe position

auntie lee Loc: abandoned coal mine

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Death penalty: life for life.

What else is justice for k*****g other people than your own life taken from you?

I find it funny you affiliate a political party with certain moral positions.

Why should I pay to educate other people's children? What is good about stealing from me to educate your children?

I believe it was Jesus that said "let he who is without sin throw the first stone."

I have a no problem with others moral positions, I have a problem when you try to turn your beliefs into my laws.

I don't have children but I do care about them and whether they will be ready for the world when it is their turn to run it. We are getting our collective butts kicked by other nations when it comes to science, technology, engineering and math and cutting funding for education is not going to do anything but make the problem worse. I do not see how this means I want to take money out of your pocket. I want it to come from those companies who have benefited billions of dollars in profit yet are still getting taxpayer subsidies, so if anyone is taking money from you it is them.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

auntie lee wrote:

I believe it was Jesus that said "let he who ... (show quote)

It is your opinion that your morals should be my laws, but my morals should not be your laws.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

auntie lee wrote:

I believe it was Jesus that said "let he who ... (show quote)

You can use a littel bit of economic education. Businesses do not pay taxes, they collect them for the government.

Big business loves big government - that is how they can keep comptetition at bay.

Breals for special interests come from establishment politicians from both parties. The only political movement of any seriousness opposing this establishment is the tea party you so disdain.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

It is your opinion that your morals should be my laws, but my morals should not be your laws.

Good catch and well said