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Mar 13, 2016 09:07:54   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Really? And who are these "wealthy and powerful rulers"? Give me their names.

You too are full of s**t.

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Here are the political left's wealthy and powerful rulers:
Jared Polis (D-CO) $74,000,000
Mark Warner (D-VA) $95,000,000
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)$108,000,000
John Delaney (D-MD) $112,000,000

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Mar 13, 2016 10:56:05   #
Artemis
 
Tasine wrote:
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Here are the political left's wealthy and powerful rulers:
Jared Polis (D-CO) $74,000,000
Mark Warner (D-VA) $95,000,000
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)$108,000,000
John Delaney (D-MD) $112,000,000




Aside from contributing money, what else have they actively done in their intentions to realign America to fit their agenda as the giant locomotion of the Koch brothers. let me give you an example:

The Koch brothers are two of the richest people in the world, they are key funders of the right-wing infrastructure,
including the:

American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)
State Policy Network (SPN) Koch Brothers,
Koch Industries,
DonorsTrust
Donors Capital
TC4 Trust



Below is a list of some of the present or past recipients of funding from the Koch's.

American Legislative Exchange Council (received a loan of $500,000 in 1996)[4]
Cato Institute
Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation
George Mason University
George Mason University Foundation, Inc.
Heritage Foundation
Institute for Justice
Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment
Reason Foundation
Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies
Institute for Humane Studies
Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy
Washington Legal Foundation
Capital Research Center
Competitive Enterprise Institute
Ethics and Public Policy Center, Inc.
National Center for Policy Analysis
Citizens for Congressional Reform Foundation
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, Inc.
Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
Political Economy Research Center, Inc.
Media Institute
National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship
University of Chicago
Defenders of Property Rights
University of Kansas Endowment Assocation
Texas Public Policy Foundation
Center for Individual Rights
Heartland Institute
Texas Justice Foundation
Institute for Policy Innovation
Center of the American Experiment
Atlas Economic Research Foundation
Young America's Foundation
Henry Hazlitt Foundation
Atlantic Legal Foundation
National Taxpayers Union Foundation
Families Against Mandatory Minimums
Philanthropy Roundtable
Free Enterprise Institute
John Locke Foundation
Hudson Institute, Inc.
Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
National Environmental Policy Institute
Washington University
Pacific Legal Foundation
American Council for Capital Formation
Institute for Political Economy
State Policy Network
Fraser Institute
Mackinac Center
Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation
Institute for Objectivist Studies
Americans for Prosperity Bill of Rights Institute
Mercatus Center


We have to consider the intention of this enormous highly organized, engine, who draws support under the magnetic construction of patriotic titles, such as:

Freedom Partners
Knowledge and Progress Fund
American Encore
Americans for Prosperity

This list shown here to simply show the mammoth size of their endeavors.

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Mar 13, 2016 11:24:39   #
northernlights
 
Glaucon wrote:
You have repeated the talking point of your wealthy and powerful rulers and it would be good if you could think rather than merely mouthing the approved talking points.


Much of the moral argument, is against the single woman, to demonize her as immoral, when in reality and never discussed is the married woman and husband who already have kids and definitely don't want anymore.

This is a personal moral issue, which the government may never take claim to, if it did we would be under some form of dictatorship.

The fear of having children within the single woman community may disperse if society continues to cease critical moral judgment upon them as in the past, leaving the woman more apt to accept having a child on her own. This stigma may also allow some woman to be openly pregnant and willing to give it up for adoption.

But I believe our focus should be in promoting prevention, through the different avenues such as the day after pill and not get caught up in the nano second of conception.

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Mar 13, 2016 11:31:08   #
Glaucon
 
northernlights wrote:
Much of the moral argument, is against the single woman, to demonize her as immoral, when in reality and never discussed is the married woman and husband who already have kids and definitely don't want anymore.

This is a personal moral issue, which the government may never take claim to, if it did we would be under some form of dictatorship.

The fear of having children within the single woman community may disperse if society continues to cease critical moral judgment upon them as in the past, leaving the woman more apt to accept having a child on her own. This stigma may also allow some woman to be openly pregnant and willing to give it up for adoption.

But I believe our focus should be in promoting prevention, through the different avenues such as the day after pill and not get caught up in the nano second of conception.
Much of the moral argument, is against the single ... (show quote)


Well thought out and rational rather than totally emotional.

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Mar 13, 2016 12:27:16   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Glaucon wrote:
The 400 most wealthy people in America are all billionaires plus. How about Bill Gates, the richest man in the world who is funding the promotion for the Common Core Curriculum that is being implemented in all K-12 schools In the U.S.? How about Roger Ailes who owns Faux "News"? If you don't know who calls the plays in our country, you should probably do more listening instead of talking.

I was about to ignore you because you are such a foul mouthed s**t head, but I am kind and pay some attention to the least of you.
The 400 most wealthy people in America are all bil... (show quote)


Actually as of 2015 there were 536 Billionaires in the USA more than twice as many as any other country with China following as number two. The beauty of capitalism. Isn't it amazing that the old worn out c*******t propaganda slogan, " redistribution of wealth" has gained such popularity amongst the ignorant? Pure Obamanism! Oh yes, this crap is being taught in schools now and is one of the reasons for the popularity of the youth v****g for the Marxist progressive atheistic hedonistic American mob. People like yourself.

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Mar 13, 2016 12:50:58   #
Anigav6969
 
northernlights wrote:
Much of the moral argument, is against the single woman, to demonize her as immoral, when in reality and never discussed is the married woman and husband who already have kids and definitely don't want anymore.

This is a personal moral issue, which the government may never take claim to, if it did we would be under some form of dictatorship.

The fear of having children within the single woman community may disperse if society continues to cease critical moral judgment upon them as in the past, leaving the woman more apt to accept having a child on her own. This stigma may also allow some woman to be openly pregnant and willing to give it up for adoption.

But I believe our focus should be in promoting prevention, through the different avenues such as the day after pill and not get caught up in the nano second of conception.
Much of the moral argument, is against the single ... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 13, 2016 13:06:35   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Artemis wrote:
Aside from contributing money, what else have they actively done in their intentions to realign America to fit their agenda as the giant locomotion of the Koch brothers. let me give you an example:

The Koch brothers are two of the richest people in the world, they are key funders of the right-wing infrastructure,
including the:

American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)
State Policy Network (SPN) Koch Brothers,
Koch Industries,
DonorsTrust
Donors Capital
TC4 Trust



Below is a list of some of the present or past recipients of funding from the Koch's.

American Legislative Exchange Council (received a loan of $500,000 in 1996)[4]
Cato Institute
Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation
George Mason University
George Mason University Foundation, Inc.
Heritage Foundation
Institute for Justice
Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment
Reason Foundation
Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies
Institute for Humane Studies
Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy
Washington Legal Foundation
Capital Research Center
Competitive Enterprise Institute
Ethics and Public Policy Center, Inc.
National Center for Policy Analysis
Citizens for Congressional Reform Foundation
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, Inc.
Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
Political Economy Research Center, Inc.
Media Institute
National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship
University of Chicago
Defenders of Property Rights
University of Kansas Endowment Assocation
Texas Public Policy Foundation
Center for Individual Rights
Heartland Institute
Texas Justice Foundation
Institute for Policy Innovation
Center of the American Experiment
Atlas Economic Research Foundation
Young America's Foundation
Henry Hazlitt Foundation
Atlantic Legal Foundation
National Taxpayers Union Foundation
Families Against Mandatory Minimums
Philanthropy Roundtable
Free Enterprise Institute
John Locke Foundation
Hudson Institute, Inc.
Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
National Environmental Policy Institute
Washington University
Pacific Legal Foundation
American Council for Capital Formation
Institute for Political Economy
State Policy Network
Fraser Institute
Mackinac Center
Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation
Institute for Objectivist Studies
Americans for Prosperity Bill of Rights Institute
Mercatus Center


We have to consider the intention of this enormous highly organized, engine, who draws support under the magnetic construction of patriotic titles, such as:

Freedom Partners
Knowledge and Progress Fund
American Encore
Americans for Prosperity

This list shown here to simply show the mammoth size of their endeavors.
Aside from contributing money, what else have they... (show quote)

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How do the private donations to dems compare to private donations to their donations to republicans?
And how do federal employee unions donations to dems compare to their donations to republicans?
How do all unions in the US donations to dems compare to their donations to republicans?

If I could dictate to our "government", I would disallow ALL DONATIONS TO ALL POLITICAL ENTITIES. THEY DON'T NEED DONATIONS IF THEY ARE SATISFYING THEIR CONSTITUENCY, AND IF THEY ARE NOT SATISFYING THEIR CONSTITUENCY, THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF OFFICE. But somewhere back long ago SOMEONE started buying officials, and the other side had to join in or our nation would have become a dictatorship. But, now we have no representative government as we are supposed to have, and we PAY them a fine salary with fine perks, and STILL have to pay them to run for e******ns then pay them to do every little thing we need or want. I'm sick and tired of it.

When a nation becomes as d********gly inept as ours has become, mostly because of money on ALL SIDES, the chances for it to right itself is practically nill.

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Mar 13, 2016 13:26:08   #
Artemis
 
Tasine wrote:
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How do the private donations to dems compare to private donations to their donations to republicans?
And how do federal employee unions donations to dems compare to their donations to republicans?
How do all unions in the US donations to dems compare to their donations to republicans?

If I could dictate to our "government", I would disallow ALL DONATIONS TO ALL POLITICAL ENTITIES. THEY DON'T NEED DONATIONS IF THEY ARE SATISFYING THEIR CONSTITUENCY, AND IF THEY ARE NOT SATISFYING THEIR CONSTITUENCY, THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF OFFICE. But somewhere back long ago SOMEONE started buying officials, and the other side had to join in or our nation would have become a dictatorship. But, now we have no representative government as we are supposed to have, and we PAY them a fine salary with fine perks, and STILL have to pay them to run for e******ns then pay them to do every little thing we need or want. I'm sick and tired of it.

When a nation becomes as d********gly inept as ours has become, mostly because of money on ALL SIDES, the chances for it to right itself is practically nill.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br How do the private ... (show quote)


Quite pessimistic Tas? For the most part we know what needs to be done, maybe the people need to step forward by proposing more bills to make these changes, as in some of the things discussed on this forum, as gerrymandering, lobbyists, limited terms, citizens united, etc.

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Mar 13, 2016 13:48:30   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Artemis wrote:
Quite pessimistic Tas? For the most part we know what needs to be done, maybe the people need to step forward by proposing more bills to make these changes, as in some of the things discussed on this forum, as gerrymandering, lobbyists, limited terms, citizens united, etc.

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One could safely say I am VERY pessimistic. Have watched our nation go from slowly disappearing to one fell swoop into total degradation and idiocy while one side cheers. It seems lots of citizens are happy our nation is falling into chaos and amorality. I am not one of the happy ones at this tragedy, and I don't think most are, but those who accept it are as guilty as those who produce the chaos.

Many people I know ARE doing what they can to turn things around. I have written up an entirely new way to do fair and equal campaigning without one red cent being given to any candidate but with a minimum of tax payer dollars given evenly to each candidate- no more,no less. I couldn't even get people here on OPP to give opinions. All they would offer is more "but, but, but". I think our e******ns are corrupted by politicians and their minions. I distrust the counting of b****ts. I distrust the media. I distrust most politicians. I think NOTHING IS GEARED TO HONEST E******NS. But why be pessimistic? It's only the once best nation in the world. Yep, why worry?

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Mar 13, 2016 16:03:21   #
Glaucon
 
padremike wrote:
Actually as of 2015 there were 536 Billionaires in the USA more than twice as many as any other country with China following as number two. The beauty of capitalism. Isn't it amazing that the old worn out c*******t propaganda slogan, " redistribution of wealth" has gained such popularity amongst the ignorant? Pure Obamanism! Oh yes, this crap is being taught in schools now and is one of the reasons for the popularity of the youth v****g for the Marxist progressive atheistic hedonistic American mob. People like yourself.
Actually as of 2015 there were 536 Billionaires in... (show quote)


It seems what you are trying not to notice is that our nation's wealth HAS ALREADY BEEN REDISTRIBUTED. You are a tool of the privileged and they may give you some crumbs for your fawning, groveling submissiveness. People like yourself.

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Mar 13, 2016 16:23:33   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Glaucon wrote:
It seems what you are trying not to notice is that our nation's wealth HAS ALREADY BEEN REDISTRIBUTED. You are a tool of the privileged and they may give you some crumbs for your fawning, groveling submissiveness. People like yourself.

And you appear to be one of the privileged few given the numerous times you've bragged about how well things are going for you.

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Mar 13, 2016 16:27:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Glaucon wrote:
It seems what you are trying not to notice is that our nation's wealth HAS ALREADY BEEN REDISTRIBUTED. You are a tool of the privileged and they may give you some crumbs for your fawning, groveling submissiveness. People like yourself.


That member on top of your shoulders , which is used only to keep your ears separated one from the other, fails to recognize that your Marxist friends have put more people on welfare, food stamps, etc, than any other time in our history paid for by those who work even if they work at minimum wage jobs. Those who have worked for their success and wealth did not steal it from anyone like the filthy lying Marxist atheist claim. I'm certainly not wealthy but every cent I ever made I worked for and earned.

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Mar 13, 2016 16:31:52   #
Glaucon
 
mwdegutis wrote:
And you appear to be one of the privileged few given the numerous times you've bragged about how well things are going for you.


Yes, I am. I was privileged not to be a whiner and to learn to play very successfully in the r****d game our economy has become. I don't brag, but I don't withhold facts, either.

I hope you can experience some success in your life so you can ease up on your attacks on me and spend more of your time doing something less ego defensive and more effective in getting you wh**ever it is you want.

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Mar 13, 2016 16:37:02   #
Glaucon
 
padremike wrote:
That member on top of your shoulders , which is used only to keep your ears separated one from the other, fails to recognize that your Marxist friends have put more people on welfare, food stamps, etc, than any other time in our history paid for by those who work even if they work at minimum wage jobs. Those who have worked for their success and wealth did not steal it from anyone like the filthy lying Marxist atheist claim. I'm certainly not wealthy but every cent I ever made I worked for and earned.
That member on top of your shoulders , which is us... (show quote)


Your fantasy is mostly made up of factoids and insults.

It must be difficult to have the pain in your back from keeping your head in that dark, moist, smelly place.

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Mar 13, 2016 16:42:55   #
Glaucon
 
padremike wrote:
That member on top of your shoulders , which is used only to keep your ears separated one from the other, fails to recognize that your Marxist friends have put more people on welfare, food stamps, etc, than any other time in our history paid for by those who work even if they work at minimum wage jobs. Those who have worked for their success and wealth did not steal it from anyone like the filthy lying Marxist atheist claim. I'm certainly not wealthy but every cent I ever made I worked for and earned.
That member on top of your shoulders , which is us... (show quote)


You should strive to keep your member on your shoulders and not up your ass.

How do you manage to avoid so much information and collect so much misinformation?

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