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ISIS WANT US TO BAN REFUGEES
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Nov 19, 2015 21:01:42   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Your right, I did miss how Ovomit changed immigration for refugees. Are you referring to the i*****l i*********n thing that is tied up on way to SCOTUS?

Hemiman wrote:
You are missing a very important point,we have laws covering immigration that were working until Ovomit showed up.We need to go back to immigration within the law.

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Nov 19, 2015 21:01:46   #
VladimirPee
 
Jessie that is ridiculous. Did you see how many Syrians were willing to be trained to fight for Syria ? 4

Watch this Chris Matthews video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wuPlIBR8w


UncleJesse wrote:
I can't think of better recruits to infiltrate and o*******w ISIS for DHS and CIA and military than a refugee with a grudge against ISIS.

Paris terrorists weren't even Syrian refugees. They are all EU citizens that grew up there after their parents immigrated and were easy targets for terrorist recruitment when their dreams of being a crime gang syndicate fell through.

ISIS is hurt when we accept refugees because this undermines its propaganda of a war between Islam and the West. ISIS is helped when the West shuts out Syrian refugees because that promotes its propaganda. It also keeps refugees stuck in overcrowded and underfunded refugee camps in the Middle East — an ideal opportunity for ISIS to recruit and radicalize potential fighters.


When Tsarnaev's bombed Boston, there was not a ban on all Chechen Muslim refugees. Like in Paris, these were geek children of immigrants that felt a desire to be radicalized. We hunted them down and k**led them just like was done in Paris. So now there are over 100,000 Iraqi refugee immigrants. ISIS is in Iraq too. Why stop at Syria? Shouldn't the bill be amended to include Iraq too?

No. When a punk from Syria makes a video making a rah-rah over some punks in Paris and then makes a claim that they're coming to get you (like the boogey man), the point is to be strong and have a resolve not to cave in with hysteria as if the punks and their video are important at all.

The point is to send them a message that if anything happens, we will hunt them down and k**l them just like was done to Tsarnaev and Paris freaks and then they won't be around to recruit others.
I can't think of better recruits to infiltrate and... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2015 21:07:57   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
PeterS wrote:
You would think a message of strength much better than a message of weakness much better wouldn't you...


.....and if its your butt, or someone you care about dying over some wack jobs ideals?
I can't say I would sacrifice my family or friends so Obama can make some kind of ( in my opinion) i***tic statement to the world about how diverse he is, but hey to each is own.
It's my belief, we're looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, are you really trying to cock that hammer?

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Nov 19, 2015 21:11:01   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
You make a really important point here. It seems to indicate you believe the refugees aren't vetted by a long process of interviews of those who know them in the sponsoring country.

plainlogic wrote:
How a bout this inscription which would be more most appropriate now.. Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore who will murder you and bomb your fellow man. Please let us come undocumented so we can that for you.

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Nov 19, 2015 21:11:19   #
VladimirPee
 
Message of Strength? You mean Obama capitulating to Putin on Syria or his refusal to Arm Kurds and Ukraine? ISIS knows we have a weak ass President.


PeterS wrote:
You would think a message of strength much better than a message of weakness much better wouldn't you...

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Nov 19, 2015 21:12:39   #
VladimirPee
 
The refugees aren't vetted. We have no assets in Syria to check documents. Syria is divided between ISIS and the President Assad Obama has been trying to oust. Who is going to provide information?


UncleJesse wrote:
You make a really important point here. It seems to indicate you believe the refugees aren't vetted by a long process of interviews of those who know them in the sponsoring country.

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Nov 19, 2015 21:28:27   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I guess when compared to life in another country, maybe life in Syria isn't anything to fight for even if Assad and ISIS go away?

I guess Assad and his supporters have a lot to loose and they stay and fight.

I was thinking those refugees who lost everything would maybe like to get revenge on those who took it.

VladimirPee wrote:
Jessie that is ridiculous. Did you see how many Syrians were willing to be trained to fight for Syria ? 4

Watch this Chris Matthews video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wuPlIBR8w

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Nov 19, 2015 21:39:25   #
VladimirPee
 
Doesn't seem to be the case. Matthews made an excellent point



UncleJesse wrote:
I guess when compared to life in another country, maybe life in Syria isn't anything to fight for even if Assad and ISIS go away?

I guess Assad and his supporters have a lot to loose and they stay and fight.

I was thinking those refugees who lost everything would maybe like to get revenge on those who took it.

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Nov 19, 2015 21:43:03   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Friends and relatives who vouch for them here are interviewed. About half are children.

VladimirPee wrote:
The refugees aren't vetted. We have no assets in Syria to check documents. Syria is divided between ISIS and the President Assad Obama has been trying to oust. Who is going to provide information?

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Nov 19, 2015 21:49:19   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I thought Fox's Shep made a better point.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4616486043001/smith-in-the-face-of-terror-will-we-panic/?playlist_id=2694949843001#sp=show-clips


VladimirPee wrote:
Doesn't seem to be the case. Matthews made an excellent point

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Nov 19, 2015 21:49:30   #
VladimirPee
 
The Paris Terrorist mother vouched for him. His brother said he had no idea his brother had been radicalized. Are you naïve?


UncleJesse wrote:
Friends and relatives who vouch for them here are interviewed. About half are children.

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Nov 19, 2015 21:52:45   #
VladimirPee
 
Shep never mentioned refugees.



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Nov 19, 2015 22:17:09   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
You're right, he never mentioned refugees. Something instead like 'huddled masses yearning to be free'.

VladimirPee wrote:
Shep never mentioned refugees.

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Nov 19, 2015 22:19:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Hemiman wrote:
You are missing a very important point,we have laws covering immigration that were working until Ovomit showed up.We need to go back to immigration within the law.
Did you know that from 1924 to 1967, immigration into the United States was reduced to a quota of 2%. The Immigration Act of 1924, signed by President Coolidge, set the quota for immigrants entering the U.S. at two percent of the total of any given nation`s residents in the U.S. as reported in the 1890 census; And, after July 1, 1927, the two percent rule was to be replaced by an overall cap of 150,000 immigrants annually and quotas determined by "national origins" as revealed in the 1920 census.

Why? The rise of Anarchist terrorism in the early 1900s. Many anarchist terror attacks at that time occurred in France, Spain, the US and elsewhere.

In America, the assassination of William McKinley on September 6, 1901 by the anarchist, Leon Czolgosz, started it here. Then on September 16, 1920, anarchists bombed the J.P Morgan Wall Street office, k*****g 39 and injuring hundreds.

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Nov 19, 2015 22:31:09   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I guess when compared to life in another country, maybe life in Syria isn't anything to fight for even if Assad and ISIS go away?

I guess Assad and his supporters have a lot to loose and they stay and fight.

I was thinking those refugees who lost everything would maybe like to get revenge on those who took it.




Exactly who do you believe took it?
A lot of questions about how ISIS is so well armed and equipped. Isn't it the least bit interesting how we find ourselves continuously chasing terrorists into sovergn countries?
Sure does make a good excuse to invade, or well, we'll say enter a country "uninvited" ;)
I'm sure just like in Iraq, we re bombing the hell out of they're infrastructure for the good of the people.
So, of course they love us! :)

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