othWill

I agree with the main concept. I disagree that money bought this situation. Our poli's left and right, are intimidated into doing what the council on foreign relations dictates under threat of exposure (financial wrong-doing, sexual immorality, etc.) or physical threats (friends and family, personal, etc.) Wealth offered to poli's in exchange for sticking us with bad legislation is only to sooth the broken conscience of the legislature, executive and sadly, even the scotus. This is the only logical answer to the question of why every poli lies to us on the campaign trail. ie "Mine will be the most t***sparent administration.", "(~)one trillion dollar deficit is not acceptable and can't be afforded". (RR admin ran deficit from 850B to over 3T in eight years). These men Meant what they said when the said it. They were Forced to do what the elites (Illuminati, tree-lateral commission, council on foreign relations, or what ever your flavor) demanded that our public servants commit against us.

This is why I see Harry Truman as our last great president. He was threatened, but he did what he thought was best. They made multiple attempts on his life, but he holed up in the oval office and did what he thought was best. Everyone has heard about the placard on his desk stating "The Buck Stops Here". That almost cost his life, three times. Yet still, he did what he thought was best. I also believe that the secret service is not for p**********l protection only but also to snitch him off to these elites. The above is the Only plausible scenario to explain why both parties run entirely different campaigns and yet do the same evil deeds to us. Politicians are by natural se******n, very clean in their personal lives or the press jumps all over them, destroying their career.

Every American sucking air Knows in their heart that this liberty and prosperity that we've enjoyed in the past is lost forever.

I can see no other reason for the bad actions of otherwise honest (even if mistaken) men to purposely destroy this country and it's citizens. The End (of this country, if not this age) is Near.

Richard Griffith

Until Corruption of our political system is addressed, and no one is above the laws, like our lame Congress, then it really does NOT MATTER who is President!!! the 1%ers control leaders of Europe/USA n other allies. They are the Puppet Masters n our leaders are the Puppets. We have become the United Stakes of Corporations/AmeriKa/District of Corruption/Home of the Depraved/Deprived n Degenerate!! The Late/Great USA is no longer exceptional!!! Putin, war criminal that he is, was right>the rest of the world views the USA as Exceptionally Stupid!!! Gov't shutdown was proof!!! This is NOT ur Grandaddy's America anymore!!! If the k**l the dollar/De-Americanize the dollar/k**l the electricity for more than 3 weeks, we will be running around k*****g each other for food n wind up in a Depression which will end America /WW3 unless we can control cyber-security n our power grids!!!

Richard Griffith

Wasn't Truman a Mason? 13 other Presidents were Masons/Woodrow Wilson started the Fed Reserve Act n the league of Nations/now the UN. Nixon took us off the gold standard. Masons rule/along with Queen Elizabeth/Bushes (they are N**i related) is why the NWO is taking CONTROL of USA/Europe. Which President used Atom Bomb? I believe he was also a Mason. Correct me if I am wrong!!

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

I disagree. I think the parties are not "for show only." I believe politicians are more or less sincere, more or less right and wrong, etc.

I think big money is too big in politics but not a conspiracy or anything that extreme.

The real problem is that everything has become so big and complicated that we individuals feel small and can't make sense of things and are frustrated and indignant. Those feelings don't help the situation.

othWill

You are absolutely correct on Harry Truman's masonic affiliation. He was 33rd degree. He also did what HE thought should be done as president. He had to hide to do it, but he actually did what he thought was right and would not bow to pressure from his elite contemporaries.

JFK was also very much a part of the elite power structure. When he was elected, he and his AG brother Bobby lived like Turks, complete with the attending immorality. He grew into his position and decided to use the treasury department to do it's job and get printing away from the privately held federal reserve system and back to the constitutionally mandated treasury. In doing so, he offended and enemized the international financiers.

He at the same time underestimated his opposition's boldness and it cost him his life.

Richard Griffith

Behind the scenes Congressmen get perks (for v****g for the Elites agenda) Some Bills really are legitimate until they get earmarked. How hard would it be, if they were really about doing right by people, to end all these unneccessary wars, balance the budget, stop giving away American tax payers money to over half of the worlds OTHER countries!!!! They do NOT even read the bills that become laws on the rest of us. They are insider traders that are apparently ABOVE the law. The Congressional Oversite Committee is supposed to oversee.investigate n discipline the Congress n can, in fact, with the Attorney Generals office put them in jail!!!! The Supreme Court (Bush vs Gore) e******n was bought by the elites!!! Oversight Committee is just as corrupt!! The highest levels of government is where the biggest crimes are committed!!! How many Corporate big whigs n bankers went to jail under the Bailouts/ for helping to cause the economic downturn? Tom Delay/Abramhof n some others are already out of jail. Ford pardons Nixon. Some Presidents get away with NOT following the Constitution. Lobbyists actually buy favors from state legislators, more so than federal, but influence peddling is at an all time high. Example> Repubs were against Affordable Care Act/Obummercare but some of them, along with Demos, bought stock in medical areas when they knew it would pass!!! If we could only follow the money, u would find out that most Congressmen are in it to enrich their own interests n most follow the Military Industrial Complex dictates>that's why we have wars>the Elites make money off BOTH sides of war!!! Masons illuminati/4th Reich/New World Order boys, along with the Bilderbergs Group, the Zion Jews (Rothschilds n Rockefellers n their prodigy), Vatican Jesuits/ the Royals n other European leaders are the ones pushing this NWO agenda. Tell me again, how u think our leaders are working toward our best interests? Remember, N**i Germany started out this way too!!!

othWill

A very compact, comprehensive, cogent post. Thank You.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Good grief. So much knowledge and such paranoia. The sets of posts on this site takes conspiracy theory to new heights! I had heard there were various conspiracy theories about Masons in the past but had no idea the narrative was still alive. And the conspiracy of Big Money, the Big Elites? I suppose Lincoln was also in this back in 1860s? And somehow Obama and Biden are now?

I happen to know specific circumstances about U.S.Grant and his backers in Galena and the specific connections to St. Louis "elites," (the founders), negotiators of Indian treaties in early 1800s and hosts to wandering Indians who were welcome to camp in lawn or library in 1870s, a descendant of one of those elites who was mayor of Chicago and promoter who put on the Columbian Exposition, the biggest event after the Civil War in the last half of the 19th century, family member who had financed the George Rogers Clark expedition that won the northwest (now the "midwest") in the 1776 Revolutionary War, connections to the Astors, a Wisc. governor who owned the flour industry in St.Paul/Minneapolis, etc., etc.--all associated with the historic house (National Register in 1981) I lived in for 35 years south of Shullsburg WI...and an "elite" with a record stretching from French Hugonots exiled by Louis XIV's Edict of Nantes to Chicago in the 1890s. I can assure you there was no single bit of Big Money or Elite conspiracy in any of these situations I know about through coincidental connections to Henry Gratiot, the builder of my rock house.

Really, you people dishonor yourself and America with such twisted narratives. We are in crisis of new bigness in economic structures and big government but conspiracy isn't part of the crisis. Start thinking reality. Really, the Martians haven't landed, and you shouldn't believe anyone who says so.