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Sep 25, 2013 14:32:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Molly wrote:
Ok.. first off I obviously go deeper than the headlines. If I only read headlines I would believe, from that article, that Obama wants to repeal the second amendment. But I know where the President stands on this issue so I knew it was not true, but out of curiosity I rea further. It mentions it in the article too. SO then the first poster says if its true then blah blah blah... they obviously didn't read the article or they would see that no where in any of the direct quotes did he say that. Then their was a quote box of a quote from you that repeated that he wanted to return to the black caucus after he repealed it. Also inaccurate. This is my whole beef... so many people fail to do the homework. Stop believing everything you read... only get your information from a direct quote and not a total twist of what was actually said. So many people will just read the headline and be like wow.. that President is so unamerican... repealing the second amendment... they fail to read the article or know how to extrapolate actual factual information. ANd when in doubt, they fail to go research it themselves and move on to the next headline from an obviously biased source or the next meme thrown out from someone with an axe to grind who hasn't done their homework either.. or has and just chooses to ignore the facts and try to tear down the other party through a misinformation campaign of their own.
Ok.. first off I obviously go deeper than the head... (show quote)


If you actually read that whole article maybe you just missed this part where, once again I say that Carry and Obama are planning to slip that UN Treaty in on us. Maybe you, like them, don't know that the Senate has to agree with that treaty before it becomes law in the nation since I Won has put out so many EOs about gun control.

Constitutionalists should now be on the lookout for the imminent announcement by Secretary of State John Kerry or by President Obama himself that the United States has signed the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty. That act will be a bellwether of the coming acceleration of the disarmament of the civilian population of the United States.

Are the words of the author only his or are they maybe just what Carry and Obama have in mind?

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Sep 25, 2013 14:51:15   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
After reading the thread, again I saw the mention of MARTIAL LAW and just had to check that one out. I found several blogs talking about those signs and then read Snopes article to see just how true or untrue the left leaning site thought these thoughts were.

I finally looked at one blog and found some very interesting reading toward the end (you may have to scroll down about 2/3 of the way) that did pique my interest. Molly, please read this link and tell me how untrue you can prove it to be, especially what those EOs really do mean.

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/04/29/america-stands-upon-the-precipice-of-brutal-martial-law/

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Sep 25, 2013 14:57:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Molly wrote:
And hopefully you eat your words on that. It's not going to happen, and when it doesn't will it at all change your perception of the man? Or will you continue to put words in his mouth and accept them as fact?


Who is your reply to, Molly? You could help us out a lot by using the Quote Reply function at the bottom left hand part of the post you reply to. Try it, you may even like it. I sure would.

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Sep 25, 2013 15:21:20   #
willy7
 
oldroy wrote:
If you actually read that whole article maybe you just missed this part where, once again I say that Carry and Obama are planning to slip that UN Treaty in on us. Maybe you, like them, don't know that the Senate has to agree with that treaty before it becomes law in the nation since I Won has put out so many EOs about gun control.

Constitutionalists should now be on the lookout for the imminent announcement by Secretary of State John Kerry or by President Obama himself that the United States has signed the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty. That act will be a bellwether of the coming acceleration of the disarmament of the civilian population of the United States.

Are the words of the author only his or are they maybe just what Carry and Obama have in mind?
If you actually read that whole article maybe you ... (show quote)


Kerry signed the treaty this afternoon. Unless the Senate ratifies the treaty it means nothing to constitutionalists. And maybe not then.

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Sep 25, 2013 15:42:45   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
willy7 wrote:
Kerry signed the treaty this afternoon. Unless the Senate ratifies the treaty it means nothing to constitutionalists. And maybe not then.


I am a very strict constructionist and will not give my gun up without a fight. I wonder how many will.

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Sep 25, 2013 15:47:51   #
willy7
 
oldroy wrote:
I am a very strict constructionist and will not give my gun up without a fight. I wonder how many will.


Deceive, Divide, and Destroy. With martial law he divides the populace and keeps them from mutual support. He must not think much of his FEMA Crews' marksmanship, else why so many bullets? To deny ammo to "them" (us).

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Sep 25, 2013 18:43:15   #
bahmer
 
willy7 wrote:
Enough of them to fire 1.6 billion 9mm jacketed hollow point bullets? I only wonder what event he'll use to keep himself in office and suspend all constitutional government.


I would think that the black caucus would remember the days in the south when no negro was allowed to own a gun. The KKK ran rampant and any negro caught with a gun was executed and the negro's were not allowed to v**e back then either. I would be amazed that they would want to return to those days and I would be even more amazed if the rest of the b****s would follow. But we do have the pied piper in the WH and he has pulled the wool over many a persons eyes in the past. I guess we will have to wait and see.

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Sep 25, 2013 19:24:47   #
willy7
 
bahmer wrote:
I would think that the black caucus would remember the days in the south when no negro was allowed to own a gun. The KKK ran rampant and any negro caught with a gun was executed and the negro's were not allowed to v**e back then either. I would be amazed that they would want to return to those days and I would be even more amazed if the rest of the b****s would follow. But we do have the pied piper in the WH and he has pulled the wool over many a persons eyes in the past. I guess we will have to wait and see.
I would think that the black caucus would remember... (show quote)


I know many b****s who will not give up their arms to ANYONE.
They, like us, may be in the minority, population-wise.

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Sep 26, 2013 14:06:36   #
Molly
 
My reply was to willy... but can apply to anyone. When none of these conspiracy theories play out.. will anyone apologize for attacking the character of a man with false information? Doubt it. Highly.

So on to OldRoy.. so I read through that article you posted. First off.. unnamed sources do not have any responsibility and when they are wrong no one ever knows it. On to the second source. I found so many articles discrediting this reverend or pastor or wh**ever he is. He is a business man who stands to make money on his predictions. He has had some accurate predictions... but they are pretty common sense. Liek if the world breaks down gold will be currency.. wonder how much stock he owns in gold?

Source 3 is the government itself. Any EO with a lower number the 13489 can be attributed to a prior President. So all of the EO's listed were from prior Presidents. And I think all of those EO's are what happens if the s*** hits the fan. They define our national response to an emergency.. which every President must look over and be well aware of. Many conspiracy theories can easily be debunked with this information. People see that response to the National Defense Preparedness Act. People often quote pieces of this and state that each new President is implementing parts of it. But they aren't. This has been around forever and is updated as times change but it goes into effect only when this go very far south.

Another article.. easily debunked,

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Sep 26, 2013 14:07:52   #
Molly
 
And for the record.. I dare anyone to come take my gun as well. No one is going to come try take your gun. Now if times change and they place limits.. their will likely be grandfathered guns and such.. but people will still be able to have a gun.. just maybe not an uzi.

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Sep 26, 2013 20:51:07   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Molly wrote:
My reply was to willy... but can apply to anyone. When none of these conspiracy theories play out.. will anyone apologize for attacking the character of a man with false information? Doubt it. Highly.

So on to OldRoy.. so I read through that article you posted. First off.. unnamed sources do not have any responsibility and when they are wrong no one ever knows it. On to the second source. I found so many articles discrediting this reverend or pastor or wh**ever he is. He is a business man who stands to make money on his predictions. He has had some accurate predictions... but they are pretty common sense. Liek if the world breaks down gold will be currency.. wonder how much stock he owns in gold?

Source 3 is the government itself. Any EO with a lower number the 13489 can be attributed to a prior President. So all of the EO's listed were from prior Presidents. And I think all of those EO's are what happens if the s*** hits the fan. They define our national response to an emergency.. which every President must look over and be well aware of. Many conspiracy theories can easily be debunked with this information. People see that response to the National Defense Preparedness Act. People often quote pieces of this and state that each new President is implementing parts of it. But they aren't. This has been around forever and is updated as times change but it goes into effect only when this go very far south.

Another article.. easily debunked,
My reply was to willy... but can apply to anyone. ... (show quote)
I wouldn't say easily debunked. Who knows what this government is involved in worldwide. I've heard all this before. Jesse Ventura is all over it. Personally, I think he's out there but who knows? Just keep your gun close!

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Sep 27, 2013 18:00:47   #
willy7
 
Molly wrote:
And for the record.. I dare anyone to come take my gun as well. No one is going to come try take your gun. Now if times change and they place limits.. their will likely be grandfathered guns and such.. but people will still be able to have a gun.. just maybe not an uzi.


Hi molly. My wife and I were watching a program with clips showing the N**is loading Jews from the Warsaw ghetto into cattle cars when she asked me, "Why are they just getting in those cars? Why aren't they fighting?" I just said, "Who has the guns?" I hope you're right but there are many parallels between N**i Germany's tactics used to disarm their populace (not just Jews and other 'undesirables'). You could check "The Ominous Parallels" by Leonard Peikoff. See what you think.

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Sep 27, 2013 18:12:05   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Molly wrote:
He did not say he was going to repeal the second amendment. If you want to prove to me he did then show me the video. He is going back to look at gun safety measures, not a repeal of the second amendment. Stop looking at the headlines people and read the meat, do your research.


Why must you hit these people with the t***h? They seemed to be having fun running with that miss information.

But in t***h it is a breath of fresh air :thumbup: :thumbup:

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