Thank you for quoting from the OT. Now we may be able to have an intelligent, rational conversation. Deuteronomy 13:1-5. "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder. And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them: Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet...And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death..." To be a true prophet of God, he has to be 100% correct. Jesus said the end and second coming would come within the lifetime of his disciples. He was wrong. This is how someone becomes a prophet: Numbers 12:6. "...If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream". I had a vision (waking dream) of my own death and I consider myself a prophet. I also believe I will have a dream before VWD Day comes.

Jesus spoke of two different events; the 1st was the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple; the 2nd was the end of the world and the judgment.

Sort them out and you will see a difference.
Begin in Mathew 24 and end with verses 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Then begin where Jesus starts a new subject, about "THAT HOUR..."
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The first part ends when Jesus says "These things will happen before this generation passes."

Everything after that is about the end of the world and the 2nd coming of Christ in judgment.

If this needs more clarification, lets have a dialogue...

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.