CarolSeer2016

"Pensees"

Some background:

A. Neolithic Age (the first flowering and abundance of creativity in the history of the human species) began in the Middle East when men first became cognizant of their own participation in the act of creation. Probably stemming from the observation of mating in flocks, etc. Or maybe the realization that a flock or herd of all females would not result in new life.

B. Martriarchal societies are primitive, as is Socialism and C*******m and both are related to matriarchies. Because the Long Childhood of Man and the Long Childhood of Mankind are mutually recapitulative results in the fact that the very first social organizations are mother-dependent, as is the child.

C. The invention of irrigated agriculture in Mesopotamia resulted in a dangerous and disturbing relationship between the production of food and early quasi-religions and the matriarchies that developed. The use of fertility rites and temple prostitution caused rampant sexuality that dampened enthusiasm for rational, productive, masculine responses to the exigencies of nature.

D. In Sumeria (before perhaps the advent of Akkadians and the syncretism that developed between the Semitic and nomadic culture of Akkadia and the more primitive, matriarchal culture of early Sumeria), feeding of the Gods and the mother-sacrifice model of government resulted in incipient human sacrifice, abhorrent to God.

So what is it about men that enable them to structure society positively, so that creativity and productivity are maximized? I have already informed the people on this site, as well as most of the rest of the world, of some of those masculine traits and attributes, but the most important is the masculine ability to engage in long range strategic planning, unfortunately absent in female minds. (Perhaps some women have this ability, but they are few and far between: Queen Elizabeth I comes to mind.)

Men need to analyze thoroughly, in order to explicate the possible consequences of any actions they take. Women are more oriented to the present, myself included. For me, the waiting is the hardest part.

And another unfortunate difference between men and women is that women will try to control the individual (it is part of their job, as those young charges in their care need their control), whereas men attempt to control events, so they can provide stability to the family, the clan, the tribe and the state. That is one reason I'd rather live in a nomadic culture than a settled agricultural society. I don't like a lot of control; it is suffocating.

CarolSeer2016

Here is link with which I am somewhat in agreement, but I think Mike's causal connections can be better analyzed:

http://mikespassingthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/thoughts-on-matriarchial-societies-africa-s***ery-and-rebuilding-the-effects-of-non-organized-society/

And for evidence of the part matriarchy played in Central Africa, I have three primary sources, two are Muslim, one is Christian, (European):

1. (About 1050) Al-Bakri on natives in Ghana:

"Basi was a maternal uncle of Tunka Manin. This is their custom and their habit, that the kingship in inherited only by the son of the king's sister. He has no doubt that his successor is a son of his sister, while he is not certain that his son is in fact his own, and he is not convinced of the genuineness of his relationship to him."

2. (About 1350) From the writings of Ibn Battuta:

"Most of the inhabitants belong to the Massufa, and for their women---they are extremely beautiful and are more important than the men."
"And none of them derives his genealogy from his father but, on the contrary, from his maternal uncle. A man does not pass on inheritance except to the sons of his siter to the exclusion of his own sons."

3. (About 1450) From voyages of Antonius Malfante:

"They are governed by kings, whose heirs are the sons of their sisters---for such is their law."


Rampant sexuality contributing to lack of progress? You tell me.

CarolSeer2016

And one other thing: you may remember the Egyptian pharaoh married his sister.

CarolSeer2016

And here's an example of womanish thinking, in America's woman president in a man's body:

People die, and a gun seems to be the method, therefore if we take away guns, people will no longer die.

That is not only lack of long range strategic planning, it shows superficial thinking. Just like a woman.

CarolSeer2016

Most everyone on this site (and around the world) are aware of my admiration for the masculine contribution to civilization!!

CarolSeer2016

Come on, people, does no one even want to refute me?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Nope, women are i***ts, thanks for proving it.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Dumbass. Not a leader of men I see.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You don't like a lot of control, but the man driven societies thrive and have thriven on the control of women. During the renosance, poorly spelled, virtually all societies were dominated by man, a most productive period, and women were second class citizens, if citizens at all.

Interesting points on man's observation of animal "culture".

A totally sexist sci fi series by John Norman, the Gor series. Just entertainment, but interesting in light of your topic.

Women are taking a great deal of control on today's society, especially in America and Europe. Is that part of ourecline, due to their short sighted approach to living?

CarolSeer2016

As usual, nice refutation, DB. Can you be more specific?

Or are you still hurting over things I've said to you in the past?

CarolSeer2016

You really need to study history, nwtk. Or you may be just one of those pussy-whipped masculine personalities. (Or maybe you simply like rampant sexuality.)

Have you ever heard of something called "Chivalry"---which got its start in the Middle Ages. I have some great books on just that subject. Remember Eleanor of Aquitaine? Or even Joan of Arc?

Review the facts before expounding, please.

Or maybe, you just are inable to debate this subject fairly.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

You must be a woman.

CarolSeer2016

Reread your post, nwtk. I was hard on you, I admit, but it seemed to me you are defending feminism, without giving any good reasons for matriarchal social structures.

You know, of course, St. Augustine blamed women for his dissolute behavior?

But still you say nothing of women's rights and rampant sexuality. Does anyone have an "opinion" on that? Must not be a serious problem with even men then.

CarolSeer2016

Anyone?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...I like rampant sexuality....