susanblange Loc: USA

I think a lot of Christians have good intentions. The problem is, they are deceived but don't know it. There are some Christians who will make it to Heaven, but if they cling to their idols till the end, they will forever die, At the death of the true Messiah, a book will be written containing the names of those who "fear God, and think upon his name". It is called the Book of Life, or the Book of Remembrance. It will contain the names of those who believe in the God of Israel. Daniel 12:1, Malachi 3:16.

susanblange Loc: USA

I believe we were created by God, Richard, and I believe the OT is the word of God. The complexity of life demands it. I don't think reproduction, eyesight, and hearing are all accidents, to name a few. And then there's the human brain. You should talk to a medical doctor who believes in God (and a lot do). They can explain it much better than I can.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

What an i***t. I looked it up in the Hebrew myself. I never take another persons word for scripture, until I have verified it for myself.

Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman (Ees-shaw) [Strong's #802], because she was taken out of Man (Eesh) [Strong's #376].

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man (Eesh) [376] leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife (Eesh-shaw) [802]: and they shall be one flesh.

Gen 4:1 And the man (A-dam)[120] knew Eve his wife (Eesh-shaw) [802]; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man (Eesh) [376] from the LORD.

MALE ANIMALS ARE EESH
Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the (Eesh) male and his (Eeshaw) female..."

JEHOVAH IS AN EESH
Exo 15:3 Jehovah is a (Eesh) of war: Jehovah is his name.

ANGELS ARE EESH
Judges 13:6 Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, A man (Eesh) [376] of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel (Mal-awk) [4397] of God, very terrible: but I asked him not whence he was, neither told he me his name:



I do my own independent research, much of which is contrary to the ignorance of Scholarship.



You are mixing the old testament Mosaic law to Israel with Christianity, which does not apply. Get real!

Richard94611

You do your own independent research, most of which is independent of logic and common sense, but not of superstition. Somewhere in middle school you neglected to learn hat just because a book or a person says it is so, it is not necessarily so.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

The book I use for research is the bible. And I did not listen to other children in middle school. They listened to me.

Richard94611

The Bible is not free of superstition and falsehood, and has suckered many a Christian like yourself. If you are using a nonsensical source for your information, the results of your research will still be nonsense.

Richard94611

It certainly applies, but is selectively (almost never) obeyed. Our forum's Bible-thumpers don't profess to believe the New Testament only. They believe and take as t***h "the Bible."

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

I wish I had met you thirty years ago. I could have used a good teacher, knowledgeable and righteous, you know, to set a good example and all.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

I assume you are saying the law of Moses certainly applies Christians. You are totally wrong in that regard.


COVENANT OF LAWS WITH ISRAEL WAS THROUGH MOSES, NOT ABRAHAM
These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.(LEV 26:46)

NOT WITH OUR FATHERS; NOT WITH NATIONS
"For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? 8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?"[Deut 4:7-8]

ALL OF US ALIVE HERE THIS DAY; NOT OUR FATHERS
"And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day."
(Deu 5:1-3)

That kinda' eliminates Christianity form being subject to the law.

Richard94611

I'm not saying any such thing. I am saying that most of the Christians I have known in the past 77 years have believed implicitly in the Bible, claim that it is "the t***h" (wh**ever that may be), claim that it is "the word of God," and claim that their beliefs apply to both the Old and the New Testaments.

Their beliefs are really quite simple and clear to delineate.