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Feb 8, 2016 06:14:00   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
This is an actual example from my daughter who is taking a college course. She has been assigned to do a project with two other young women.

Young woman one: Did not turn in anything for assignment one.

Young woman two: This is what she turned in for assignment one -
"This is what globalization is: and then she lists a web site for the professor to visit"
She goes on to fill out the page in that same manner.

My daughter works for A's, and if she has any hope of passing this class - she'll have to do the entire project alone. I'm encouraging her to drop the class and let these two flunkies fail, or sadly be paired up with another patsy.

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Feb 8, 2016 07:46:17   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
BearK wrote:
This is an actual example from my daughter who is taking a college course. She has been assigned to do a project with two other young women.

Young woman one: Did not turn in anything for assignment one.

Young woman two: This is what she turned in for assignment one -
"This is what globalization is: and then she lists a web site for the professor to visit"
She goes on to fill out the page in that same manner.

My daughter works for A's, and if she has any hope of passing this class - she'll have to do the entire project alone. I'm encouraging her to drop the class and let these two flunkies fail, or sadly be paired up with another patsy.
This is an actual example from my daughter who is ... (show quote)


I remember when a college education was worth something.

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Feb 8, 2016 09:47:05   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
BearK wrote:
This is an actual example from my daughter who is taking a college course. She has been assigned to do a project with two other young women.

Young woman one: Did not turn in anything for assignment one.

Young woman two: This is what she turned in for assignment one -
"This is what globalization is: and then she lists a web site for the professor to visit"
She goes on to fill out the page in that same manner.

My daughter works for A's, and if she has any hope of passing this class - she'll have to do the entire project alone. I'm encouraging her to drop the class and let these two flunkies fail, or sadly be paired up with another patsy.
This is an actual example from my daughter who is ... (show quote)




Well, they are teaching them so that they can make a lot of money without doing much, ah, you know - work - so it looks like they started teaching the rewards before teaching the method of obtaining them. Young people are so impatient.

Oh! BTW, did you hear about those "experts", that say that schooling is obsolete? They claim that since everything anyone knows is available on the internet, anything you need to know is a finger tip away. My response was - where do I find the website that will tell me how to invent new technologies or find the cure for cancer? So far - I haven't heard back from them with that info. :roll:

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Feb 8, 2016 15:11:10   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Well, they are teaching them so that they can make a lot of money without doing much, ah, you know - work - so it looks like they started teaching the rewards before teaching the method of obtaining them. Young people are so impatient.

Oh! BTW, did you hear about those "experts", that say that schooling is obsolete? They claim that since everything anyone knows is available on the internet, anything you need to know is a finger tip away. My response was - where do I find the website that will tell me how to invent new technologies or find the cure for cancer? So far - I haven't heard back from them with that info. :roll:
Well, they are teaching them so that they can make... (show quote)


Don't hold your breath expecting to hear back.

Next big thing - I'm just supposing here, I don't claim to know, but thinking back to Natzi Germany - they will want to house your children so they can brainwash - oops - educated them day and night. It will take the burden off of the parents so they can both work at an assigned job.

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Feb 8, 2016 15:17:18   #
S. Maturin
 
This topic I will call 'Lifting the scab' .. why? Well, because I have had the good fortune to actually have been gifted with a demanding and fairly thorough education and I am watching my grandchildren mush through the cesspools called college curricula today. Colleges like Cornell. :shock:

For instance: I know the difference between 'few' and 'less'.
I know when to use 'Their', There', and 'they're'.
I also can do some fairly complex math without the assistance of a computer.
I can write a complete sentence and spell words correctly (most) without *spell check*.
Colleges of late are nothing more or less- on the whole- than instruments of indoctrination in the hands of the least knowledgeable creatures ever- professors -(!) most of whom have never felt their little moccasins touch mother earth.

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Feb 8, 2016 15:44:50   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
S. Maturin wrote:
This topic I will call 'Lifting the scab' .. why? Well, because I have had the good fortune to actually have been gifted with a demanding and fairly thorough education and I am watching my grandchildren mush through the cesspools called college curricula today. Colleges like Cornell. :shock:

For instance: I know the difference between 'few' and 'less'.
I know when to use 'Their', There', and 'they're'.
I also can do some fairly complex math without the assistance of a computer.
I can write a complete sentence and spell words correctly (most) without *spell check*.
Colleges of late are nothing more or less- on the whole- than instruments of indoctrination in the hands of the least knowledgeable creatures ever- professors -(!) most of whom have never felt their little moccasins touch mother earth.
This topic I will call 'Lifting the scab' .. why? ... (show quote)


Yes, and they keep raising the tuition to pay the know little professors more, or so they can build a bigger work-out center for staff and students. Pray tell, how does a work-out center increase their knowledge?

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Feb 8, 2016 15:56:29   #
S. Maturin
 
BearK wrote:
Yes, and they keep raising the tuition to pay the know little professors more, or so they can build a bigger work-out center for staff and students. Pray tell, how does a work-out center increase their knowledge?

Well, isn't the extravagant expense of higher edumacation exactly in line with the elite socialist/democrat program?
Sure it is. There is a certain drive for solidification of a class (KLASS) system which the left socialist regime really, really wants to succeed, so the young are their 'special' targets.

WE MUST NOT LET THOSE BEASTS SUCCEED IN THAT!

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Feb 8, 2016 16:43:22   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Well, isn't the extravagant expense of higher edumacation exactly in line with the elite socialist/democrat program?
Sure it is. There is a certain drive for solidification of a class (KLASS) system which the left socialist regime really, really wants to succeed, so the young are their 'special' targets.

WE MUST NOT LET THOSE BEASTS SUCCEED IN THAT!




We let this happen, because we're intimidated or impressed by names followed by the alphabet and "assume" they are experts - so don't question them. I always chuckle when dealing with "early childhood educators", that bill themselves as "experts", who have never raised a child - or taught one for any length of time. There is a world of difference between expertise in a field and education in a field - and those are NOT the same thing. A PHD, does not confer immediate expertise, it merely denotes that one has reached the highest degree possible in academia.

Experience can only come from applying what one has learned in school, in the field, doing the actual work, where one finds out the difference between theory and practice. There are only two places where the educators write their own textbooks - colleges/universities - and Scotty for Star Fleet ( reference the NG "Dyson Sphere" episode, where Scotty is rescued after 75 years ).

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Feb 9, 2016 07:47:58   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We let this happen, because we're intimidated or impressed by names followed by the alphabet and "assume" they are experts - so don't question them. I always chuckle when dealing with "early childhood educators", that bill themselves as "experts", who have never raised a child - or taught one for any length of time. There is a world of difference between expertise in a field and education in a field - and those are NOT the same thing. A PHD, does not confer immediate expertise, it merely denotes that one has reached the highest degree possible in academia.

Experience can only come from applying what one has learned in school, in the field, doing the actual work, where one finds out the difference between theory and practice. There are only two places where the educators write their own textbooks - colleges/universities - and Scotty for Star Fleet ( reference the NG "Dyson Sphere" episode, where Scotty is rescued after 75 years ).
We let this happen, because we're intimidated or i... (show quote)


It's a sad fact that these educators know what's in the books, but few if any have actual experience in the real world. They appear to live in the fantasy land of an utopian paradise that has actually generated more deaths and misery than success and happiness.

Thirty years ago, we met a retired couple, who had sent their two sons to the University of Wisconsin, Madison. He said, "every time the boys came home, he would 'de-program' them. This has been going on for years, and we as parents, have not taken the initiative to 'de-program.' We've been too busy making a living to give our children an easy life that now they have come to expect the world OWES them -i.e. Sanders popularity among the millennials.

Rules from the Alinsky play book - don't let them figure out what you're doing or they will rebel - we're finding out, hopefully not too late.

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Feb 9, 2016 08:54:03   #
S. Maturin
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We let this happen, because we're intimidated or impressed by names followed by the alphabet and "assume" they are experts - so don't question them. I always chuckle when dealing with "early childhood educators", that bill themselves as "experts", who have never raised a child - or taught one for any length of time. There is a world of difference between expertise in a field and education in a field - and those are NOT the same thing. A PHD, does not confer immediate expertise, it merely denotes that one has reached the highest degree possible in academia.

Experience can only come from applying what one has learned in school, in the field, doing the actual work, where one finds out the difference between theory and practice. There are only two places where the educators write their own textbooks - colleges/universities - and Scotty for Star Fleet ( reference the NG "Dyson Sphere" episode, where Scotty is rescued after 75 years ).
We let this happen, because we're intimidated or i... (show quote)


Well stated. I agree totally with you that in child rearing, absolutely nothing else will do for the parent figure than experience-- nothing.
As for out professors who publish and require students to buy their ramblings, they are a freak of the times. Our society seems to be enthralled by those limpid, isolated, tunnel-visioned critters who can be said to harken back to the Ouroboros.

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Feb 9, 2016 12:55:06   #
boatbob2
 
My wife and I are both university graduates,my 3 daughters are college graduates,Thank god,They are all RN s,College today,to me,is a waste of time and money.todays students are brainwashed moronic i***ts.

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Feb 9, 2016 13:49:10   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
BearK wrote:
It's a sad fact that these educators know what's in the books, but few if any have actual experience in the real world. They appear to live in the fantasy land of an utopian paradise that has actually generated more deaths and misery than success and happiness.

Thirty years ago, we met a retired couple, who had sent their two sons to the University of Wisconsin, Madison. He said, "every time the boys came home, he would 'de-program' them. This has been going on for years, and we as parents, have not taken the initiative to 'de-program.' We've been too busy making a living to give our children an easy life that now they have come to expect the world OWES them -i.e. Sanders popularity among the millennials.

Rules from the Alinsky play book - don't let them figure out what you're doing or they will rebel - we're finding out, hopefully not too late.
It's a sad fact that these educators know what's i... (show quote)


I can attest to what you are saying. While in a electrical apprentice program we had one guy that aced almost all of the tests during our four years. But on the same job, as I was, he could not even hook up a 3 way switch. There were also other things we had in class that he did not have the ability to understand how to overcome a problem we faced in the field.

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Feb 9, 2016 14:10:22   #
boatbob2
 
I agree,book learning,is one thing,doing the work,is something totally different.

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Feb 9, 2016 20:06:58   #
DamnYANKEE
 
BearK wrote:
This is an actual example from my daughter who is taking a college course. She has been assigned to do a project with two other young women.

Young woman one: Did not turn in anything for assignment one.

Young woman two: This is what she turned in for assignment one -
"This is what globalization is: and then she lists a web site for the professor to visit"
She goes on to fill out the page in that same manner.

My daughter works for A's, and if she has any hope of passing this class - she'll have to do the entire project alone. I'm encouraging her to drop the class and let these two flunkies fail, or sadly be paired up with another patsy.
This is an actual example from my daughter who is ... (show quote)


whats the Class ??? Id Quit too .

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Feb 9, 2016 20:08:21   #
DamnYANKEE
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
I remember when a college education was worth something.


them Days are LOOOONG gone . Edumacated I***TS are a Dime a Dozen . More so now than ever before

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