My understanding is that the feds TOLD the Hammonds that they are not interested in communicating with the terrorists from Nevada.
I am not sure which Bundy man you are referring to.
I find it interesting that when Ammon Bundy is making business decisions that he doesn't dislike the SBA and perhaps other divisions of the US gov't.
Which little party do you want to ignore?
The terrorists have been all over the southwest getting involved in anti-gov't actions.
It seems that the "broken windows" theory may have some validity in relation to right wing crazies.
They keep acting out, they are ignored, they push a bit harder.
But, you know, that is all OK cuz they are white.

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If you were really listening, you would've heard (read actually) comments from libs and moderates regarding Ferguson and Baltimore. I suppose you were too busy participating in the 'intelllectual incest' that typical goes on in the conservative threads on the OPP.

While I commend the local, state and Federal LEO's for not responding to the lawlessness of the misguided, anti-government (unless the government is paying them money for something, then, they're most happy to accept it), gun-nuts (and, did I say law-breakers?), the actions of these few wackos are still, baby definition, illegal. That they wear their weapons like clothing, defying anyone from even thinking about trying to take their weapons away, only adds to the illegality of their actions.

In spite of their 2nd Admendment beliefs, it's still illegal to carry weapons (firearms especially) into Federal facilities. It so happens that the building they've "invaded" is Federal property. If for no other reason, i.e. trespassing, unlawful endangerment, and terroristic threatening, to name just a few charges, these numb-nuts are really no different than those who broke several laws during the demonstrations and riots that occurred in Furgeson and Baltimore.

Another difference between the actions in Oregon and those that occurred in Furgeson and Baltimore is the impetus of the actions. I must wonder how many of the 'good 'ol boys,' out in Oregon, took up arms and joined up with their fellow law breakers because one of their fellows was shot several times and killed on a public street? Whether or not the victim was a criminal, himself, is a separate issue.

Or, who while in police custody, another victim suffered injuries severe enough to cause death? Or, if the victim was only a child with his toy gun? Or, if the victim wasn't doing anything to warrant being suddenly shot several times, except to be crossing the street.

BTW - I'm not anti police. In fact, I'm very 'pro-police.' But, I do see a pattern of militarization in some of our police departments. As the gap between the haves and the have-nots grows over the past 20 years, the middle class and the minorities have felt the brunt of the discrepancy. As such, urban blight has increased. As the blight has increased so too has the animosity tuned to anger. And, anger is like a pressure cooker. At some point it explodes if not released or the pressure reduced.

I realize this is probably way above your ability to comprehend, Vernon, but, if you actually want to buy into the motto of one of the GOPTP's presidential candidates, Trump, and "Make America Great Again," you first need to be sure the middle class and the lower class are given a clear path to move upward and in mass; not just a relative few and not just because you guys think that you're being kind by letting some poor person have a break because you think you're being philanthropic. But, because their is a real path(s) to improve the economy for them and not just the rich folk.

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If you were really listening, you would've heard (read actually) comments from libs and moderates regarding Ferguson and Baltimore. I suppose you were too busy participating in the 'intelllectual incest' that typical goes on in the conservative threads on the OPP.

While I commend the local, state and Federal LEO's for not responding to the lawlessness of the misguided, anti-government (unless the government is paying them money for something, then, they're most happy to accept it), gun-nuts (and, did I say law-breakers?), the actions of these few wackos are still, baby definition, illegal. That they wear their weapons like clothing, defying anyone from even thinking about trying to take their weapons away, only adds to the illegality of their actions.

In spite of their 2nd Admendment beliefs, it's still illegal to carry weapons (firearms especially) into Federal facilities. It so happens that the building they've "invaded" is Federal property. If for no other reason, i.e. trespassing, unlawful endangerment, and terroristic threatening, to name just a few charges, these numb-nuts are really no different than those who broke several laws during the demonstrations and riots that occurred in Furgeson and Baltimore.

Another difference between the actions in Oregon and those that occurred in Furgeson and Baltimore is the impetus of the actions. I must wonder how many of the 'good 'ol boys,' out in Oregon, took up arms and joined up with their fellow law breakers because one of their fellows was shot several times and killed on a public street? Whether or not the victim was a criminal, himself, is a separate issue.

Or, who while in police custody, another victim suffered injuries severe enough to cause death? Or, if the victim was only a child with his toy gun? Or, if the victim wasn't doing anything to warrant being suddenly shot several times, except to be crossing the street.

BTW - I'm not anti police. In fact, I'm very 'pro-police.' But, I do see a pattern of militarization in some of our police departments. As the gap between the haves and the have-nots grows over the past 20 years, the middle class and the minorities have felt the brunt of the discrepancy. As such, urban blight has increased. As the blight has increased so too has the animosity tuned to anger. And, anger is like a pressure cooker. At some point it explodes if not released or the pressure reduced.

I realize this is probably way above your ability to comprehend, Vernon, but, if you actually want to buy into the motto of one of the GOPTP's presidential candidates, Trump, and "Make America Great Again," you first need to be sure the middle class and the lower class are given a clear path to move upward and in mass; not just a relative few and not just because you guys think that you're being kind by letting some poor person have a break because you think you're being philanthropic. But, because their is a real path(s) to improve the economy for them and not just the rich folk.

i must not have been listening because i didnt hear anyone condeming the actions of the crazies.all i heard was hands up dont shoot which was a dam lie.
as far as incest i think thats your peoples problem more anyone else,s

. now you say they are carring guns i have seen them on tv several times and i havent seen any of the with a gun.
as far as that being federal property, that is the problem the us s dosent have the authority to own property outside of d c.the blm is a rogue org along with the atf and should be done away with.and they are nothing more than a bunch of bullies.

ill admit im not to smart if i was i wouldent be wasting my time answering this hate mail.but there has always been a clear path to move up.
1 go to school and learn. 2 if you cant go to collage or arnt collage material then learn a trade.and work hard.that is a clear path,but i have a feeling that many of the poor are just waiting for a hand out
and remember the demorats push poverty they want people depending on them.
our new gov just proved that.the law says if your are single and able bodied you have to work 20 hrs a week or do work for a charity or get JOB TRANING to collect food stamps.our new demorat gov just waved that requirement.that is what demorats do,they want people to be dependent on the gov and to vote demorat.
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