Hillary overrated (Page 9): You miss the point. "Up to" is not the same as "every." Way back in one of these forums we had a post from someone who had saved that and perhaps more. You...

Richard94611

You miss the point. "Up to" is not the same as "every." Way back in one of these forums we had a post from someone who had saved that and perhaps more.

You can protest and fight and scream and lie and distort all you want, but ObamaCare is here to stay. It works in Massachusetts and will work across the country.

bmac32 wrote:

19 times in one speech he said up to $2500 per family. That is distorting the facts, find me someone who saved $2000, hell find someone who saved $1000! The exact oppsite is happening so you can spin it anyway you want.

Richard94611

What a weasel" comment ! He stated that some families could save up to $2500. He did not state that every family would save $2500. You post lying nonsense, and seem unable to grasp the difference between "up to" and "every."

I'll jump back into the discussion in about 8 hours. Must go off to work.

bmac32 wrote:

No I am not distorting a thing. He failed to say what the deductables would be, in fact no mention. When you deductable doubles that means YOU have less money.

VladimirPee

Richard consistently objects to things without doing a shred of research which tells me he follows like a blind sheep or supports anything Obama does blindly for other reasons. Possibly skin color.

bmac32 wrote:

No I am not distorting a thing. He failed to say what the deductables would be, in fact no mention. When you deductable doubles that means YOU have less money.

VladimirPee

Obama stated " The typical family".

Richard94611 wrote:

What a weasel" comment ! He stated that some families could save up to $2500. He did not state that every family would save $2500. You post lying nonsense, and seem unable to grasp the difference between "up to" and "every."

I'll jump back into the discussion in about 8 hours. Must go off to work.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

What is in Mass is not the same thing, it's like but not the same. One person saving doesn't compare to 1000's of rates being jacked. Unless Obama and the democrats find ways to steal money like they did from Medicare ObamaCare will fall apart, maybe not this year but when they bring everyone into it.

Richard94611 wrote:

You miss the point. "Up to" is not the same as "every." Way back in one of these forums we had a post from someone who had saved that and perhaps more.

You can protest and fight and scream and lie and distort all you want, but ObamaCare is here to stay. It works in Massachusetts and will work across the country.

VladimirPee

Back in 2008 even the NY Times felt the promise of $2500 in savings was BULL

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23health.html?ex=1374552000&en=59763b2937c15bd3&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink&_r=0

Richard94611 wrote:

What a weasel" comment ! He stated that some families could save up to $2500. He did not state that every family would save $2500. You post lying nonsense, and seem unable to grasp the difference between "up to" and "every."

I'll jump back into the discussion in about 8 hours. Must go off to work.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

You read very poorly, I said up to. I never said everyone anywhere. Call me or what I say wh**ever name you like.

Richard94611 wrote:

What a weasel" comment ! He stated that some families could save up to $2500. He did not state that every family would save $2500. You post lying nonsense, and seem unable to grasp the difference between "up to" and "every."

I'll jump back into the discussion in about 8 hours. Must go off to work.

VladimirPee

Obama said " The typical family" his words.

Premiums were increasing slower under Bush and are spiking now

bmac32 wrote:

You read very poorly, I said up to. I never said everyone anywhere. Call me or what I say wh**ever name you like.

JONDO

Richard94611 wrote:

It is obvious that someone has to pay -- all of us.

ote=DennisDee]Richard it is certainly not propaganda. Someone has to pay. who is that someone? You cannot insure 30 Million uninsured for free and add all sorts of expensive options. Middle Class is finding out with each passing day. This was sold on a pack of lies and the country now knows it.

[/quote]Why do they want hard working American Citizens pay for Health insurance for people that came from another country illegally, and the Deadbeat Welfare recipients who are getting checks by fraud. And a crooked Government that thinks its legal to steal our Medicare and also our Social Security. Stop all that and we will be in great shape again.

JONDO

Richard94611 wrote:

You are distorting what he said. Your statement itself here is not true. He said that one might save "as much as 2500." Find me a statement of his that says every family will save $2500."

Yep! Thats what he said, and i never heard the word ( Might )