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Oct 28, 2013 14:29:27   #
matnc816
 
faithistheword wrote:
Can anyone tell me something--I have my car insured with AARP. If I drop my membership--will they drop my insurance? I've wanted to get out, but the ins. is cheaper than most.


Check AMAC they have as many benefits as the t*****rs aarp. I cancelled them out as soon as they stood for obamacare, they support a******n. They have become a very lefty group. AMAC is the way to go. How many fools out there never bothered to drop these people. One clue if they agree with the dweeb Reid and the botox riddled brain of Pelosi you know this org. is NOT for you.

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Oct 28, 2013 18:53:11   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
drphil11 wrote:
The purpose of my contacting you is to request your kind assistance in broadcasting to Senior Citizens in America the continuing deceptions of the AARP. They fraudulently advertise themselves as an advocate for Senior Citizen Rights! What many seniors fail to understand is, this Liberal Democrat run business, openly advocates Obama Care (A*********n Care), as evidenced by public acknowledgement in speech by President Obama himself.
However, their recent actions have managed to slip under the radar of the predominantly liberal media. Their endorsed Medicare Complete by United Health Care (Medicare Advantage Plan) has begun dropping specialists from their plan in Texas.
For example, my senior citizen wife, Miriam, is being treated by Retina Consultants of Houston. One of their principals Dr. David M. Brown is a pioneer in the treatment of macular degenerative eye disease, using injections directly into the eyeball. She is blind in one eye and at risk of losing sight in the other. United Health Care has abruptly dropped Retina Consultants, for which there may not be a so-called in network equivalent. Consider how traumatic you would feel as the patient, or even worst your spouse, having to endure such intrusive treatments, and suddenly lost their doctor? How many strangers would you allow to poke you in the eye? This is a heartless business decision by United Health Care, raising the question of what callousness comes next.
There are couple of actions informed senior citizen can do that hits these perpetrators in their pocket book (1) drop membership in AARP, and (2) drop United Health Care before the December 7, 2013 cutoff date to sign up for Medicare Advantage Plans.
Most important, the real agenda of AARP (end game) needs to be investigated, by both the media and our elected officials. Is this just another orchestrated move toward first forcing seniors on Obama Care, leading to total government control or socialized medicine? Is AARP a pawn in the government strategy? What is AARP’s source of income, and are they a 501c3?
Please join me in spreading this message to American Seniors to avoid further exploitation, and erosion of our constitutional rights. Informed seniors can make their message clear at the b****t box!
God Bless!
The purpose of my contacting you is to request you... (show quote)


You do realize medicare is the provision through federal government of affordable health care for senior citizens, don't you? This very expensive safety net social program for senior citizen health care is funded by a payroll tax and matching employer payment...very expensive. Moreover, unlike "Obamacare," which is choice of private company insurance plans, medicare is entirely govt. insurance. The insurance companies are entirely OK with senior citizen govt.healthcare because it takes the most expensive part of healthcare out of their business so that their healthcare insurance plans can be lower priced and more marketable.

Regarding United Health Cares's dropping your wife's healthcare server, have you contacted them with the problem of locating within reasonable distance access equivalent healthcare service for your wife's very specific treatment? If they can't, they should be responsible pay for this specific specialized treatment (not others) from your provider. I could be wrong but I think they may be legally responsible. Even is that's not the case, they may consider it their moral responsibility. The problem may be partly the unwillingness of your provider to accept negotiated lower payment from the insurance company. Depending on the procedure, it's not uncommon for 50% lower payment agreement. I've seen as much as 90% reduction.

I don't see the AARP connection to your problem and thus won't join in the AARP bash party. ha. Depending on the exact circumstances of your case, AARP might have advice what to do if contacted. Again depending on exact circumstances, AARP might be intermediary or advocate for you.

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Oct 28, 2013 19:37:22   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
jonhatfield wrote:
You do realize medicare is the provision through federal government of affordable health care for senior citizens, don't you? This very expensive safety net social program for senior citizen health care is funded by a payroll tax and matching employer payment...very expensive. Moreover, unlike "Obamacare," which is choice of private company insurance plans, medicare is entirely govt. insurance. The insurance companies are entirely OK with senior citizen govt.healthcare because it takes the most expensive part of healthcare out of their business so that their healthcare insurance plans can be lower priced and more marketable.

Regarding United Health Cares's dropping your wife's healthcare server, have you contacted them with the problem of locating within reasonable distance access equivalent healthcare service for your wife's very specific treatment? If they can't, they should be responsible pay for this specific specialized treatment (not others) from your provider. I could be wrong but I think they may be legally responsible. Even is that's not the case, they may consider it their moral responsibility. The problem may be partly the unwillingness of your provider to accept negotiated lower payment from the insurance company. Depending on the procedure, it's not uncommon for 50% lower payment agreement. I've seen as much as 90% reduction.

I don't see the AARP connection to your problem and thus won't join in the AARP bash party. ha. Depending on the exact circumstances of your case, AARP might have advice what to do if contacted. Again depending on exact circumstances, AARP might be intermediary or advocate for you.
You do realize medicare is the provision through f... (show quote)


jonhatfield: I see a glaring fallacy in your statement about medicare - its a growing failure due to the fact many physicians are now refusing service because of ridiculous payments for services rendered - not to mention the program is grossly underfunded - like the majority of other government Programs? I think we are broke as a nation? Your assessment of the Affordable Healthcare Act is laughable - that program was and is flawed from the day it was envisioned - again some Socialist figured they can pay for it with somebody elses money!.

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Oct 28, 2013 19:49:09   #
RacismequalslowIQ
 
I've heard more negative info coming from the talking heads in radio and TV than I have from people in the trenches. Calif has had success with the application process in regards to the Affordable Care Act, too bad all Governors/states were unwilling to be willing participants in this process. Of course the state officials have their insurance. So what do they care? They just want to send a statement to the Feds. And to heck with their constituents! It's pathetic! I would go to my physician, the one being dropped, and I would ask his opinion on what I should do next. He could possibly refer your wife to someone, in that regard I would trust the next MD because he was referred by my favorite MD. I'm not a willing participant in the blame game. You throw a roadblock in my path and I will go threw it, under it, over it it around it. One way or other I make it (the roadblock), irrelevant.

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Oct 28, 2013 20:44:59   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
jonhatfield: I see a glaring fallacy in your statement about medicare - its a growing failure due to the fact many physicians are now refusing service because of ridiculous payments for services rendered - not to mention the program is grossly underfunded - like the majority of other government Programs? I think we are broke as a nation? Your assessment of the Affordable Healthcare Act is laughable - that program was and is flawed from the day it was envisioned - again some Socialist figured they can pay for it with somebody elses money!.
jonhatfield: I see a glaring fallacy in your stat... (show quote)


I didn't argue for or against medicare. I just stated what it is. So what fallacy (error in statement or argument) are you talking about? You extreme rightists are so busied with seeing errors that you make them up. So what do you propose should be done to remedy the medicare problems? Just trash it like you Tea Party disparagers of any govt. action want to do to any and all federal programs--social security, for example? So what do you plan to do then when Grandma Sutton can't afford insurance and needs medical treatment she can't afford? Please tell me your plan.

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Oct 28, 2013 23:15:51   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
jonhatfield wrote:
I didn't argue for or against medicare. I just stated what it is. So what fallacy (error in statement or argument) are you talking about? You extreme rightists are so busied with seeing errors that you make them up. So what do you propose should be done to remedy the medicare problems? Just trash it like you Tea Party disparagers of any govt. action want to do to any and all federal programs--social security, for example? So what do you plan to do then when Grandma Sutton can't afford insurance and needs medical treatment she can't afford? Please tell me your plan.
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Jonhatfield: Lets it straight again. Medicare and Social Security are compensations - not entitlements. We paid into these ponzi schemes thinking they were legal - but we now know what history tells us about the fiscal buffoonery LBJ and his friends did with the monies. Anything Government touches turns to s**t! You want my money - come and try to take it!

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Oct 29, 2013 08:46:13   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Jonhatfield: Lets it straight again. Medicare and Social Security are compensations - not entitlements. We paid into these ponzi schemes thinking they were legal - but we now know what history tells us about the fiscal buffoonery LBJ and his friends did with the monies. Anything Government touches turns to s**t! You want my money - come and try to take it!


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Oct 29, 2013 10:20:22   #
petertimber
 
RussD wrote:
That is on UHC. Not ACA.
Did UHC give ACA as the reason they dropped the particular care provider? More info please.


AARP is a lobby for Democratic Party and espouses all liberal themes at the expense of senior citizens whom they fawn over with fuzzy words and warm fotos of grandma and grandpa and grandchildren while dipping into their pocketbook and remitting funds and support along with other left wing liberal agendas for hammock swingers, i*****l a***ns and wh**ever else liberals want to accomplish. I quit them when their representative in Congress (yes they are registered lobbyists supposedly for seniors but that's the come on.

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Oct 29, 2013 10:36:08   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
AARP was a big backer of ObamaCare when it first came out and ran spots on TV on how this would a great thing. After a year they stopped running those ads because of the backlash so they now do it quitely pushing United Healthcare which is ranked the low of the low. We had them 15 years ago but dropped them completely and still get mailers every once in awhile.


petertimber wrote:
AARP is a lobby for Democratic Party and espouses all liberal themes at the expense of senior citizens whom they fawn over with fuzzy words and warm fotos of grandma and grandpa and grandchildren while dipping into their pocketbook and remitting funds and support along with other left wing liberal agendas for hammock swingers, i*****l a***ns and wh**ever else liberals want to accomplish. I quit them when their representative in Congress (yes they are registered lobbyists supposedly for seniors but that's the come on.
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Oct 29, 2013 16:33:21   #
faithistheword
 
R****mequalslowIQ wrote:
I've heard more negative info coming from the talking heads in radio and TV than I have from people in the trenches. Calif has had success with the application process in regards to the Affordable Care Act, too bad all Governors/states were unwilling to be willing participants in this process. Of course the state officials have their insurance. So what do they care? They just want to send a statement to the Feds. And to heck with their constituents! It's pathetic! I would go to my physician, the one being dropped, and I would ask his opinion on what I should do next. He could possibly refer your wife to someone, in that regard I would trust the next MD because he was referred by my favorite MD. I'm not a willing participant in the blame game. You throw a roadblock in my path and I will go threw it, under it, over it it around it. One way or other I make it (the roadblock), irrelevant.
I've heard more negative info coming from the talk... (show quote)




CA has its own plan--CalMed or something like that. They aren't going through the problems because it's not connected to obamacare. Actually, it's too bad ANY states went along with the obamacare plan, because then, maybe it would be scrapped for the crap it is. Don't you read???

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Oct 29, 2013 16:58:05   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Thank God all the governers didn't fall in arow. Now what's pathetic is getting coverage that you never use, doesn't contain what you do need and the price doubles with co-pays that are way out of line.


R****mequalslowIQ wrote:
I've heard more negative info coming from the talking heads in radio and TV than I have from people in the trenches. Calif has had success with the application process in regards to the Affordable Care Act, too bad all Governors/states were unwilling to be willing participants in this process. Of course the state officials have their insurance. So what do they care? They just want to send a statement to the Feds. And to heck with their constituents! It's pathetic! I would go to my physician, the one being dropped, and I would ask his opinion on what I should do next. He could possibly refer your wife to someone, in that regard I would trust the next MD because he was referred by my favorite MD. I'm not a willing participant in the blame game. You throw a roadblock in my path and I will go threw it, under it, over it it around it. One way or other I make it (the roadblock), irrelevant.
I've heard more negative info coming from the talk... (show quote)

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