bahmer

You believe that I am a total liberal? How and where did you derive that from?

I am a total conservative. I do want to ask the liberals a couple of questions though.

At what point in time in the history of our country and our people did it come about that my opinion became invalid didn't matter and mute?

At what point in our countries history did the liberal agenda become the only right agenda and all others were of no consequence?

At what point in our history did it become acceptable to force one man to buy anything that he or she did not want of be forced to pay a fine or maybe even have to go to prison?

At what point did it become acceptable to take part of my pay and give it to others with out my consent?

I don't ever remember v****g for or giving my consent for any of the above and yet they are all law or taxes. You then make fun of the conservatives for trying to save not only their freedoms but yours as well. I don't get it.

At one point in our history we were all equal and we were the greatest force that the world ever knew. We have allowed ourselves be divided and thus we are fighting among ourselves when we should be fighting against the divider in chief in the white house. We used to stand shoulder to shoulder black, white, yellow, red it didn't matter we were all Americans but not now.We are allowing the divider in chief to exploit our differences and we are not concentrating on our similarities.

william 1 of 1

I have not read this entire bill, in fact i have not read a single word of it! I still come to the conclusion that if it is so complicated and devided this country into radical groups! it is probably a power grab disquised as something created from responciple represenitives! yeah thats right its a farse plain and simple and if it isn't demanded of our own represenitives and others of favorable contributions then hoiw in the hell am I to believe its good for me or my family?

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

I took my meager lunch break and did some reading, quotes of founding fathers in particular.

I would suggest to our more progressive friends to do the same. I strongly believe their wisdom and insight is as relevant today as it was 225 years ago.

rrmoderate

You liberals are all the same and after you come up with bills laws policies etc.we the people become less free with every one.

Pretty soon our national anthem will read land of the once free and the land of the once brave. It will not be until you have everyone in subjection will the liberal socialist rest in peace.

For some reason you h**e freedom so much and go to such extremes to stifle it and put the light of freedom out. Why?

I want to be free to choose my insurance and my doctor and under the ACA I will lose all of those freedoms just so that the liberal can appease the few in the minority. Why?

When you feed the animals in the woods they soon become dependent upon people to feed them and when that doesn't happen they get real mad and even k**l people for their food.

We are raising a generation of dependents and the ACA wants to ens***e the rest of the population. We have to end it now.

You could take the money that is being spent for additional IRS staff and other expenses and I have heard that someone did the math and we could give the supposed 30 million people without insurance the equivalent of a three million dollar policy and still come out money ahead.
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I appreciate the interesting rhetoric, but that doesn't at all address the real issues: bringing healthcare to those who don't now have care, eliminating exclusions from pre-existing illnesses, covering students a few years further to allow them to complete their eduction, etc. No question that there's a lot of content in the etc. part.

Our current open market health insureance processes just doesn't resolve these holes in available coverage. What could be the reasonable objection to try to close these holes???

Our populace need the education needed to better understand the ACA and the options contained.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

There have been many proposals for addressing these directly - and if you are not aware of them you should widen your sources of information - but what Obamacare does is bring big government in with a program that reaches each and every citizen in order to deal with some problems of particular segments of society - in other words it follows the tried and true liberal solution to all problems - more government.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

Yes of course making health care accessible to all is a good idea as are most progressive idea's the problem isn't the idea the problem is the way in which it is resolved.

The affordable health care act was sold to the American people as a way for those without access to get access through being able to join a larger pool of people bringing down the cost to each individual. The cost if the program being fully funded through premiums being paid for by the insured. Sounds great small business owners,sub contractors, professionals now can afford insurance for their families.

Where in this bill if sale does it say coat tax payers god knows how much, give free health care to all undocumented workers and to hell with your rights as parents or freedom of religion.

Why don't we go back write the correct way and still provide health care to needy by eliminating levels and levels of very expensive government bureaucracy to pay for them.

Admit it this is a power grab plane and simple it was never intended to be anything but

bahmer

They can't admit that anymore than Obama can admit what his true agenda is for America. If Obama admitted to what he really wants to do to America he would be tried for treason and dingy Harry Reid wouldn't be able to save him. If he came right out and stated that his plan is to bring America to its knees, and make us equal to some third world country he would never had been elected. That is why everything he says is a lie and direct opposite of what he plans on doing. The ACA is nothing more than a power grab coupled with another division in America. It will divide the rich from the poor even further. The rich will still have their doctors and they will pay a premium to go see them and the poor will have the cast off doctors. The cast off doctors will be the equivalent of the back up Quarterback or maybe even the third string quarterback. Just remember we don't get something for nothing, Somebody or somebodies are going to make a k*****g on this deal and these individuals are the members of congress. Most all of the this congress including Obama doesn't give a rats ass about the poor or anybody else out here, they just have to appear concerned, and then they stuff their pockets with more money and plan their retirement.

Comment Loc: California

Mr. Wanttoknow: Sir, are you a lawyer. If not, perhaps, you are not so well qualified yourself. I'd rather trust a conservative attorney that take a chance on a novice. I Justice John Roberts has already shamed the Supreme Court in the Case of ObamaCare vs, I think it was Virginia, Virgini, et al with his decision that a FINE is a TAX. When, the govs own lawyer stated it was not a tax. Roberts made law out of thin air. With the Supreme Court in the left pocket of the left winged c****es we can kiss our Constitutional rights away. People, here is the shove. With 20 million i******s getting ObamaCare and all the poor getting free insurance paid by the taxpayer. No one has a clue on how much this is going to cost. Remember SS cost $60 annually back in the 30s. ObamaCare is another magnet drawing the i******s to the USA for free health insurance. Tell them to bring all their pre-existing conditions with them. How is it fair when a family of 4 earning $50000 annually has to pay $18,000 for insurance when halv the country and i******s, bums and druggies and surfers and people who just don't want to work. Free, free, free. In Obamacare is just one more plank of the C*******t Manifesto that is nailed into the American Nanny State. Make the people secure and you can do anything you want with them. The people are so lazy and dumb that they go along , like a herd of sheep being guided by a wolf pack to slaughter. Soon there will be a BBQ in the C*******t World. The United State will be grilled and consumed.

Obamaca

carolyn

You are full of crap if you say you have read the complete text of HB3200 and still say that it does not contain what Michael Connolly says it contains. Either that, or you do not understand the legal lingo that is used in these government writs. And yes, we have to call it Obamacare because of the way his crooked henchmen drew it up behind closed doors and forced it to be passed without benefit of anyone reading it first, or even publishing it on the internet as they were supposed to have done. Remember, the first "Affordable Healthcare Act bill" was v**ed down before they put their rotten heads together and drew up this monstrosity in a highly secret and crooked environment where they added an additional thousand pages to the old one and called it the new Affordable Health care.

Schuler Loc: Santa Fe NM

Egad--deja vu --all over again! Mr. Connelly is woefully biased in his -I will give him the benefit of the doubt- 'interpretation' of the ACA. How many times are we going to have to debunk these same old charges? There is ample proof that most of the opposition to the law is based on ignorance (and in some cases just plain lies). So either read it-or study the ample examples of what will and will not happen when it is implemented! The comment from Americans should be: what's not to like?

rrmoderate

There have been many proposals for addressing these directly - and if you are not aware of them you should widen your sources of information - but what Obamacare does is bring big government in with a program that reaches each and every citizen in order to deal with some problems of particular segments of society - in other words it follows the tried and true liberal solution to all problems - more government.
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Unfortunately, you're still sticking to the Tea Party radical right rhetoric and not addressing, at any level, the root issue of bringing healthcare to several million americans who do not have it today and closing some of the other existing holes. Our current private sector insurance process has not been able to do that. ACA will.

Ultimately, poor health is much more costly that the maintenance of adequate health conditions. That is not disputable.

I'm very leary of 'big government', but, I don't see ACA as that factor at any level. This is a basic human needs service that is sorely needed and needed now.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

"I'm very leary of 'big government', but, I don't see ACA as that factor at any level." With that quote alone you show the problem - you don't see. How can you even think that a federal law that taxes everyone for breathing as not big government would indicate you are blind to the reality. While the intent of the ACA may well be to aid the slim minority of people who truly have difficulty buying healthcare insurance it disrupts the insurance for literally everyone else. There is not one single healthcare insurance policy that exists in 2013 that is not rendered illegal in 2014. If you don't recognize that as a big government program you are purposefully ignoring reality.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Both parties are being stupid and the republicans shoud have gone straight for if it's good for big business it's good for the indivdual. Now wait the republicans are suppost to be the party on big business so what's going on here democrats?

carolyn

I believe so many people are so afraid or lazy to try and stand on their own two feet that they want someone around to constantly wipe their butts for them. Ergo, that is why they will always grasp at any lie the Democrats tell them as gospel.

Comment Loc: California

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