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Jan 15, 2016 16:00:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Alicia wrote:
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While your do-nothing right-wing Congress is still doing nothing. the "law" proposed by President Obama is being put into the works by smaller governments (state) and grass-roots organizations. It is not necessary for me to view a list of those working with him. It's obvious that his proposals are the same as the majority of Americans - even gun owners.

The country has had enough of your vigilante-style open-carry (to the extent of military arms) and the law WILL be changed according to the WILL of "the people."

President Obama began his quest with requesting registration of arms and users. After all, cars must be registered and they are no more dangerous than guns in the hands of i***ts who use them as penis extenders. This is the best description of open carry, small-penised fools.
********* br While your do-nothing right-wing Cong... (show quote)
Airhead! Ignoramus. Constitutional illiterate. Hoplophobe. Charlatan. Proglad**e. Scum sucker. Take your pick, they all fit you like rainbow panty hose.

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Jan 15, 2016 16:06:28   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Zombiefarmer23 wrote:
You are full of s**t. In the end, we still have the Second amendment. Try to repeal that and see how far you get!


The T***h about Background Checks


NRA News | The T***h About Background Checks

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http://www.nranews.com/.../video/...t***h-about-back...

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Jan 15, 2016 19:05:42   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Airhead! Ignoramus. Constitutional illiterate. Hoplophobe. Charlatan. Proglad**e. Scum sucker. Take your pick, they all fit you like rainbow panty hose.

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Here we go with the names because you have nothing to say in defense of yourself.

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Jan 15, 2016 19:20:44   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
No,
It's Just Common Sense And Facts Bounce Off Some Of Our Posters Like A Super Ball On Concrete

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Jan 15, 2016 19:49:54   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 



Did anybody actually read this?
They're celebrating the recent Draconian laws that haven't done one thing for gun violence, only a pure brain dead i***t would ever consider this as a win. It's done nothing to curb anything other than infringe rights.
I know the far left is ignorant to the past, but to consider this as anything other than a governmental win over the people, one would have to have a 5 grade education, void of any higher understanding of the wars fought by oppressive governments of the19th and 20th century.
I know now why Orwell wrote such a novel as 1984, and the kind of people that would allow themselves to be so easily ruled.
The people that support these kinds of actions by any governmental are no better than the foolish Germans that allowed Hitler to perform the necessary tasks to gain the power he did.
Look as she celebrates in i***tic wonder as her leader strips her of the 2nd most important right for freedom.
Alicia, you and your ilk will make wonderful servants to your betters some day.

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Jan 15, 2016 20:36:18   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
the waker wrote:
Did anybody actually read this?
They're celebrating the recent Draconian laws that haven't done one thing for gun violence, only a pure brain dead i***t would ever consider this as a win. It's done nothing to curb anything other than infringe rights.
I know the far left is ignorant to the past, but to consider this as anything other than a governmental win over the people, one would have to have a 5 grade education, void of any higher understanding of the wars fought by oppressive governments of the19th and 20th century.
I know now why Orwell wrote such a novel as 1984, and the kind of people that would allow themselves to be so easily ruled.
The people that support these kinds of actions by any governmental are no better than the foolish Germans that allowed Hitler to perform the necessary tasks to gain the power he did.
Look as she celebrates in i***tic wonder as her leader strips her of the 2nd most important right for freedom.
Alicia, you and your ilk will make wonderful servants to your betters some day.
Did anybody actually read this? br They're celebra... (show quote)


I hope you watched my NRA video. The 2nd amendment is America's First Freedom

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Jan 15, 2016 20:59:08   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
the waker wrote:
Did anybody actually read this?
They're celebrating the recent Draconian laws that haven't done one thing for gun violence, only a pure brain dead i***t would ever consider this as a win. It's done nothing to curb anything other than infringe rights.
I know the far left is ignorant to the past, but to consider this as anything other than a governmental win over the people, one would have to have a 5 grade education, void of any higher understanding of the wars fought by oppressive governments of the19th and 20th century.
I know now why Orwell wrote such a novel as 1984, and the kind of people that would allow themselves to be so easily ruled.
The people that support these kinds of actions by any governmental are no better than the foolish Germans that allowed Hitler to perform the necessary tasks to gain the power he did.
Look as she celebrates in i***tic wonder as her leader strips her of the 2nd most important right for freedom.
Alicia, you and your ilk will make wonderful servants to your betters some day.
Did anybody actually read this? br They're celebra... (show quote)

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I did not offer the article in light of a government win but as the majority preference for gun control regarding registration and identification. I have heard of those guns that would be an error to steal because they use the owner's fingerprints that must be recognize before firing. As the gun nuts are always complaining that anyone can steal a gun, why would there be any negative reaction to all guns needing fingerprints?

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Jan 15, 2016 21:24:23   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Alicia wrote:
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I did not offer the article in light of a government win but as the majority preference for gun control regarding registration and identification. I have heard of those guns that would be an error to steal because they use the owner's fingerprints that must be recognize before firing. As the gun nuts are always complaining that anyone can steal a gun, why would there be any negative reaction to all guns needing fingerprints?


So what would happen if NPPs gun was in the night stand, and NPP was not home, but I was when the two thieves broke into the house, armed with knives, and started to beat me up and rape me. I couldn't use his gun, because it was coded for him only, therefore, it would be fine that I be raped and murdered, as long as they couldn't use his gun after the havoc was over. Sounds good to you doesn't it?

SWMBO

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Jan 15, 2016 22:42:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Alicia wrote:
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I did not offer the article in light of a government win but as the majority preference for gun control regarding registration and identification. I have heard of those guns that would be an error to steal because they use the owner's fingerprints that must be recognize before firing. As the gun nuts are always complaining that anyone can steal a gun, why would there be any negative reaction to all guns needing fingerprints?


Apparently you only read the parts that agree with your poorly thought through opinions. From Wiki:
Potential Costs and Harms[edit]
Some information security experts[who?] argue that smart guns that might "create new, serious safety issues for gun owners and non-owners alike." Joseph Steinberg wrote that "biometrics take time to process and are often inaccurate – especially when a user is under duress – as is likely going to be the case in any situation in which he needs to brandish a gun.... it is not ideal to add a requirement for power to devices utilized in cases of emergency that did not need electricity previously. How many fire codes allow fire extinguishers that require a battery to operate?" Steinberg further writes that "smartguns might be hackable" or "susceptible to government tracking or jamming...Firearms must be able to be disassembled in order to be cleaned and maintained. One of the principles of information security is that someone who has physical access to a machine can undermine its security."[8] In a follow up piece published in January 2016, Steinberg noted that smartguns that utilize wireless communications to detect that the shooter is wearing a watch, bracelet, or other device may "allow criminals (and police) to identify who is carrying a weapon" undermining "one of the reasons that some states require people to carry their weapons concealed; if all civilian-carried guns are concealed criminals do not know who is carrying and who is not, so they have to fear mugging everyone, which protects the unarmed as well as the armed."[9]
Other concerns are that smart guns may make a firearm more likely to fail when needed self-defense. "Batteries go dead, temperature or moisture can harm electronics and many 'smart gun' designs, such as Armatix's iP1, require that a person wear a watch, bracelet, or other device." Smart guns may also take considerable time to be ready for firing from a "cold start."[10]

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Jan 15, 2016 22:54:57   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Alicia wrote:
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I did not offer the article in light of a government win but as the majority preference for gun control regarding registration and identification. I have heard of those guns that would be an error to steal because they use the owner's fingerprints that must be recognize before firing. As the gun nuts are always complaining that anyone can steal a gun, why would there be any negative reaction to all guns needing fingerprints?



First the title of the Topic is "You Lose".
I believe we all lost.
It's the over all abuse of the system.
For example the Newspaper that released information about all registered gun owners in the NY and Jersey areas in order to create hystaria shortly after Sandy Hook.
Fortunately it had a different effect then what they thought. Instead of making them a target, it placed one on occupancies not having any defence.

....and what else was purposed to have the gun do?
It was much more than just fingerprint identification upon use, it can also be disabled by other means.
Most likely " black market" firearms would either disable such a device, or sell less advanced firearms from neighboring countries, thus making the whole endeavor more profitable for criminals and harder to procure for the "good guys".
I feel ya on so many accidental/suicidal deaths
But your not going to stop someone from causing harm if they're committed to the idea and most accidental gun deaths can be avoided by practicing proper gun saftey as most do.

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Jan 15, 2016 23:09:24   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
no propaganda please wrote:
So what would happen if NPPs gun was in the night stand, and NPP was not home, but I was when the two thieves broke into the house, armed with knives, and started to beat me up and rape me. I couldn't use his gun, because it was coded for him only, therefore, it would be fine that I be raped and murdered, as long as they couldn't use his gun after the havoc was over. Sounds good to you doesn't it?

SWMBO

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Not worthy of a response. Most of your submissions are in the same category.

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Jan 15, 2016 23:14:05   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Loki wrote:
Apparently you only read the parts that agree with your poorly thought through opinions. From Wiki:
Potential Costs and Harms[edit]
Some information security experts[who?] argue that smart guns that might "create new, serious safety issues for gun owners and non-owners alike." Joseph Steinberg wrote that "biometrics take time to process and are often inaccurate – especially when a user is under duress – as is likely going to be the case in any situation in which he needs to brandish a gun.... it is not ideal to add a requirement for power to devices utilized in cases of emergency that did not need electricity previously. How many fire codes allow fire extinguishers that require a battery to operate?" Steinberg further writes that "smartguns might be hackable" or "susceptible to government tracking or jamming...Firearms must be able to be disassembled in order to be cleaned and maintained. One of the principles of information security is that someone who has physical access to a machine can undermine its security."[8] In a follow up piece published in January 2016, Steinberg noted that smartguns that utilize wireless communications to detect that the shooter is wearing a watch, bracelet, or other device may "allow criminals (and police) to identify who is carrying a weapon" undermining "one of the reasons that some states require people to carry their weapons concealed; if all civilian-carried guns are concealed criminals do not know who is carrying and who is not, so they have to fear mugging everyone, which protects the unarmed as well as the armed."[9]
Other concerns are that smart guns may make a firearm more likely to fail when needed self-defense. "Batteries go dead, temperature or moisture can harm electronics and many 'smart gun' designs, such as Armatix's iP1, require that a person wear a watch, bracelet, or other device." Smart guns may also take considerable time to be ready for firing from a "cold start."[10]
Apparently you only read the parts that agree with... (show quote)

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I'm sure there will be improvements on smart guns as there is in every other invention. They first have to become popular.

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Jan 15, 2016 23:23:56   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Alicia wrote:
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I'm sure there will be improvements on smart guns as there is in every other invention. They first have to become popular.



Rots of Ruck with that one.

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Jan 16, 2016 00:55:46   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Loki wrote:
Rots of Ruck with that one.

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I am a positive thinking person. Isn't it true that every invention undergoes updating and improvement?

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Jan 16, 2016 01:02:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Alicia wrote:
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I am a positive thinking person. Isn't it true that every invention undergoes updating and improvement?


It is also true that viable "smart guns" are unlikely to be available anytime in the foreseeable future. Technology of limited and doubtful benefit is slower to develop.

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