Richard94611

Boofhead, the proof will be in the coming P**********l e******n, which Republicans will lose, won't it ?

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

Richard, boomers v**e, millennials don't. Maybe in the future when millennials get up in age but a lot will change until then.

Demographics are good to pay attention to but don't forget the heart beat. Practically any liberal candidate would've won in '08. '12 was supposed to go conservative due to economy but that 47% tape really affected the heart beat of v**ers.

Next e******n could go either way. It's another year yet and a lot can happen.

I know that by you looking at demographics alone, it seems like an easy win for libs. But keep in mind that conservatives are much more motivated to show up to v**e than liberals. Conservatives want to save America from destruction while liberals want to continue to build on the work of Obama. Conservatives will be more motivated than liberals.

Richard94611

UncleJesse, Hispanics v**e. And there are more and more of them legally able to do so as time passes. If Trump runs he will have all the chances of a pisshole in the snow. The Republican Party's potential candidates all seem be buffoons.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

Typical liberal BS. An excerpt from an article by Brandon Smith:

The illusion of consensus

Collectivists rely greatly on the force of a well-aimed mob to convince the general public they have the consensus position; that they are in the majority. Appearing to be in the majority is the single most important goal of a collectivist movement, even if they are in reality a small minority. The anonymity of web activism gives the force of the mob a new potency. No more than a dozen collectivists working in tandem can wreak havoc in multiple web forums or harass numerous individualist publications while giving casual readers the impression that their ideology is “everywhere.”

The key here is that collectivists understand that the average person does not want to be seen as too contrary to the majority. They understand that the majority view matters to the public, even if the majority view is utterly wrong. If collectivists can convince enough people that their ideology is the majority view, they know that many people will blindly adopt that ideology as their own in order to fit in. The lie of consensus then becomes a self perpetuating prophecy. This problem will remain forever a danger as long as people continue to care at all about the majority view.

The destruction of core institutions

Those institutions people consider “core institutions” are sometimes vital, and sometimes not. That said, it is the openly admitted objective of collectivists through socialist-style movements to destroy core institutions so that there is no competition to their new system. A collectivist society cannot allow citizens to have any loyalties beyond their loyalty to the group or the state. So, individual liberties must be degraded or removed, as per the constant reinterpretation of the constitution as a “living document.”

Religious institutions must be painted as shameful affairs for stupid barbaric cave-people. And, the family unit must be broken apart. This is done through economic depravity so pronounced that families never see each other, through state influence over children through public schooling, and through identity politics and propaganda which create sexual and racial conflicts out of thin air.

Dominating discussion

This coincides with the idea of artificial consensus, but it goes beyond the use of the mob. In our daily lives we are now bombarded with collectivist messages —in mainstream news, in television shows, in movies, through web media and print media. The money behind these outlets belongs to a very small and select group of people, but through them the collectivist worldview is injected into every corner of our society. I would call this propaganda by attrition; an indirect but steady insertion of collectivism creating an atmosphere in which the ideology becomes commonplace even though it is being promoted by a limited number of people.

Exploiting the youth

When we are young, most of us spend a great deal of time and energy working to be taken seriously. The question is, should we be taken seriously?

In my view and the view of the liberty minded, it really depends on the person’s actions, experience, efforts and accomplishments. Most younger people have little to no experience in life and haven’t had the time to accomplish much. They are still learning how to function in the world, and what kind of goals they want to pursue (if they ever pursue any goals). Because of this, it is hard for those of us who have gone through considerable struggles in life and reached a certain level of achievement to take them seriously when they decide to stroll into a room and pontificate on their moral and philosophical superiority. It makes me want to ask; what the hell have you ever accomplished?

This is not to say that there are not ingenious young people out there, or ignorant and lazy older folks. There are. But collectivist movements seek to exploit younger generations exactly because of their general lack of experience and naivety, as well as their feelings of entitlement when it comes to respect.

Collectivism almost always utilizes a theory called “futurism” in order to appeal to the young. The theory, which was a leading philosophy behind the rise of f*****m, proclaims that all new ideas are superior in their social usefulness and all old ideas and beliefs should be abandoned like so much dead skin. According to futurism, those who cling to old ideas and principles are an obstacle to the progress of society as a whole.

The funny thing is, the ideas usually expounded by collectivists are as old as time — elitism, feudalism, totalitarianism, etc. None of these methodologies are “new” by any stretch of the imagination, but collectivists repackage them as if they are some grand new secret to Shangri-La. Younger adherents of collectivism latch onto futurism almost immediately. For, if all new ideas are superior, and all old ideas are barbaric, and younger people are the purveyors and consumers of everything new, then this means that it is the youngest generations that are the wisest, and the village elders that are naïve. By extension, the young become the village elders without them ever having to struggle, make sacrifices, learn hard lessons, suffer loss, rise to challenges, or accomplish anything.

The enticing nature of this sudden groundswell of cultural respect is simply far too much for the average person college age or younger to ignore. Collectivism gives the young what they think they want, then uses them as tools for greater conquests.

http://personalliberty.com/the-tools-collectivists-use-to-gain-power/

Richard94611

Demographics, of course, is not about consensus or opinion. It is about population numbers. To borrow a phrase from Nikita K, "We will bury you." Sorry I don't have a clip of me pounding my shoe on my computer desk.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

LOL, good luck.....your queen is doing a good job of burying herself..... your shovel won't be big enough to dig her out.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

The article/story is 100% self serving for the results the author desires to have people believe it to be true.

Reality, the Citizens are s**k of socialism and liberalism. President Trump, will end all your treason.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

President Trump has a super good plan to deal with all you low life i******s and t*****rs.....you may not like it, but, everyone else is going to LOVE it. To rid the USA of vermin will not only improve the job openings but also give the financial relief of not having to pay any more extra expenses of giving tax money for all the liberals FREE programs (which are never free) and as such, the burden you liberals have forced upon the USA will also be GONE!

I'm donating rope and tall stools for President Trump to use on all your t*****rs, and willing to donate my time to be the "executioner" for all you liberals.....

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

You understood my post ,, right ! As far as demographics , you will get a better understanding when patriots stand, check the losses of the democrats in 2010, 2012, 2014 hows that for demolosers, did I spell that correctly?

boofhead

I hope that the Republicans win, but it is a toss-up I agree. While Democrats will happily v**e for Hillary, one of histories most reprehensible liars, or Sanders, who openly espouses c*******t principles, both of them being committed to taking this country on a path that Obama has started us on, and that will result in our destruction financially, morally and idealogically, Republicans have much higher standards.

Republicans want their candidates to be conservative, to love the country and the people, to respect individual freedoms, the Constitution, rule of law, have high moral standards and to be trustworthy. The opposite of Democrats in every way.

If you look at the current crop of candidates you can see that there are few, or none, who meet those requirements. Most are progressives, the only two who might meet the conservative ideals are Carson and Cruz.

Carson is not a politician, not a problem for a President but a real problem for a P**********l candidate and is seen to have a problem with winning, especially with the media so against him. Cruz is better, but like Obama, is not legally entitled to be President. Trump has a very liberal history and I doubt he is truly a Republican. V****g for him or any of them would require a true American to hold his nose as he pulls the lever.

Many Republicans will stay away from the polls, which makes it highly likely that the Democrat candidate will win. A true loss for America and Americans, and the end of the American empire. It is not hard to forecast a descent for the whole world into hardship and brutal tyranny as a result of the loss of the beacon of hope that this country once represented.

As an immigrant and only recently a naturalized citizen, I feel the loss harder than those who were born here. Maybe I value it more or maybe I had a more unrealistic confidence in the common sense and values of the America I wanted to be part of.

I had no idea that close to half of the population h**ed their own country so much that they would be willing to let the criminals and Moslems and d*****ts take over without a fight, to give up what their own fathers and mothers strove so hard to gain. I thought that Liberals and Democrats were just like the rest of us in their hearts and loved this country as we do. Finding out that this is not true is a shock I will admit.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Please check and get back to me with the number of deaths under Obama in Iraq and Afghanistan especially since Obama changed the rules of engagement favoring the militants over Americans. When you say that Bush is probably the worst president it tells me conclusively that you have no grasp what Obama has done to America, to Americans and the world at large. No third rate community organizer, raised by c*******ts, who must keep the secrets of his youth and college grades, completely beyond public scrutiny, and whose stated goal is to fundamentally change America, who has increased the debt more than all other presidents COMBINED, who is a coward and a blowhard, etc, etc, etc, etc, has improved his resume by becoming president. Furthermore, his e******n proves too many Americans are functionally unqualified to v**e.

Richard94611

You have just demonstrated that you don't understand the meaning and the effects of demographics.

jasfourth401

You are correct. This isn't an issue of which side is right or wrong. It is an issue of simple math coupled with the concept of majority rule on a national level.

Or to put it more bluntly, those that seek to fill a big tent for the circus will have better success when they promote their show to the entire town.

waltmoreno

quote=Richard94611]The reason, of course, is demographic, and the forces of demography cannot at this stage be stopped. Thank goodness !




I’ve Seen America’s Future and It's Not Republican
New and profound demographic changes will give the Democrats a huge advantage in the 2016 e******n, and beyond.
By Stan Greenberg / The Guardian November 6, 2015


Given the kind of things the Republican p**********l candidates have been saying every day for weeks now, you might reasonably conclude that US politics is stuck not just in another decade, but in a previous century. Ben Carson thinks Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since s***ery”. To boost an argument against gun control Carson also said that Hitler would have k**led fewer Jews in the Holocaust “if the people had been armed”. Donald Trump, meanwhile, would expel 12 million undocumented migrants because so many are “criminals, murderers and rapists”. Carly Fiorina asserts that “every single policy” Hillary Clinton espouses, including paid family leave and equal pay for women, “has been demonstrably bad for women”.

This Republican race to the political bottom is happening because America’s conservatives are losing the culture wars. The US is now beyond the e*******l tipping point, driven by a new progressive majority in the e*****rate: racial minorities (black and Hispanic) plus single women, millennials (born between 1982 and 2000) and secular v**ers together formed 51% of the e*****rate in 2012; and will reach a politically critical 63% next year.

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And each of these groups is giving Clinton, or whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate for the 2016 White House race, at least a two-to-one advantage over a Republican party whose brand has been badly tarnished.

The country today, particularly the bigger urban centres, is being dramatically remade by the hi-tech, internet, big data and energy revolutions. Just as important are the revolutions in migration, the family, g****r roles and religion. Together these revolutions are producing seismic and accelerating changes to the economy, culture and politics – which is what animates so many Republican candidates. America is emerging as racially blended, immigrant, multinational, multicultural and multilingual – a diversity that is ever more central to its political identity. We are not talking here about trends, but profound demographic changes accompanied by a dramatic shift in values. They have produced a country where racial minorities form 38% of the population, and 15% of new marriages are interracial. One in five global migrants end up in the US, and thus nearly 40% of the populations of New York and Los Angeles are foreign born, as are 50% of Silicon Valley’s engineers and more than half of US Nobel laureates.

Since 2011 a majority of Americans have been living in unmarried households, and a diversity of family types – from same-sex marriages and cohabitation to remarriage after divorce, delayed child-rearing, childlessness and those who never marry – is now accepted. Millennials are in fact marrying later and having few children, while working class women are avoiding marriage with working class men who are no longer assured of secure, decent-paying manufacturing jobs. With the traditional male breadwinner role nearly extinct, three-quarters of women are now in the labour force and two-thirds are the principal or joint breadwinner. The result: single women will form a quarter of the e*****rate in 2016. Religious observance meanwhile has plummeted across all religious denominations, with the exception of white evangelicals. People who define themselves as secular now outnumber mainline Protestants.

The political landscape is also being reshaped by a reversal of the historic pattern of mobility and home ownership. The middle class ladder used to take every generation and new wave of immigrants from city centres to suburbs to the exurbs. But in the past decade cities, with their falling crime rates, have attracted more people – particularly retiring baby boomers – than suburbs, and real estate values in metropolitan areas have risen faster than elsewhere and created more jobs. At the same time, only half of millennials have a driver’s licence, the right of passage for prior generations.


Not only are baby boomers now outnumbered by millennials – but also the groups could not be more different: 66% of boomers are married, 72% are white and their income is $13,904 above the national median; over 40% of millennials are racial minorities, 60% are single and three-quarters believe America’s diversity of race, ethnicity and language makes the country stronger.

All this social disruption has taken place at remarkable speed: the political centre of gravity has in effect swung from right to centre in under a decade. When Barack Obama first ran for the White House in 2008, 46% of Americans described themselves as conservative, but that has fallen to 37% now. In some national polls, the number of American liberals equals the number of conservatives. Gallup marked 2015 as the year when cultural attitudes reached a significant benchmark: when 60-70% of the country said gay and lesbian relations, having a baby outside marriage or sex between unmarried women and men were all “morally acceptable”.

The shift marked by these polls reflects the new American majority and explains why next year’s e******n will prove shattering and d******e for the Republican party, even if it retains its strongholds in the House of Representatives and states.
It also explains why, since 2004, Republicanshave been engaged in a ferocious counter-revolution to stop these new and expanding demographic groups from coalescing to form a politically coherent bloc capable of governing successfully. The tactic adopted by Karl Rove, George W Bush’s e******n strategist, and other social conservatives was to forsake “big tent Republicanism” and the swing v**er. Instead of an earlier emphasis on “compassion” or the “Latino v**e”, they made politics a battle for social and cultural values – “American values” – that would raise the stakes and engage those who leaned furthest to the right, particularly evangelicals and the religiously observant. Rove’s ambition was to create a permanent Republican majority, and he saw “moral” issues such as opposition to gay marriage as the most powerful force in politics. Indeed, he used them to galvanise enough support to get Bush re-elected in November 2004.

But the culture war ignited by Rove is a fire that requires ever more toxic fuel – it only works by raising fears of the moral and social Armageddon that would follow a Democratic victory.

The Republicans have, of course, won big numbers of seats at state level and in off-year e******ns in the past decade. However, their conservative supporters, motivated by moral purpose, are now angry that Republican leaders have failed to stop Obama, particularly as the country, as they see it, tips into global and economic oblivion.

On the other hand, this intensifying battle for values has also left the Republicans with the oldest, most rural, most religiously observant, and most likely to be married white v**ers in the country. These trends have pushed states with large, growing metropolitan centres, such as Florida, Virginia and Colorado, over the blue Democratic wall, creating formidable odds against Republicans winning the e*******l college majority needed to win the presidency.
Encamped in the 20 states of the south, the Appalachian valley, parts of the plains states and Mountain West, conservatives have waged their culture wars to great effect. But those states account for only 25% of the v**ers. Success here turns Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz into plausible candidates – but not plausible presidents in a country that is past the new e*******l tipping point. America will get to send that message 12 months from now.[/quote]
Sadly you may be right. Demographics indeed might turn the tide for what was once the shining city on the hill for the tired poor huddled masses, yearning to breathe free, and turn it into a third world dung heap if Obama can succeed in bringing in more than the already millions of i*****l i*******ts he's already brought in. But I will fight the takeover of this, the last best hope of man on earth by the God-hating, left with every fiber of my being. But I'm also cognizant that we're now living in the last generation which generation began in 1948 as foretold by Jesus when his apostles asked him when he would return. After telling them of a number of signs to watch out for, including famine (not for bread but for hearing the Word of God, which is absolutely true in the US today, so that His word is prohibited in schools, government, etc. ), and one world government (being c*******m which the US is rapidly becoming more so every day under Obama), he ordered them to learn the parable of the fig tree. This parable essentially says that when Israel becomes a nation again, all prophesy will be fulfilled in that same generation. Sooo..., how long is a generation? Well, we can't know the hour but we can know the season. And we're 67 years into the generation. Let those with eyes to see, see, and those with ears to hear, hear.