Tea Party Beats IRS in Federal Court
http://wec1.teapartyinfo.org/t/12385715/383913163/291045/0/?e5e2987d=MTIzODU3MTU%3d&e5e2987d=MTIzODU3MTU%3d&x=4e45a126 Judges demand tax agency release secret target list immediately
(Washington Times) A federal appeals court spanked the IRS Tuesday, saying it has taken laws designed to protect taxpayers from the government and turned them on their head, using them to try to protect the tax agency from the very tea party groups it targeted.
The judges ordered the IRS to quickly turn over the full list of groups it targeted so that a class-action lawsuit, filed by the NorCal Tea Party Patriots, can proceed. The judges also accused the Justice Departmentlawyers, who are representing the IRS in the case, of acting in bad faith compounding the initial targeting by fighting the disclosure.
The lawyers in the Department of Justice have a long and storied tradition of defending the nations interests and enforcing its laws all of them, not just selective ones in a manner worthy of theDepartments name. The conduct of the IRSs attorneys in the district court falls outside that tradition, Judge Raymond Kethledge wrote in a unanimous opinion for a three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. We expect that the IRS will do better going forward.
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Even if it was unintentional, they targeted particular applications that seemed like they were political. They have to be a social welfare organization and can not ever, under any circumstances, support a particular political candidate. I know for sure, that the one around here had done that. The Tea Party here supported a state house democrat because she was against a t***sportation tax and that should be proof enough that they should not be tax-free status.
UncleJesse wrote:
Even if it was unintentional, they targeted particular applications that seemed like they were political. They have to be a social welfare organization and can not ever, under any circumstances, support a particular political candidate. I know for sure, that the one around here had done that. The Tea Party here supported a state house democrat because she was against a t***sportation tax and that should be proof enough that they should not be tax-free status.
There's no freakin' chance it was unintentional. And actually, they can support a candidate, or any candidate that follows their cause.
Freedom of speech and freedom to petition the government says that you may support a candidate without being targeted by the government.
This might be a small victory, and it may be way overdue, but I'll take it.
Super Dave wrote:
There's no freakin' chance it was unintentional. And actually, they can support a candidate, or any candidate that follows their cause.
Freedom of speech and freedom to petition the government says that you may support a candidate without being targeted by the government.
This might be a small victory, and it may be way overdue, but I'll take it.
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Super Dave wrote:
There's no freakin' chance it was unintentional. And actually, they can support a candidate, or any candidate that follows their cause.
Freedom of speech and freedom to petition the government says that you may support a candidate without being targeted by the government.
This might be a small victory, and it may be way overdue, but I'll take it.
Dave,
Do you think political organizations should all be tax exempt?
permafrost wrote:
Dave,
Do you think political organizations should all be tax exempt?
Almost every thing should be "tax Exempt"
Most taxes are a s**m to pick the pockets of the worker bees.
The income tax is misapplied to most Americans. A whole another subject.
BUT;
Those that set up that s**m have their foundations and Trusts in place to protect their wealth. Banksters and Politicians included.
Then there is the keeping of their "money" off shore.
Trump is the only one addressing any of that.
Very little so far.
permafrost wrote:
Dave,
Do you think political organizations should all be tax exempt?
Of course.
Free speech isn't free if it can be censored by taxation.
Super Dave wrote:
Of course.
Free speech isn't free if it can be censored by taxation.
Well that is an honest answer...
Could be good, but if all are in same bucket, any bucket, then it would not be censorship..\
I feel that all political organizations should be taxed to the hilt...
heck with them all....
I am sure the billionaires feel the same way. Not to mention all the free fluff pieces the MSM doles out to their favorite sons.
permafrost wrote:
Well that is an honest answer...
Could be good, but if all are in same bucket, any bucket, then it would not be censorship..\
I feel that all political organizations should be taxed to the hilt...
heck with them all....
permafrost wrote:
Well that is an honest answer...
Could be good, but if all are in same bucket, any bucket, then it would not be censorship..\
I feel that all political organizations should be taxed to the hilt...
heck with them all....
Do you think you should be taxed for making political posts?
BTW - The vast majority of my posts are honest, or openly sarcastic.
Super Dave wrote:
Do you think you should be taxed for making political posts?
BTW - The vast majority of my posts are honest, or openly sarcastic.
You ask the question wrong...
A political site exists because a number of people expect a gain from the activities of the site.. That equals profit..
So yes indeed, every political promotion site should be taxed. Regardless of party being promoted...
permafrost wrote:
You ask the question wrong...
A political site exists because a number of people expect a gain from the activities of the site.. That equals profit..
So yes indeed, every political promotion site should be taxed. Regardless of party being promoted...
No, I asked the question I wanted to ask.
Do you think you should be taxed for your political speech?
Like every Democrat I've ever met, you're fine with 'someone else' paying taxes... So how are you about paying them yourself?
If you want 'other people' to pay taxes to have political speech, then what makes you so special that you get to speak without being taxed?
Super Dave wrote:
No, I asked the question I wanted to ask.
Do you think you should be taxed for your political speech?
Like every Democrat I've ever met, you're fine with 'someone else' paying taxes... So how are you about paying them yourself?
If you want 'other people' to pay taxes to have political speech, then what makes you so special that you get to speak without being taxed?
If that is what you meant you are a dummy...
No, a persons speech should not be impeded let alone taxed..
But an organization which is in the biz of promoting any political viewpoint is not a person...citizen united be damned.
so I repeat.. political organization should be taxed to the max...
If they carry a name that denotes political POV, like tea party of Pennsylvania IE.. and apply for tax exempt status, they should expect and be ready for review and the need to defend the request..
And in the last, I pay mine, you better pay yours. you cheap MF...
permafrost wrote:
If that is what you meant you are a dummy...
No, a persons speech should not be impeded let alone taxed..
But an organization which is in the biz of promoting any political viewpoint is not a person...citizen united be damned.
so I repeat.. political organization should be taxed to the max...
If they carry a name that denotes political POV, like tea party of Pennsylvania IE.. and apply for tax exempt status, they should expect and be ready for review and the need to defend the request..
And in the last, I pay mine, you better pay yours. you cheap MF...
If that is what you meant you are a dummy... br b... (
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