Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

There has been some chatter on several boards questioning why Islam is so filled with anger, and why it seems to translate into hate for everyone not Muslim.

For those who don't know.....

When God promised Abraham he would be the father of many nations, he at that time, had no children; so Sarah, his wife, "loaned" him her handmaid, Hagar, through whom Abraham begot a child, Ishmael.

Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, and by all expectation, looked forward to enjoying his birthright inheritance; a double portion for the eldest.

But God had told Abraham he would become a Father of many nations, and would also be a blessing through his seed. God intended the promise to fulfill through Messiah, but Ishmael knew nothing of such things.

Upon reaching his teen years, Ishmael made the mistake of teasing much younger baby brother, Isaac, in the open where Sarah saw it, and demanded Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, Sarah's handmaid, Hagar.

It broke Abraham's heart, because he loved his sons. But Sarah ruled the roost when it came to the children. So Abraham sent Hagar into the desert with her son. They nearly perished for lack of water, food, and experience in survival techniques.

God showed Hagar where there was water, and promised her son would become a leader in his own right. He became the progenitor of twelve princes of Arabia.

When life continued, and Isaac was blessed with the birthright, Ishmael blew a proverbial gasket at the unfairness of it, and his descendants have hated the descendants of Isaac ever since that time.

And the hatred continues against all Judeo/Christians as well. And THAT is not going to change.

But it might help to know what you are facing, and why.

susanblange Loc: USA

Muslims and Jews serve the same God and they are the only two monotheistic religions in the world. Christians claim to also worship one God but their beliefs are contradictive. They claim three persons in one God but if that is true, their god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. Both Jews and Muslims believe in the coming of a redeemer in the end of days. This person is called "Messiah" by Jews, and "Mahdi" by Muslims. Hindus and Buddhists share this belief. Christianity is the only religion that has a negative view of this person, and call him "Antichrist". He will bring righteousness and everlasting peace to the earth and will unite the righteous of all faiths against the wicked of all faiths.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Not quite -
John 16:2 They shall put you out of the (Church)(Temple) synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.



Agreed. The "Scholars" need to butt out when it comes to the scriptures, which were designed for the unlearned and ignorant, of whom I am chief.



Missed it by a light year. "AntiChrist" is any person that denies Christ lives in the body of the saint today, when that saint conforms to the image of God's son (Messiah),



I don't know what "Righteous of all faiths" is a reference to.

If it doesn't matter what your faith is focused in, why does it matter that you have faith in anything?

susanblange Loc: USA

God does not view the world as male/female, black/white, Jew/Gentile. God views the world as wicked/righteous and both of those come in all races, creeds, and colors. Only righteousness delivers from death and the righteous meek will inherit the earth and take part in the resurrection with the Lord. Zechariah 14:5.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

And Zechariah says nothing about all men being saints of God - He says all the saints will come with God when He comes.

Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

And Paul identifies the saints of God as those who are sanctified in Jesus Christ, and "call upon the name of Jesus Christ or Lord." - 1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

And John tells us the saints are those who keep the faith of Jesus Christ - Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

susanblange Loc: USA

There is more to righteousness than belief in the one true God. Right now, it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are. The saints of Jesus are not the same as the saints of God. I am not a Christian and I serve the living God of Israel. Jesus is dead. If he had risen from the dead, he would be here.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Of course they are. Are you not familiar with the scriptures? God gave his children of the covenant to Messiah to serve as signs and wonders in Israel. Did you ignore those signs and wonders? Did you fail to acknowledge them?

Isaiah 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.

This is why the child of prophecy "shall be called...The Everlasitng Father"
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Heb 2:13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.



He IS here, in the flesh lf those saints who have conformed o the image of God's dear son. Those who deny this are the ones that are called "AntiChrist."

susanblange Loc: USA

Daniel 7:15-28. Some Catholics have been canonized and are called "saints". Simply being a Christian is a strike against them. The Messiah is symbolically called a "little horn" and he will "speak great words against the most High and shall wear out the saints of the most High". Then the scripture says, "judgment was given to the saints of the most High". This chapter and paragraph is confusing and it's meant not to be understood until it happens and is fulfilled.

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

True that, right from the Word of God.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

That's a strike against them for having a Pope who thinks he knows more than God. It is a power grab by Men who set themselves above their fellows and pretend to have power they do not have. No "Saint" was ever "canonized" in scripture. The first documented case of such nonsense was 973 a.d. It was begun for the purpose of making the members of laity and clergy curry favor with their betters.

There was never any "ecclesiastical Authority" bestowed upon a clergy, over a laity other than in the minds of men, until the Bishops made it happen.



You keep mixing Messiah and Satan. How is that working out for you?

susanblange Loc: USA

Actually the Messiah and Satan are mixed up in the bible, primarily in the book of Daniel. I think this is mainly to give Christians a foothold in the scriptures. If they were crystal clear, Christianity would not exist. God has a plan for the world and it includes killing all of the wicked.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Care to demonstrate with references and comment?

susanblange Loc: USA

The second Day of the Lord is what I call "Judgment Day". 97% of earth's inhabitants will be cut off by fire. Isaiah 24:6. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". A few is three, but I think it means 3%. There will be two other judgments by fire. First, VWD Day. It stands for Vengeance, Wrath, and Destruction. All of the enemies of the Lord/Messiah will be set on fire. Psalm 37:20, Psalm 97:3. The third Day of the Lord is the resurrection and all remaining "unbelievers"/idolaters will spontaneously combust. Zechariah 14:12. At the end, when all the wicked have been cut off, salvation will come down to belief. Joel 2:32.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

O.K. You have Messiah's ENEMIES set on fire, not Messiah.

Messiah is the anointed of God -
GOD MADE JESUS BOTH LORD AND CHRIST
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and
Christ.

JESUS IS THEREFORE "GOD THE LORD'S CHRIST"
Luke 2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

Luke 9:20 He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.
Τον Χριστον Του
Θεου

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:

η Βασιλεια Του
Θεου ημων και
η εξουσια Του
Χριστου αυτου

susanblange Loc: USA

I am not a Christian, and I do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. In the near future, when the Christians execute the real Messiah, they will burn his body on the altar as a lamb for a sin offering. Isaiah 53:7, 10. Daniel 7:11. Jesus has been reincarnated, and shortly after this he will also burst into flames. Ezekiel 28:18-19. Jesus is a false prophet and a false messiah.