Anigav6969

That's awesome.....I'll take politifacts word and conclusions over yours.....the 90 million include seniors, high school students, retired baby boomers.....it's just nonsense....it's just not true...what you're saying is that the true unemployment rate is almost 40%....yeah.....okay

The economy plummeted under GWB....why would we want to go back to the same policies ??.....who is offering any different policies than he had ??

That being said, we live in an Oligarchy.....it did not start with Obama...it started with Reagan....has Obama fixed it ??....Nope .....but to say the troubles started with Obama is silly.....I look at this President as the less of two evils...I certainly didn't want Romney....I don't see anyone on the Republican side that would change things for the better....I also don't like Hillary.....I just don't like her a little less than the Republicans....pretty sad

Anigav6969

You still sound completely paranoid....tell me where you're eating and sleeping habits are being controlled.....I'm not " paranoid" about GWB....he started wars that never should have been started....spent trillions and had Americans die for no reason.....did he start Katrina?...of course not...but his response sucked...." Good job brownie".....c'mon....why isn't he campaigning ??....because nobody wants to go back to his crappy Presidency....like I said in the previous post....I look at Obama as the less of two evils....I just like him better than the Republicans.....I really don't like democrats or Republicans.....I just find the Demcrats at the moment, the lesser of two evils

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

We can agree it did not start with obama or Bush.
I appreciate our banter, and happy there's no rock throwing.
I think this started in 1972 when Nixon took us off the gold standard and created our Fed fiat currency, which was not Nixons idea but banks terse which was pushed by the left and then implemented by the right.
I'm with you in not seeing a first choice on the p**********l line up. I do like some of the energy of bringing jobs and manufacturing back to America with hardliners negotiations with China, building the border fence and regulating legal immigration. Side note, I'm not anti emigrant, I am pro existing Americans first with our poor children, honeless, and unemployed. First subvert higher education cost mathmatics, social scientist, medical field giving .Americans jobs, now held by green card holders (millions of jobs ) Americans are far behind in the higher education and qualifications. I believe Trump could be successful rebuilding the econony from decades of bad policies, I'm not comfortable with his hand on the button. Obama continues to move the line in the sand, making us look weak, Trump very possible could draw lines in the sand from ego against powerful powers when he doesn't get his way. I do like Carson’s level headed approach to issue's, my concern is the best ideas would be slow moving and not much would get accomplished. What I like about his c, maybe b plan for taxes is, it beats the 70 thousand page nightmare and all to powerful IRS we now have. The worst tax plan of the candidates beats what we now have.

As far as the 90 million, I understand your position as we read much of the same information. I have looked at the census Bureau population stats, age groups, retired, underage and so on, then using the participation rate come up to 22% . You don't have to take my word or any fact checkers word, you are able to fact check this one yourself and see the political machine of disinformation working at its best. The variables to consider are working age, retirement age, military, those on disabilities. Using the most conservative considerations we end up at nearly 15% unemployment and nearly 65 million discouraged workers.

CounterRevolutionary

What if we look at our economy as a byproduct of the New World Order g*******ts? These g*******t argue that we must trade with everybody, including c*******t dictatorships who plot to k**l us.

For example, the logic behind operating the Export Import Bank is that if we pay these c*******t nations to buy our goods through "Détente," then America will raise their standard of living, create a new trading partner, and eventually upgrade the living standard of the entire world.

This is a blatant lie.

What is the end result? The c*******ts arm themselves to the teeth, fiancé international terrorism, subsidize wars everywhere to destabilize prosperity, and destroy our own standard of living. The real objective is perpetual war, not for profit, but for murder.

The Federal Reserve Banks further devalues our dollar by flooding the world market with funny money. Their logic is that, since we are now engaged in a Global Market, an American unsk**led laborer pushing a broom must be paid on the same wage as a c*******t s***e in a rice paddy.

There should be rewards for being born a free man in a free state, his work is honorable and his potential for greater achievement and contribution is limitless. C*******t s***es of Asia, feudalist serfs of Latin America and apathetic socialist pawns of Europe do not have that option.

Shut down the Federal Reserve Bank. Shut down the Federal Housing Authority Bank, Shut down the Export-Import Bank. No government banks allowed in America. Period! These government banks have not served us well. We are all pitted against eachother, fighting over the scraps, after these government banks redistribute our wealth into the winds.

Worse, our private banks are no longer private. Perhaps passing a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution might reign in this reckless, arrogant Congress that has raided our private banks, making us commoners "too great of a risk" for private loans. Instead, our own private banks see no risk at all loaning to our government that is already $18 trillion in debt. Our private banks are being nationalized. This is nuts.

Whoever controls the money controls the country. We are being reduced to serfs under this damnable, socialist Progressive Obama Administration. Get this government out of all these banks.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

I find no argument in your assessment. I would say it's not the 18 trillion we have to worry about, it's this administration giving 3.5 trillion to Wallstreet not mainstreet in order to separate the middle class and future making the rich, richer and the poor, poorer. It's this administration with policies making the banks bigger x 10 post 08/09 recession and giving them TRILLIONS that the fed never reported to the public, and paving a road for OVER 150 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities. What those defending the administration's economy don't understand or are unaware of, leaving with a credit bubble that only God can bail out and a banking bubble larger than all the combined wealth of the world combined since recorded history.
Now we with 186 other nations signed up to the one world order allowing the UN to haw rights to enforce laws on American citizens disregarding our Constitution, allowing UN troops on our soil to enforce "their "laws including removal of any and all firearms. Endorsed by the pope with the guise of climate with terrifying words written in their agenda for all to read. This is Agenda 21 on steroids, fully removing the last remaining freedoms and rights. In the back drop the pope is orcastrating a one world church nick named "chrislam" and will lead the way with power over the climate agenda.
The one factor required for a one world economy to begin is America's economy aligning with the rest of the world, and I believe what we have been watching happen to our economy by policy, agendas, and manipulation has us nearing the goal of alignment, with a near crash on the horizon. With the trillions in unfunded liabilities during a crash, the only possible solution would be a one world dollar, which would be the final bullet to America's heart of a free economy and everything the founding fathers fought for, and the blood shed to preserve it.

son of witless

Since you are totally ready to blame Bush for the 2007-2009 financial crisis, you are no doubt extremely well versed in the details of what actually caused it. So go ahead and explain it to me.

Anigav6969

I always enjoy our conversations Jack...you're my favorite conservative on here....and I'm open minded, whether the others think so or not....I'm a registered independent.....when it all started ?...maybe with Nixon....Reagan made it worse....Clinton made it even more worse ( I'm not sure if that's proper English) GWB...forget it ....and Obama did not fix it....I don't see anyone for the worker...we are still living in trickle down economics....it's a shame......that being said, many of us v**e with our wallets......and the fact is, my business, every manufacturer I deal with, my family members and friends are all doing better than 7 years ago.....I don't want to go backwards....heck I can't afford to go backwards....so, it's scary.....the Republicans scare me....Like I said, I'm no fan of Hillary....I just don't like her a little less than the others.....I also lean center / left on most issues of today.....the majority of the country does as well...

Anigav6969

Lol....wow ....a test !!......does it get graded ??....yore joking right ?

CounterRevolutionary

Jack, I don't think Americans want a "One World Dollar" any more than the Brazilians, the Egyptians, or the folks in Indonesia. There is a reason we have language, culture and borders and international monetary exchanges. Our freedom rates are different, our production rates are different, and our coinage rates are different.

I honestly think that people who chose socialism instead of free markets are of a different mental stock. Most Europeans welcomed Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini and Stalin in their times, just as they welcome the new European Union, valuing the security of state s***ery over the security of the freedom to chose. And socialism is people sanctioned state s***ery.

This bailing out Wall Street over Main Street is not an issue of helping rich people verses poor people, it is something altogether different. The banks that were "too big to fail" - Bank of America and Washington Mutual, should have failed. Under Dodd-Frank, the big banks have merged and grown 37%.

But keep in mind that it was the Federal Reserve Bank that has been bailing out the Federal Housing Authority Bank since Harry Truman that created the housing bubble and bust in the first place. The Federal Reserve Bank and FHA Bank should not exist, period. No national banks allowed. Congress should go back to the Constitution and control coining our money to match our production. the Federal Reserve Bank's incessantly changing the value of the dollar destroys fair trade and human trust.

The real economic crisis is an Over-Bloated Government that needs instantaneous downsizing. There are over 600 federal bureaucracies that easily could be privatized. This thing is like the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and it is eating us up alive.

We need to get the US government out of our lives and out of our banks. We need to restore a National Debt Ceiling and pass that Balanced Budget Amendment.

son of witless

You h**e G.W. Bush equally as much as I h**e Barak H. Obama. You constantly harken back to the financial crisis of the last 2 years of Bush's Administration and put 100 % of the blame on the policies of Bush. Whenever I or anyone else complain about Obama you bring up those last 2 years of Bush and brag about how much better things are now.

I want to see if you know what you are talking about in blaming Bush.

Anigav6969

I blame GWB for many things....invading Iraq the most ( Trump agrees with me ) the fact that he started this ridiculous unnecessary war, is unforgivable...trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and thousands more maimed....do you think that war helped our economy ??......what I'm saying is that what I see now is Job growth...we didn't see it with GWB.....how many months in a row now has there been job growth and not losses ???.....if you want to go back to the days of GWB, you are in the minority....no thank you....if we could raise the minimum wage and invest in infrastructure, we would ramp up the economy even more....the republicans are against this of course....they always say the same thing...cut taxes for the wealthy and hope it trickles down to everyone else....been there done that.....no thank you

son of witless

Since you did not bother to answer my question I will give you the courtesy to answer some of yours. Infrastructure is infrastructure. It is not the magic bullet Liberals believe it to be. If it was the economy would be booming. Infrastructure in the age of Obama is a way of paying back your supporters with money from the public treasury. Democrats wrote the book on that.

The minimum wage is a red herring. Your side seeks to raise the wages of fast food and retail workers. Well, why are head of house holds forced to take those jobs? Those were never meant to raise families on. The whole tax structure in America incentivizes getting rid of good paying occupations. We are reduced to working entry level jobs.

You do not raise wages and living standards through the minimum wage. You create conditions where companies have to bid for the best workers. You don't do that by putting big corporations out of business, telling them how to run their businesses or flooding the country with 10s of millions of i******s who will gladly work for next to nothing.

I have yet to have a liberal answer one question. How does flooding this country with low sk**l, low wage workers help American workers????????????????????????????

Anigav6969

I disagree...investing in the Infrastructure of this country is not only necessary, but it would create jobs.....how could it be booming ?.....we haven't been able to do the investing that we should..
Minimum wage should be raised...it's time...the amount is debatable...but it should be raised....thankfully, the majority of the Country agrees with me.....in fact the majority of the country leans left on just about every issue of our time...that's why we probably will not see a Republican President in a very long time...they are just on the wrong side of the issues...
Of course, flooding this country with low wage workers doesn't help American workers....both Republican and Democrat are responsible for that....the fact is that less people have crossed the border under Obama, than past Presidents...you don't seem to mind it when there is a Republican in the White House....hell...even the God Reagan gave amnesty to millions.....I guess you want to round them all up....maybe you could apply for a job with Trump.....good luck with that

son of witless

EXCUSE ME!!!!! Obama is the one who blocked the fence. Obama is the one who arranged for families from Central America to send their kids on a dangerous trip through Mexico to illegally come here. THAT WAS FREAKIN OBAMA!!!

OBAMA IS THE ONE who punished border states for enforcing the laws that swore to uphold and then broke that oath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When Reagan gave amnesty it was to fix the problem existing then. The problem with Reagan's solution is it sends the message that if you come you will eventually outlast American law.

The minimum wage does not equal prosperity. There are workers who are not worth paying that to. Business will not hire them. Business will lay them off. Should a fast food worker get paid brain surgeon's wages????

We have had infrastructure coming out our butts and we still have unemployed and mostly underemployed.

I do not know if what yousay is true about less people coming in during Obama, but if it is it was not for lack of trying on that Klown's part. It was likely because the economy was so bad.

Anigav6969

It is true...Obama has deported i*****l i*******ts in record numbers:

It's pretty funny how you support Reagan giving amnesty to millions of i*****l i*******ts....somehow then, it was okay......again the majority of the country supports a pathway to citizenship...another issue the republicans are on the wrong side of

Should a fast food worker make a brain surgeon's salary ??....is that a serious question ?