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Jan 25, 2016 07:21:34   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
by Nelson Hultberg
(all emphasis added by Tasine)
Most Americans believe that we won the fight against C*******m when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 and Khrushchev's famous boast that they would bury us proved to be empty. Not so. C*******m is a monster of two guises. There is Marxist-Leninism and there is Gramsciism from Antonio Gramsci, an Italian c*******t thinker who broke with Marx and Lenin in the 1920s. The former preaches the violent o*******w of capitalism; the latter preaches the subtle subversion of capitalism and its ultimate t***sformation into tyrannical "mega-statism" over time.

In 1991, revolutionary Marxist-Leninism died, but gradualist Gramsciism still vigorously thrives. In fact one of its main proponents sits in the White House right now, and another proponent is trying to get elected so she can sit there also. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are two nefariously talented advocates of Gramsci's gradualist socialism. Gramsci understood that the workers would never revolt as Marx and Lenin preached until the fundamental philosophical values that supported capitalism and freedom had been destroyed in the workers' minds via ideological indoctrination. Individualism, personal industry, family solidarity, monogamy, private property, patriotism, belief in a Creator God, etc. had to be discredited through education. Then, and only then, could the system of free-enterprise be demolished and replaced with the "c*******t ideal."

Obama and Clinton learned their lessons from one of Gramsci's top disciples, Saul Alinsky, the famous author of Rules for Radicals published in 1972. Alinsky's screed is a revolutionary lesson in how to organize masses of men and women to h**e the system of capitalist freedom, to take it down and replace it with a regimented collectivist system that centralizes government and levels down the productive classes to e******y with the less productive classes.

Radical Gradualism

The history of America for the past 100 years has been that of implementing Marx's C*******t Manifesto gradually rather than violently. Progressive taxation, centralization of credit and banking, and centralization of schools under government dictates are three of his ten planks that are already solidified in America. Abolition of the right of inheritance and centralization of the means of communication are steadily gaining ground among the people. These five planks are sufficient to bring about the ultimate destruction of capitalist freedom. Gramsci's and Alinsky's vision of gradualist socialism is making great strides.

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky teaches that true radicals do not flaunt their radicalism. They are infiltrators. They fight from within, slowly, patiently. Their goal is to deconstruct the foundation of values taught by the established institutions of capitalist freedom, to organize communities by agitation and teach them they have the right to seize the wealth of the productive classes because as Marx demonstrated via his "labor theory of value," their profits were stolen from the laboring classes. [Marx's labor theory of value is a gross fallacy, but that's another discussion for another day.]

Is not Barack Obama the perfect embodiment of an Alinsky radical? "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen," he told us in 2012. Like all collectivists, he believes that capitalism is evil incarnate and that government is more responsible for our economic productivity and enterprise than we as individuals are.

Is not Hillary Clinton of the same Alinsky mold? "Don't let anybody...tell you," she told us in a campaign speech earlier this year, "that it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly." In her mind, capitalism must be t***sformed, and gradualist socialism is the way to do it.

Both Obama and Clinton studied Alinsky in their youth. Obama eagerly taught his organizing methods in Chicago for several years before he ran for political office. Clinton wrote her senior political science thesis at Wellesley College on Saul Alinsky's model for political organization and deconstruction, and then personally corresponded with him for several years afterwards. Alinsky and his mentor, Gramsci, have been hugely influential in both of these politicians' ideological / activist development.

Thus when Obama does something seemingly irrational and counter to America's system of freedom, he is doing it on purpose. The primary goal of all Alinsky disciples is to "deconstruct" the system of capitalist freedom, which they perceive as oppressive and inhumane. This "deconstruction" is to take place by any means necessary, which the deconstructor thinks he or she can get away with.

Alinsky was a total "moral relativist." He preached that one's means must always be judged within the context of one's time and situation. "You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments," he writes in Rules for Radicals. All ethics are dependent solely upon success of the purpose that one's means are being employed toward. This, of course, leads to the justifiable use of force, theft, bribery, mendacity, even murder to bring about that purpose.

We are involved in a monumental war of ideas. It is a war that is far more powerful than those of bombs and rifles. The conflict we face today is a war between advocates of collectivist totalitarianism and individualist capitalism. The former manifests in the ideologies of c*******m, socialism, f*****m, Islamism. The latter manifested in the vision of Jefferson and the Founders in 1776. It built the greatest and freest way of life in the history of mankind. But lurking in the souls of many humans is a hatred of freedom and its requisites of self-reliance, courage and creativity. Philosopher Ayn Rand called this "hatred of the good for being the good."

This hatred of freedom is the real motive behind all collectivisms, all totalitarianisms I believe that the Alinskys, Obamas, and Clintons of life have a built-in animosity toward freedom prevailing in their makeups from birth. If this predisposition is countered with teachings of political-economic rationality and moral probity in one's youth, it will lie dormant and not cause any problems. But when it is mixed with the teachings of collectivist philosophers in one's youth, it springs forth in justifications for massive governmentalism. It spawns Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Fabians, welfarists, nihilists, etc. who then proceed to deconstruct the institutions of freedom in any way they can throughout their lives.

The enemies of freedom have a totally different value system than those who defend freedom. Values lie in the province of the mind and heart. Thus the real battlegrounds of life are not the Vietnams, the deserts of the Middle East, and the Normandy beaches. They are the schoolrooms, the churches, the publishing houses, the movie studios. Ideas move the world. In the beginning was the word, i.e., the t***h. Collectivist hatred is bent on replacing that "t***h" with a regimented life for humanity.
http://afr.org/saul-alinskys-radical-spawn/





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Jan 25, 2016 07:26:11   #
Liberty Tree
 
Tasine wrote:
by Nelson Hultberg
(all emphasis added by Tasine)
Most Americans believe that we won the fight against C*******m when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 and Khrushchev's famous boast that they would bury us proved to be empty. Not so. C*******m is a monster of two guises. There is Marxist-Leninism and there is Gramsciism from Antonio Gramsci, an Italian c*******t thinker who broke with Marx and Lenin in the 1920s. The former preaches the violent o*******w of capitalism; the latter preaches the subtle subversion of capitalism and its ultimate t***sformation into tyrannical "mega-statism" over time.

In 1991, revolutionary Marxist-Leninism died, but gradualist Gramsciism still vigorously thrives. In fact one of its main proponents sits in the White House right now, and another proponent is trying to get elected so she can sit there also. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are two nefariously talented advocates of Gramsci's gradualist socialism. Gramsci understood that the workers would never revolt as Marx and Lenin preached until the fundamental philosophical values that supported capitalism and freedom had been destroyed in the workers' minds via ideological indoctrination. Individualism, personal industry, family solidarity, monogamy, private property, patriotism, belief in a Creator God, etc. had to be discredited through education. Then, and only then, could the system of free-enterprise be demolished and replaced with the "c*******t ideal."

Obama and Clinton learned their lessons from one of Gramsci's top disciples, Saul Alinsky, the famous author of Rules for Radicals published in 1972. Alinsky's screed is a revolutionary lesson in how to organize masses of men and women to h**e the system of capitalist freedom, to take it down and replace it with a regimented collectivist system that centralizes government and levels down the productive classes to e******y with the less productive classes.

Radical Gradualism

The history of America for the past 100 years has been that of implementing Marx's C*******t Manifesto gradually rather than violently. Progressive taxation, centralization of credit and banking, and centralization of schools under government dictates are three of his ten planks that are already solidified in America. Abolition of the right of inheritance and centralization of the means of communication are steadily gaining ground among the people. These five planks are sufficient to bring about the ultimate destruction of capitalist freedom. Gramsci's and Alinsky's vision of gradualist socialism is making great strides.

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky teaches that true radicals do not flaunt their radicalism. They are infiltrators. They fight from within, slowly, patiently. Their goal is to deconstruct the foundation of values taught by the established institutions of capitalist freedom, to organize communities by agitation and teach them they have the right to seize the wealth of the productive classes because as Marx demonstrated via his "labor theory of value," their profits were stolen from the laboring classes. [Marx's labor theory of value is a gross fallacy, but that's another discussion for another day.]

Is not Barack Obama the perfect embodiment of an Alinsky radical? "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen," he told us in 2012. Like all collectivists, he believes that capitalism is evil incarnate and that government is more responsible for our economic productivity and enterprise than we as individuals are.

Is not Hillary Clinton of the same Alinsky mold? "Don't let anybody...tell you," she told us in a campaign speech earlier this year, "that it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly." In her mind, capitalism must be t***sformed, and gradualist socialism is the way to do it.

Both Obama and Clinton studied Alinsky in their youth. Obama eagerly taught his organizing methods in Chicago for several years before he ran for political office. Clinton wrote her senior political science thesis at Wellesley College on Saul Alinsky's model for political organization and deconstruction, and then personally corresponded with him for several years afterwards. Alinsky and his mentor, Gramsci, have been hugely influential in both of these politicians' ideological / activist development.

Thus when Obama does something seemingly irrational and counter to America's system of freedom, he is doing it on purpose. The primary goal of all Alinsky disciples is to "deconstruct" the system of capitalist freedom, which they perceive as oppressive and inhumane. This "deconstruction" is to take place by any means necessary, which the deconstructor thinks he or she can get away with.

Alinsky was a total "moral relativist." He preached that one's means must always be judged within the context of one's time and situation. "You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments," he writes in Rules for Radicals. All ethics are dependent solely upon success of the purpose that one's means are being employed toward. This, of course, leads to the justifiable use of force, theft, bribery, mendacity, even murder to bring about that purpose.

We are involved in a monumental war of ideas. It is a war that is far more powerful than those of bombs and rifles. The conflict we face today is a war between advocates of collectivist totalitarianism and individualist capitalism. The former manifests in the ideologies of c*******m, socialism, f*****m, Islamism. The latter manifested in the vision of Jefferson and the Founders in 1776. It built the greatest and freest way of life in the history of mankind. But lurking in the souls of many humans is a hatred of freedom and its requisites of self-reliance, courage and creativity. Philosopher Ayn Rand called this "hatred of the good for being the good."

This hatred of freedom is the real motive behind all collectivisms, all totalitarianisms I believe that the Alinskys, Obamas, and Clintons of life have a built-in animosity toward freedom prevailing in their makeups from birth. If this predisposition is countered with teachings of political-economic rationality and moral probity in one's youth, it will lie dormant and not cause any problems. But when it is mixed with the teachings of collectivist philosophers in one's youth, it springs forth in justifications for massive governmentalism. It spawns Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Fabians, welfarists, nihilists, etc. who then proceed to deconstruct the institutions of freedom in any way they can throughout their lives.

The enemies of freedom have a totally different value system than those who defend freedom. Values lie in the province of the mind and heart. Thus the real battlegrounds of life are not the Vietnams, the deserts of the Middle East, and the Normandy beaches. They are the schoolrooms, the churches, the publishing houses, the movie studios. Ideas move the world. In the beginning was the word, i.e., the t***h. Collectivist hatred is bent on replacing that "t***h" with a regimented life for humanity.
http://afr.org/saul-alinskys-radical-spawn/
by Nelson Hultberg br (all emphasis added by Tasin... (show quote)


No one can truly understand Obama or Hillary without reading "Rules For Radicals" and "The C*******t Manifesto".

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Jan 25, 2016 07:33:37   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Tasine wrote:
by Nelson Hultberg
(all emphasis added by Tasine)
Most Americans believe that we won the fight against C*******m when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 and Khrushchev's famous boast that they would bury us proved to be empty. Not so. C*******m is a monster of two guises. There is Marxist-Leninism and there is Gramsciism from Antonio Gramsci, an Italian c*******t thinker who broke with Marx and Lenin in the 1920s. The former preaches the violent o*******w of capitalism; the latter preaches the subtle subversion of capitalism and its ultimate t***sformation into tyrannical "mega-statism" over time.

In 1991, revolutionary Marxist-Leninism died, but gradualist Gramsciism still vigorously thrives. In fact one of its main proponents sits in the White House right now, and another proponent is trying to get elected so she can sit there also. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are two nefariously talented advocates of Gramsci's gradualist socialism. Gramsci understood that the workers would never revolt as Marx and Lenin preached until the fundamental philosophical values that supported capitalism and freedom had been destroyed in the workers' minds via ideological indoctrination. Individualism, personal industry, family solidarity, monogamy, private property, patriotism, belief in a Creator God, etc. had to be discredited through education. Then, and only then, could the system of free-enterprise be demolished and replaced with the "c*******t ideal."

Obama and Clinton learned their lessons from one of Gramsci's top disciples, Saul Alinsky, the famous author of Rules for Radicals published in 1972. Alinsky's screed is a revolutionary lesson in how to organize masses of men and women to h**e the system of capitalist freedom, to take it down and replace it with a regimented collectivist system that centralizes government and levels down the productive classes to e******y with the less productive classes.

Radical Gradualism

The history of America for the past 100 years has been that of implementing Marx's C*******t Manifesto gradually rather than violently. Progressive taxation, centralization of credit and banking, and centralization of schools under government dictates are three of his ten planks that are already solidified in America. Abolition of the right of inheritance and centralization of the means of communication are steadily gaining ground among the people. These five planks are sufficient to bring about the ultimate destruction of capitalist freedom. Gramsci's and Alinsky's vision of gradualist socialism is making great strides.

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky teaches that true radicals do not flaunt their radicalism. They are infiltrators. They fight from within, slowly, patiently. Their goal is to deconstruct the foundation of values taught by the established institutions of capitalist freedom, to organize communities by agitation and teach them they have the right to seize the wealth of the productive classes because as Marx demonstrated via his "labor theory of value," their profits were stolen from the laboring classes. [Marx's labor theory of value is a gross fallacy, but that's another discussion for another day.]

Is not Barack Obama the perfect embodiment of an Alinsky radical? "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen," he told us in 2012. Like all collectivists, he believes that capitalism is evil incarnate and that government is more responsible for our economic productivity and enterprise than we as individuals are.

Is not Hillary Clinton of the same Alinsky mold? "Don't let anybody...tell you," she told us in a campaign speech earlier this year, "that it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly." In her mind, capitalism must be t***sformed, and gradualist socialism is the way to do it.

Both Obama and Clinton studied Alinsky in their youth. Obama eagerly taught his organizing methods in Chicago for several years before he ran for political office. Clinton wrote her senior political science thesis at Wellesley College on Saul Alinsky's model for political organization and deconstruction, and then personally corresponded with him for several years afterwards. Alinsky and his mentor, Gramsci, have been hugely influential in both of these politicians' ideological / activist development.

Thus when Obama does something seemingly irrational and counter to America's system of freedom, he is doing it on purpose. The primary goal of all Alinsky disciples is to "deconstruct" the system of capitalist freedom, which they perceive as oppressive and inhumane. This "deconstruction" is to take place by any means necessary, which the deconstructor thinks he or she can get away with.

Alinsky was a total "moral relativist." He preached that one's means must always be judged within the context of one's time and situation. "You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments," he writes in Rules for Radicals. All ethics are dependent solely upon success of the purpose that one's means are being employed toward. This, of course, leads to the justifiable use of force, theft, bribery, mendacity, even murder to bring about that purpose.

We are involved in a monumental war of ideas. It is a war that is far more powerful than those of bombs and rifles. The conflict we face today is a war between advocates of collectivist totalitarianism and individualist capitalism. The former manifests in the ideologies of c*******m, socialism, f*****m, Islamism. The latter manifested in the vision of Jefferson and the Founders in 1776. It built the greatest and freest way of life in the history of mankind. But lurking in the souls of many humans is a hatred of freedom and its requisites of self-reliance, courage and creativity. Philosopher Ayn Rand called this "hatred of the good for being the good."

This hatred of freedom is the real motive behind all collectivisms, all totalitarianisms I believe that the Alinskys, Obamas, and Clintons of life have a built-in animosity toward freedom prevailing in their makeups from birth. If this predisposition is countered with teachings of political-economic rationality and moral probity in one's youth, it will lie dormant and not cause any problems. But when it is mixed with the teachings of collectivist philosophers in one's youth, it springs forth in justifications for massive governmentalism. It spawns Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Fabians, welfarists, nihilists, etc. who then proceed to deconstruct the institutions of freedom in any way they can throughout their lives.

The enemies of freedom have a totally different value system than those who defend freedom. Values lie in the province of the mind and heart. Thus the real battlegrounds of life are not the Vietnams, the deserts of the Middle East, and the Normandy beaches. They are the schoolrooms, the churches, the publishing houses, the movie studios. Ideas move the world. In the beginning was the word, i.e., the t***h. Collectivist hatred is bent on replacing that "t***h" with a regimented life for humanity.
http://afr.org/saul-alinskys-radical-spawn/
by Nelson Hultberg br (all emphasis added by Tasin... (show quote)


The sad thing is that there are a lot of elected democRats in DC who share similar thoughts and that is why we need term limits. Kick all the bums out (both parties). Go Trump.

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Jan 25, 2016 07:34:21   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals... Chapter 2

Of Means and Ends... [Forget moral or ethical considerations]

In other words the End justifies the Means. There are no morals or Ethics in their methods.

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can k**l them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

No morals and they expect their Enemies (Republicans are Hillary's enemy) to play fair... Like us trying to fight a Politically Correct war against Radical Muslim Terrorists.

Our sense of fairness ties our hands when they are fighting a dirty war.

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Jan 25, 2016 07:37:04   #
son of witless
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
No one can truly understand Obama or Hillary without reading "Rules For Radicals" and "The C*******t Manifesto".



" Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. "

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu164131.html#qghcyowtWBt1TLAy.99

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Jan 25, 2016 07:45:26   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Elwood wrote:
The sad thing is that there are a lot of elected democRats in DC who share similar thoughts and that is why we need term limits. Kick all the bums out (both parties). Go Trump.

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Quite a few of them are registered Socialists, and I read that the Socialist Party accused the DNC of stepping on their toes, so to speak. LOL. What a mess the Socialists have caused and how many lives they have destroyed - for NOTHING.

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Jan 25, 2016 07:46:18   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
son of witless wrote:
" Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. "

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu164131.html#qghcyowtWBt1TLAy.99

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Great quote! Exceedingly definitive. Many thanks.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 25, 2016 07:46:34   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Tasine wrote:
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Quite a few of them are registered Socialists, and I read that the Socialist Party accused the DNC of stepping on their toes, so to speak. LOL. What a mess the Socialists have caused and how many lives they have destroyed - for NOTHING.


I share your pain. :(

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Jan 25, 2016 07:52:16   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
And as Margaret Thatcher once said about Socialists... "Eventually they run out of other peoples money to spend."

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Jan 25, 2016 07:52:28   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Ferrous wrote:
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals... Chapter 2

Of Means and Ends... [Forget moral or ethical considerations]

In other words the End justifies the Means. There are no morals or Ethics in their methods.

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can k**l them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

No morals and they expect their Enemies (Republicans are Hillary's enemy) to play fair... Like us trying to fight a Politically Correct war against Radical Muslim Terrorists.

Our sense of fairness ties our hands when they are fighting a dirty war.
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals... Chapter 2 br br O... (show quote)

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Yep, they are dirty fighters......to be otherwise would be to fail, and for us to fight dirty would be for us to fail.......that is how the dirtiest of the dirty wins in the end. Alinsky figured it out and the left are ardent students of his works. I wonder how things would go if some conservatives began to fight as the left does, dirtier than sewer scum? I wonder if 5-6 conservative sewer scum couldn't whip the entire gaggle of socialists at their own game? That 5-6 would be stronger in that they can think for themselves, they can utilize logic, and they have a cause far superior to the l*****t causes.

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Jan 25, 2016 07:58:00   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Ferrous wrote:
And as Margaret Thatcher once said about Socialists... "Eventually they run out of other peoples money to spend."


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:lol: :lol: So true, but it hasn't stopped the l*****ts and the RINOs spending one little bit, has it? You know that national debt? Most say that debt is OURS. I disagree. I call it the debt of those who approved budget after budget after budget, and overspent annually.

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Jan 25, 2016 08:02:26   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
We have to fight them with the t***h... If we lower ourselves into their cesspool world, we get their stench all over us...

Fight them with t***h and logic, Fight them hard and brutal, with no let up.
But not with lies that will destroy your argument.

Rules for Radicals * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

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Jan 25, 2016 08:03:46   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
It's called Pork Barrel Spending..Buying v**es.

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Jan 25, 2016 08:07:47   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Ferrous wrote:
We have to fight them with the t***h... If we lower ourselves into their cesspool world, we get their stench all over us...

Fight them with t***h and logic, Fight them hard and brutal, with no let up.
But not with lies that will destroy your argument.

Rules for Radicals * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
We have to fight them with the t***h... If we lowe... (show quote)

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All of us can fight and still be t***hful. What we cannot do is lower our standards and still feel good about ourselves. Our standards are miles above the "standards" the political left have. That is largely what all the battle is about.......they want our standards removed one way or another.

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Jan 25, 2016 08:27:23   #
CowboyMilt
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
No one can truly understand Obama or Hillary without reading "Rules For Radicals" and "The C*******t Manifesto".


All the more reason this "evil" woman must be defeated! She should be indicted for ALL her crimes & pay dearly!

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