Well that explains alot...healthcare.gov (Page 2): It is true, you can not browse the options available without first giving all of your personal information (including your IP...

lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin

bmac32 wrote:

There is ZERO privacy, a statement buried that you can't print. The people are suppose to help receive no training and so far a handful have records. To me, anyone who would go there and just hand all the information to them is out of their mind.

It is true, you can not browse the options available without first giving all of your personal information (including your IP address, that is connected to your name). It is of course hidden within the Accept button. You can not do anything unless you accept.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

The except button was the first thing I headed for after I saw it wasn't posted out in site. They can not see my IP address as I use 'Hide My Ass', I figure then my provider can't even see me it must pretty well. The ToS is front and at the bottom now.

lone_ghost wrote:

It is true, you can not browse the options available without first giving all of your personal information (including your IP address, that is connected to your name). It is of course hidden within the Accept button. You can not do anything unless you accept.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

lone_ghost wrote:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/troubled-obamacare-website-wasnt-tested-until-a-week-before-launch/article/2537381

I spent more time testing my personal website before launching it.

I have zip technology sk**ls; however, have a great acquaintance with those who run their own systems engineering companies. When they heard it might be necessary to rewrite 5,000,000,000 lines of code, I thought we would have to perform CPR! :!:

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

lone_ghost wrote:

This is real simple, if it leaked out that the web... (show quote)

They may have access to the technology; however, the people designing and using the technology are not the cream, half and half, nor whole milk. They are one percent milk if that. By the way, word on the street is the companies who could fix this want NO part of working with HHS on this disaster.

JeffreyLowrie

What will happen is is the insurance companies will now HAVE to compete to attract ALL the new clients. They can no longer charge you what they want without showing the clients what they're paying for, both individuals and cafeteria/corporate plans. The influx of NEW clients will also create a demand for more doctors, nurses and techs of all types to keep up. More jobs for every sector, better economy.

just_sayin' Loc: Former United States of America

This is merely a precursor to the kind of quality we can expect from government-administered healthcare. If you didn't like our healthcare system before ACA, and actually believed government could make it better, you are going to be sadly disappointed. On the upside... I hear the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale - a real deal!

JeffreyLowrie

Why are you people continually saying, "government administered" when it's clearly coming from established medical insurance companies. The only thing that the government is doing is making said companies compete amongst themselves. That LOWERS the prices! Before the ACA they could charge a client anything they wanted cause they were stuck like Chuck with no remedy. Get out there and shop around, you'll find a GOOD cheap but excellent provider. Perhaps Blue Cross Blue Shield or Etna or Humana. These are all in the mix and there's new ones joining all the time. They want the money! After all, it's all about the money, just like the Republicans. I would not be surprised to find out that most are trying to find the right place to invest in!

just_sayin' Loc: Former United States of America

Okay, my mistake. I was assuming the IRS (the ones doling out the "subsidies" and handing down the fines) was part of the government. I have yet to see one example of "cheaper" premiums. The only thing I've seen is in some states rates staying the same for SOME groups. Most of the changes in premiums are steep increases. According to Forbes, the average increase is 24%.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/09/04/interactive-map-in-13-states-plus-d-c-individual-health-premiums-will-increase-by-an-average-of-24/

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Code writing is easy for someone who does it every day, the problems arise when you go to put it all together, like the old cartoons when they were building the rail road. Also a lot of that can be done with a preprogramed computer.

AuntiE wrote:

I have zip technology sk**ls; however, have a great acquaintance with those who run their own systems engineering companies. When they heard it might be necessary to rewrite 5,000,000,000 lines of code, I thought we would have to perform CPR! :!:

JeffreyLowrie

What you have there is close to 5 months old,with the new data(more insurance companies)added the rates,which the article relates to,have come down. I've read newer articles from Frobes that have a different slant which showes the rates are ,overall,lower than expected for a family of four.There's also data that showes the more people to enter into the ACA the cheaper it will become.Just as any cafeteria plan works the more signed up the cheaper if gets.Remember this thing is just getting started,there will be kinks , glitches and weird stuff happening as with anything new.I do know since it started ,back aways,my drug cost went from about 400.00$ a month to about 16.00$ for 90 days. I assume it's from the insurance company panicking and trying to find a way to keep it's clients happy.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Kinks, glitches, weird stuff how about the calulator didn't ever work? Calulators have been around in computer form since the early 70's. The underlying code is a mess and rather than try and patch it it needs to be rewriten. Then if the simply apply patches will it be somewhat secure, well the big software companies end up patching patches, will the government?

JeffreyLowrie wrote:

What you have there is close to 5 months old,with ... (show quote)

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

bmac32 wrote:

Code writing is easy for someone who does it every day, the problems arise when you go to put it all together, like the old cartoons when they were building the rail road. Also a lot of that can be done with a preprogramed computer.

Code writing is easy, perhaps. Rewriting somebody's disaster is somewhat different.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Fresh code is easy but even fixing your own screw up is a nightmare. One ^<?/ out of place changes the whole meaning. Even if a page works well will it work with other pages, sounds simple but it's not.

AuntiE wrote:

Code writing is easy, perhaps. Rewriting somebody's disaster is somewhat different.

JeffreyLowrie

Not just a simple calculator ,this one has to have thousands of variables for thousands of differant people .Yes it probably should have put put off for awhile to fix the software(I build PC's)but there are thousands of people who've gotten in and found what they're looking for.Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL2pySEg5p8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If you're looking keep trying it doesn't hurt to try .These people kept at it and got in and got a better deal.Just copy an paste the url above into your browser,let me know what's up later,okay?

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Have you looked at the code for ACA? I built computers for ten years mostly for people I worked with them played around with writing batch files which lead to HTML.

JeffreyLowrie wrote:

Not just a simple calculator ,this one has to have... (show quote)