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Nov 6, 2015 16:20:14   #
Richard94611
 
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the forces of demography cannot at this stage be stopped. Thank goodness !




I’ve Seen America’s Future and It's Not Republican
New and profound demographic changes will give the Democrats a huge advantage in the 2016 e******n, and beyond.
By Stan Greenberg / The Guardian November 6, 2015


Given the kind of things the Republican p**********l candidates have been saying every day for weeks now, you might reasonably conclude that US politics is stuck not just in another decade, but in a previous century. Ben Carson thinks Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since s***ery”. To boost an argument against gun control Carson also said that Hitler would have k**led fewer Jews in the Holocaust “if the people had been armed”. Donald Trump, meanwhile, would expel 12 million undocumented migrants because so many are “criminals, murderers and rapists”. Carly Fiorina asserts that “every single policy” Hillary Clinton espouses, including paid family leave and equal pay for women, “has been demonstrably bad for women”.

This Republican race to the political bottom is happening because America’s conservatives are losing the culture wars. The US is now beyond the e*******l tipping point, driven by a new progressive majority in the e*****rate: racial minorities (black and Hispanic) plus single women, millennials (born between 1982 and 2000) and secular v**ers together formed 51% of the e*****rate in 2012; and will reach a politically critical 63% next year.

ADVERTISING


And each of these groups is giving Clinton, or whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate for the 2016 White House race, at least a two-to-one advantage over a Republican party whose brand has been badly tarnished.

The country today, particularly the bigger urban centres, is being dramatically remade by the hi-tech, internet, big data and energy revolutions. Just as important are the revolutions in migration, the family, g****r roles and religion. Together these revolutions are producing seismic and accelerating changes to the economy, culture and politics – which is what animates so many Republican candidates. America is emerging as racially blended, immigrant, multinational, multicultural and multilingual – a diversity that is ever more central to its political identity. We are not talking here about trends, but profound demographic changes accompanied by a dramatic shift in values. They have produced a country where racial minorities form 38% of the population, and 15% of new marriages are interracial. One in five global migrants end up in the US, and thus nearly 40% of the populations of New York and Los Angeles are foreign born, as are 50% of Silicon Valley’s engineers and more than half of US Nobel laureates.

Since 2011 a majority of Americans have been living in unmarried households, and a diversity of family types – from same-sex marriages and cohabitation to remarriage after divorce, delayed child-rearing, childlessness and those who never marry – is now accepted. Millennials are in fact marrying later and having few children, while working class women are avoiding marriage with working class men who are no longer assured of secure, decent-paying manufacturing jobs. With the traditional male breadwinner role nearly extinct, three-quarters of women are now in the labour force and two-thirds are the principal or joint breadwinner. The result: single women will form a quarter of the e*****rate in 2016. Religious observance meanwhile has plummeted across all religious denominations, with the exception of white evangelicals. People who define themselves as secular now outnumber mainline Protestants.

The political landscape is also being reshaped by a reversal of the historic pattern of mobility and home ownership. The middle class ladder used to take every generation and new wave of immigrants from city centres to suburbs to the exurbs. But in the past decade cities, with their falling crime rates, have attracted more people – particularly retiring baby boomers – than suburbs, and real estate values in metropolitan areas have risen faster than elsewhere and created more jobs. At the same time, only half of millennials have a driver’s licence, the right of passage for prior generations.


Not only are baby boomers now outnumbered by millennials – but also the groups could not be more different: 66% of boomers are married, 72% are white and their income is $13,904 above the national median; over 40% of millennials are racial minorities, 60% are single and three-quarters believe America’s diversity of race, ethnicity and language makes the country stronger.

All this social disruption has taken place at remarkable speed: the political centre of gravity has in effect swung from right to centre in under a decade. When Barack Obama first ran for the White House in 2008, 46% of Americans described themselves as conservative, but that has fallen to 37% now. In some national polls, the number of American liberals equals the number of conservatives. Gallup marked 2015 as the year when cultural attitudes reached a significant benchmark: when 60-70% of the country said gay and lesbian relations, having a baby outside marriage or sex between unmarried women and men were all “morally acceptable”.

The shift marked by these polls reflects the new American majority and explains why next year’s e******n will prove shattering and d******e for the Republican party, even if it retains its strongholds in the House of Representatives and states.
It also explains why, since 2004, Republicanshave been engaged in a ferocious counter-revolution to stop these new and expanding demographic groups from coalescing to form a politically coherent bloc capable of governing successfully. The tactic adopted by Karl Rove, George W Bush’s e******n strategist, and other social conservatives was to forsake “big tent Republicanism” and the swing v**er. Instead of an earlier emphasis on “compassion” or the “Latino v**e”, they made politics a battle for social and cultural values – “American values” – that would raise the stakes and engage those who leaned furthest to the right, particularly evangelicals and the religiously observant. Rove’s ambition was to create a permanent Republican majority, and he saw “moral” issues such as opposition to gay marriage as the most powerful force in politics. Indeed, he used them to galvanise enough support to get Bush re-elected in November 2004.

But the culture war ignited by Rove is a fire that requires ever more toxic fuel – it only works by raising fears of the moral and social Armageddon that would follow a Democratic victory.

The Republicans have, of course, won big numbers of seats at state level and in off-year e******ns in the past decade. However, their conservative supporters, motivated by moral purpose, are now angry that Republican leaders have failed to stop Obama, particularly as the country, as they see it, tips into global and economic oblivion.

On the other hand, this intensifying battle for values has also left the Republicans with the oldest, most rural, most religiously observant, and most likely to be married white v**ers in the country. These trends have pushed states with large, growing metropolitan centres, such as Florida, Virginia and Colorado, over the blue Democratic wall, creating formidable odds against Republicans winning the e*******l college majority needed to win the presidency.
Encamped in the 20 states of the south, the Appalachian valley, parts of the plains states and Mountain West, conservatives have waged their culture wars to great effect. But those states account for only 25% of the v**ers. Success here turns Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz into plausible candidates – but not plausible presidents in a country that is past the new e*******l tipping point. America will get to send that message 12 months from now.

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Nov 6, 2015 17:11:55   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Richard94611 wrote:
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the forces of demography cannot at this stage be stopped. Thank goodness !




I’ve Seen America’s Future and It's Not Republican
New and profound demographic changes will give the Democrats a huge advantage in the 2016 e******n, and beyond.
By Stan Greenberg / The Guardian November 6, 2015


Given the kind of things the Republican p**********l candidates have been saying every day for weeks now, you might reasonably conclude that US politics is stuck not just in another decade, but in a previous century. Ben Carson thinks Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since s***ery”. To boost an argument against gun control Carson also said that Hitler would have k**led fewer Jews in the Holocaust “if the people had been armed”. Donald Trump, meanwhile, would expel 12 million undocumented migrants because so many are “criminals, murderers and rapists”. Carly Fiorina asserts that “every single policy” Hillary Clinton espouses, including paid family leave and equal pay for women, “has been demonstrably bad for women”.

This Republican race to the political bottom is happening because America’s conservatives are losing the culture wars. The US is now beyond the e*******l tipping point, driven by a new progressive majority in the e*****rate: racial minorities (black and Hispanic) plus single women, millennials (born between 1982 and 2000) and secular v**ers together formed 51% of the e*****rate in 2012; and will reach a politically critical 63% next year.

ADVERTISING


And each of these groups is giving Clinton, or whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate for the 2016 White House race, at least a two-to-one advantage over a Republican party whose brand has been badly tarnished.

The country today, particularly the bigger urban centres, is being dramatically remade by the hi-tech, internet, big data and energy revolutions. Just as important are the revolutions in migration, the family, g****r roles and religion. Together these revolutions are producing seismic and accelerating changes to the economy, culture and politics – which is what animates so many Republican candidates. America is emerging as racially blended, immigrant, multinational, multicultural and multilingual – a diversity that is ever more central to its political identity. We are not talking here about trends, but profound demographic changes accompanied by a dramatic shift in values. They have produced a country where racial minorities form 38% of the population, and 15% of new marriages are interracial. One in five global migrants end up in the US, and thus nearly 40% of the populations of New York and Los Angeles are foreign born, as are 50% of Silicon Valley’s engineers and more than half of US Nobel laureates.

Since 2011 a majority of Americans have been living in unmarried households, and a diversity of family types – from same-sex marriages and cohabitation to remarriage after divorce, delayed child-rearing, childlessness and those who never marry – is now accepted. Millennials are in fact marrying later and having few children, while working class women are avoiding marriage with working class men who are no longer assured of secure, decent-paying manufacturing jobs. With the traditional male breadwinner role nearly extinct, three-quarters of women are now in the labour force and two-thirds are the principal or joint breadwinner. The result: single women will form a quarter of the e*****rate in 2016. Religious observance meanwhile has plummeted across all religious denominations, with the exception of white evangelicals. People who define themselves as secular now outnumber mainline Protestants.

The political landscape is also being reshaped by a reversal of the historic pattern of mobility and home ownership. The middle class ladder used to take every generation and new wave of immigrants from city centres to suburbs to the exurbs. But in the past decade cities, with their falling crime rates, have attracted more people – particularly retiring baby boomers – than suburbs, and real estate values in metropolitan areas have risen faster than elsewhere and created more jobs. At the same time, only half of millennials have a driver’s licence, the right of passage for prior generations.


Not only are baby boomers now outnumbered by millennials – but also the groups could not be more different: 66% of boomers are married, 72% are white and their income is $13,904 above the national median; over 40% of millennials are racial minorities, 60% are single and three-quarters believe America’s diversity of race, ethnicity and language makes the country stronger.

All this social disruption has taken place at remarkable speed: the political centre of gravity has in effect swung from right to centre in under a decade. When Barack Obama first ran for the White House in 2008, 46% of Americans described themselves as conservative, but that has fallen to 37% now. In some national polls, the number of American liberals equals the number of conservatives. Gallup marked 2015 as the year when cultural attitudes reached a significant benchmark: when 60-70% of the country said gay and lesbian relations, having a baby outside marriage or sex between unmarried women and men were all “morally acceptable”.

The shift marked by these polls reflects the new American majority and explains why next year’s e******n will prove shattering and d******e for the Republican party, even if it retains its strongholds in the House of Representatives and states.
It also explains why, since 2004, Republicanshave been engaged in a ferocious counter-revolution to stop these new and expanding demographic groups from coalescing to form a politically coherent bloc capable of governing successfully. The tactic adopted by Karl Rove, George W Bush’s e******n strategist, and other social conservatives was to forsake “big tent Republicanism” and the swing v**er. Instead of an earlier emphasis on “compassion” or the “Latino v**e”, they made politics a battle for social and cultural values – “American values” – that would raise the stakes and engage those who leaned furthest to the right, particularly evangelicals and the religiously observant. Rove’s ambition was to create a permanent Republican majority, and he saw “moral” issues such as opposition to gay marriage as the most powerful force in politics. Indeed, he used them to galvanise enough support to get Bush re-elected in November 2004.

But the culture war ignited by Rove is a fire that requires ever more toxic fuel – it only works by raising fears of the moral and social Armageddon that would follow a Democratic victory.

The Republicans have, of course, won big numbers of seats at state level and in off-year e******ns in the past decade. However, their conservative supporters, motivated by moral purpose, are now angry that Republican leaders have failed to stop Obama, particularly as the country, as they see it, tips into global and economic oblivion.

On the other hand, this intensifying battle for values has also left the Republicans with the oldest, most rural, most religiously observant, and most likely to be married white v**ers in the country. These trends have pushed states with large, growing metropolitan centres, such as Florida, Virginia and Colorado, over the blue Democratic wall, creating formidable odds against Republicans winning the e*******l college majority needed to win the presidency.
Encamped in the 20 states of the south, the Appalachian valley, parts of the plains states and Mountain West, conservatives have waged their culture wars to great effect. But those states account for only 25% of the v**ers. Success here turns Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz into plausible candidates – but not plausible presidents in a country that is past the new e*******l tipping point. America will get to send that message 12 months from now.
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the for... (show quote)






MORON ALERT!!! MORON ALERT!!!! The MO of liberal progressive low-information useful i***ts believing the crap put out by the "drive-by, state-run" media and the "alphabet" channels would be hilarious if it wasn't so - i***tic.

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Nov 6, 2015 17:28:49   #
Richard94611
 
Go ahead -- deny demographics ! Doesn't matter to me that you don't believe in them. The power of demographics is inexorable, whether you like ter results or not.


robmull wrote:
MORON ALERT!!! MORON ALERT!!!! The MO of liberal progressive low-information useful i***ts believing the crap put out by the "drive-by, state-run" media and the "alphabet" channels would be hilarious if it wasn't so - i***tic.

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Nov 7, 2015 09:25:23   #
Kazudy
 
You could be right. But I pray that you are wrong. Liberalism really hurt this country. America pray for revival.

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Nov 7, 2015 10:48:23   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Richard94611 wrote:
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the forces of demography cannot at this stage be stopped. Thank goodness !




I’ve Seen America’s Future and It's Not Republican
New and profound demographic changes will give the Democrats a huge advantage in the 2016 e******n, and beyond.
By Stan Greenberg / The Guardian November 6, 2015


Given the kind of things the Republican p**********l candidates have been saying every day for weeks now, you might reasonably conclude that US politics is stuck not just in another decade, but in a previous century. Ben Carson thinks Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since s***ery”. To boost an argument against gun control Carson also said that Hitler would have k**led fewer Jews in the Holocaust “if the people had been armed”. Donald Trump, meanwhile, would expel 12 million undocumented migrants because so many are “criminals, murderers and rapists”. Carly Fiorina asserts that “every single policy” Hillary Clinton espouses, including paid family leave and equal pay for women, “has been demonstrably bad for women”.

This Republican race to the political bottom is happening because America’s conservatives are losing the culture wars. The US is now beyond the e*******l tipping point, driven by a new progressive majority in the e*****rate: racial minorities (black and Hispanic) plus single women, millennials (born between 1982 and 2000) and secular v**ers together formed 51% of the e*****rate in 2012; and will reach a politically critical 63% next year.

ADVERTISING


And each of these groups is giving Clinton, or whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate for the 2016 White House race, at least a two-to-one advantage over a Republican party whose brand has been badly tarnished.

The country today, particularly the bigger urban centres, is being dramatically remade by the hi-tech, internet, big data and energy revolutions. Just as important are the revolutions in migration, the family, g****r roles and religion. Together these revolutions are producing seismic and accelerating changes to the economy, culture and politics – which is what animates so many Republican candidates. America is emerging as racially blended, immigrant, multinational, multicultural and multilingual – a diversity that is ever more central to its political identity. We are not talking here about trends, but profound demographic changes accompanied by a dramatic shift in values. They have produced a country where racial minorities form 38% of the population, and 15% of new marriages are interracial. One in five global migrants end up in the US, and thus nearly 40% of the populations of New York and Los Angeles are foreign born, as are 50% of Silicon Valley’s engineers and more than half of US Nobel laureates.

Since 2011 a majority of Americans have been living in unmarried households, and a diversity of family types – from same-sex marriages and cohabitation to remarriage after divorce, delayed child-rearing, childlessness and those who never marry – is now accepted. Millennials are in fact marrying later and having few children, while working class women are avoiding marriage with working class men who are no longer assured of secure, decent-paying manufacturing jobs. With the traditional male breadwinner role nearly extinct, three-quarters of women are now in the labour force and two-thirds are the principal or joint breadwinner. The result: single women will form a quarter of the e*****rate in 2016. Religious observance meanwhile has plummeted across all religious denominations, with the exception of white evangelicals. People who define themselves as secular now outnumber mainline Protestants.

The political landscape is also being reshaped by a reversal of the historic pattern of mobility and home ownership. The middle class ladder used to take every generation and new wave of immigrants from city centres to suburbs to the exurbs. But in the past decade cities, with their falling crime rates, have attracted more people – particularly retiring baby boomers – than suburbs, and real estate values in metropolitan areas have risen faster than elsewhere and created more jobs. At the same time, only half of millennials have a driver’s licence, the right of passage for prior generations.


Not only are baby boomers now outnumbered by millennials – but also the groups could not be more different: 66% of boomers are married, 72% are white and their income is $13,904 above the national median; over 40% of millennials are racial minorities, 60% are single and three-quarters believe America’s diversity of race, ethnicity and language makes the country stronger.

All this social disruption has taken place at remarkable speed: the political centre of gravity has in effect swung from right to centre in under a decade. When Barack Obama first ran for the White House in 2008, 46% of Americans described themselves as conservative, but that has fallen to 37% now. In some national polls, the number of American liberals equals the number of conservatives. Gallup marked 2015 as the year when cultural attitudes reached a significant benchmark: when 60-70% of the country said gay and lesbian relations, having a baby outside marriage or sex between unmarried women and men were all “morally acceptable”.

The shift marked by these polls reflects the new American majority and explains why next year’s e******n will prove shattering and d******e for the Republican party, even if it retains its strongholds in the House of Representatives and states.
It also explains why, since 2004, Republicanshave been engaged in a ferocious counter-revolution to stop these new and expanding demographic groups from coalescing to form a politically coherent bloc capable of governing successfully. The tactic adopted by Karl Rove, George W Bush’s e******n strategist, and other social conservatives was to forsake “big tent Republicanism” and the swing v**er. Instead of an earlier emphasis on “compassion” or the “Latino v**e”, they made politics a battle for social and cultural values – “American values” – that would raise the stakes and engage those who leaned furthest to the right, particularly evangelicals and the religiously observant. Rove’s ambition was to create a permanent Republican majority, and he saw “moral” issues such as opposition to gay marriage as the most powerful force in politics. Indeed, he used them to galvanise enough support to get Bush re-elected in November 2004.

But the culture war ignited by Rove is a fire that requires ever more toxic fuel – it only works by raising fears of the moral and social Armageddon that would follow a Democratic victory.

The Republicans have, of course, won big numbers of seats at state level and in off-year e******ns in the past decade. However, their conservative supporters, motivated by moral purpose, are now angry that Republican leaders have failed to stop Obama, particularly as the country, as they see it, tips into global and economic oblivion.

On the other hand, this intensifying battle for values has also left the Republicans with the oldest, most rural, most religiously observant, and most likely to be married white v**ers in the country. These trends have pushed states with large, growing metropolitan centres, such as Florida, Virginia and Colorado, over the blue Democratic wall, creating formidable odds against Republicans winning the e*******l college majority needed to win the presidency.
Encamped in the 20 states of the south, the Appalachian valley, parts of the plains states and Mountain West, conservatives have waged their culture wars to great effect. But those states account for only 25% of the v**ers. Success here turns Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz into plausible candidates – but not plausible presidents in a country that is past the new e*******l tipping point. America will get to send that message 12 months from now.
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the for... (show quote)


If your thesis is that America is dying because of the Marxist progressive philosophy I would have to agree with you. However, if you believe you will win without an eventual bloody revolution you have no comprehension of the visceral hatred that you have caused within traditional, freedom loving, patriotic, and moral Americans. All it will take is a spark so be careful how far you progressives go. There are many of us ready to change our world for our grandchildren. Perhaps, as Jefferson noted, it is time for the tree of liberty to be refreshed.

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Nov 7, 2015 15:57:30   #
Richard94611
 
You've got my thesis all wrong. First, I don't think America is dying. I think we are making progress and regenerating into what will be a better world for us all. We will win without a bloody revolution because unbalanced people such as yourself are in a very tiny minority, and will not be able to stop progress. You folks are NOT freedom loving, traditional, patriotic and moral people. You are unbalanced crackpots. As for the success of your revolution, maybe you have never seen lines of tanks and armored personal carriers in action. Any efforts you and your kind might make to thwart normal, constitutional political process will not even amount to a piss hole in the snow. You have delusions of grandeur.

padremike wrote:
If your thesis is that America is dying because of the Marxist progressive philosophy I would have to agree with you. However, if you believe you will win without an eventual bloody revolution you have no comprehension of the visceral hatred that you have caused within traditional, freedom loving, patriotic, and moral Americans. All it will take is a spark so be careful how far you progressives go. There are many of us ready to change our world for our grandchildren. Perhaps, as Jefferson noted, it is time for the tree of liberty to be refreshed.
If your thesis is that America is dying because of... (show quote)

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Nov 7, 2015 17:42:28   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Richard94611 wrote:
You've got my thesis all wrong. First, I don't think America is dying. I think we are making progress and regenerating into what will be a better world for us all. We will win without a bloody revolution because unbalanced people such as yourself are in a very tiny minority, and will not be able to stop progress. You folks are NOT freedom loving, traditional, patriotic and moral people. You are unbalanced crackpots. As for the success of your revolution, maybe you have never seen lines of tanks and armored personal carriers in action. Any efforts you and your kind might make to thwart normal, constitutional political process will not even amount to a piss hole in the snow. You have delusions of grandeur.
You've got my thesis all wrong. First, I don't th... (show quote)


I want you to do the impossible - pay strict attention! What you believe is a small minority is larger than you believe. I was raised in an America where that which was taught at home was reinforced in our schools, our churches, our communities, and our Nation. They were Traditional morals, values and spirituality supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. You captured the Democratic party and destroyed it. Unfortunate for you, many of us still possessed those strong morals and values, unlike you secular Marxist progressives, we did not change. We didn't change primarily because we were instilled with character building traits and discipline. The Marxist, hedonistic, moral relativistic philosophy to which you progressives subscribe we recognize and loudly acknowledged as a pervasive evil, out of step and destructive to a traditional and successful America. You stupid, uneducated and thoroughly indoctrinated dullards know nothing about the true American ethos and your president violates the constitution and our laws with impunity. Your ideology and philosophy supports lying to obtain all your illegal agenda as a virtue. The progressive government you foster under Obama and his mob is neither American nor constitutional and has purposely caused the division and hatred amongst americans - black, white, male and female. And if you're believe that if and when the time may come for an armed r*******n that the Marxists will have full control of the military you'd better find another rock to crawl under. Don't forget that the largest standing army in the world is arms in the hands of freedom loving Americans. One way or another, you will not win! You progressives are a cancer, your philosophy is deadly to both body and soul. In a word, you are evil and yet you have no knowledge of what is the true meaning of evil. The second amendment, according to Jefferson, is to insure your changes to America cannot long endure. But positive change is in the air. Already the American people are turning and rejecting your evil philosophy but if it doesn't happen in a peaceful change returning us to a traditional constitutional representative republic, it will change the hard way. You can chip it in stone or engrave it on your tombstones. What you call progress was once understood as evil. Evil, in the end, always loses.

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Nov 7, 2015 17:54:06   #
Jeffhunter
 
Richard94611 wrote:
You've got my thesis all wrong. First, I don't think America is dying. I think we are making progress and regenerating into what will be a better world for us all. We will win without a bloody revolution because unbalanced people such as yourself are in a very tiny minority, and will not be able to stop progress. You folks are NOT freedom loving, traditional, patriotic and moral people. You are unbalanced crackpots. As for the success of your revolution, maybe you have never seen lines of tanks and armored personal carriers in action. Any efforts you and your kind might make to thwart normal, constitutional political process will not even amount to a piss hole in the snow. You have delusions of grandeur.
You've got my thesis all wrong. First, I don't th... (show quote)


I must concur :
The republicans are gonna blame all the welfare people and the i*****l a***ns when they lose :thumbup:

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Nov 7, 2015 18:02:06   #
Jeffhunter
 
padremike wrote:
I want you to do the impossible - pay strict attention! What you believe is a small minority is larger than you believe. I was raised in an America where that which was taught at home was reinforced in our schools, our churches, our communities, and our Nation. They were Traditional morals, values and spirituality supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. You captured the Democratic party and destroyed it. Unfortunate for you, many of us still possessed those strong morals and values, unlike you secular Marxist progressives, we did not change. We didn't change primarily because we were instilled with character building traits and discipline. The Marxist, hedonistic, moral relativistic philosophy to which you progressives subscribe we recognize and loudly acknowledged as a pervasive evil, out of step and destructive to a traditional and successful America. You stupid, uneducated and thoroughly indoctrinated dullards know nothing about the true American ethos and your president violates the constitution and our laws with impunity. Your ideology and philosophy supports lying to obtain all your illegal agenda as a virtue. The progressive government you foster under Obama and his mob is neither American nor constitutional and has purposely caused the division and hatred amongst americans - black, white, male and female. And if you're believe that if and when the time may come for an armed r*******n that the Marxists will have full control of the military you'd better find another rock to crawl under. Don't forget that the largest standing army in the world is arms in the hands of freedom loving Americans. One way or another, you will not win! You progressives are a cancer, your philosophy is deadly to both body and soul. In a word, you are evil and yet you have no knowledge of what is the true meaning of evil. The second amendment, according to Jefferson, is to insure your changes to America cannot long endure. But positive change is in the air. Already the American people are turning and rejecting your evil philosophy but if it doesn't happen in a peaceful change returning us to a traditional constitutional representative republic, it will change the hard way. You can chip it in stone or engrave it on your tombstones. What you call progress was once understood as evil. Evil, in the end, always loses.
I want you to do the impossible - pay strict atten... (show quote)


JFC! You sound like a goddam terrorist! You really have your panties in bunch because your commander in chief is n****r? Calm down and help your party help its self. Start by supporting policies that will help the greatest free nation of people ever to exist not his planet to prosper. Your trying to d**g yhe nation down to a civil war free for all.think this through for CHRISTSAKE , the country is not that bad right now. Try to make things better not destroy everything. :thumbdown:

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Nov 7, 2015 19:24:16   #
Richard94611
 
PadreMike, you are full of it.

padremike wrote:
I want you to do the impossible - pay strict attention! What you believe is a small minority is larger than you believe. I was raised in an America where that which was taught at home was reinforced in our schools, our churches, our communities, and our Nation. They were Traditional morals, values and spirituality supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. You captured the Democratic party and destroyed it. Unfortunate for you, many of us still possessed those strong morals and values, unlike you secular Marxist progressives, we did not change. We didn't change primarily because we were instilled with character building traits and discipline. The Marxist, hedonistic, moral relativistic philosophy to which you progressives subscribe we recognize and loudly acknowledged as a pervasive evil, out of step and destructive to a traditional and successful America. You stupid, uneducated and thoroughly indoctrinated dullards know nothing about the true American ethos and your president violates the constitution and our laws with impunity. Your ideology and philosophy supports lying to obtain all your illegal agenda as a virtue. The progressive government you foster under Obama and his mob is neither American nor constitutional and has purposely caused the division and hatred amongst americans - black, white, male and female. And if you're believe that if and when the time may come for an armed r*******n that the Marxists will have full control of the military you'd better find another rock to crawl under. Don't forget that the largest standing army in the world is arms in the hands of freedom loving Americans. One way or another, you will not win! You progressives are a cancer, your philosophy is deadly to both body and soul. In a word, you are evil and yet you have no knowledge of what is the true meaning of evil. The second amendment, according to Jefferson, is to insure your changes to America cannot long endure. But positive change is in the air. Already the American people are turning and rejecting your evil philosophy but if it doesn't happen in a peaceful change returning us to a traditional constitutional representative republic, it will change the hard way. You can chip it in stone or engrave it on your tombstones. What you call progress was once understood as evil. Evil, in the end, always loses.
I want you to do the impossible - pay strict atten... (show quote)

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Nov 7, 2015 20:03:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Jeffh****r wrote:
JFC! You sound like a goddam terrorist! You really have your panties in bunch because your commander in chief is n****r? Calm down and help your party help its self. Start by supporting policies that will help the greatest free nation of people ever to exist not his planet to prosper. Your trying to d**g yhe nation down to a civil war free for all.think this through for CHRISTSAKE , the country is not that bad right now. Try to make things better not destroy everything. :thumbdown:


Just what I thought, you don't know the difference between a terrorist and a patriot. If you think we're free you must be a kid and have nothing to compare what we are now, under you progressives, to what we were 60 years ago. I would rather be part of those who would d**g our Nation to civil war and freedom than be part of your mob d**gging the nation into bankruptcy, servitude and hell.

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Nov 7, 2015 20:07:09   #
Richard94611
 
PadreMike, I am considerably older than 60 years and I remember very well what those "golden years" were like -- those years when they were still lynching b****s in the South, the wonderful years of Joseph McCarthy and his campaign of terror that had most of America quaking in their shoes, and I can tell you that you are the one who has terrorists and patriots confused. As a matter of fact, despite the opposition of people like yourself -- small-minded, bigoted, f*****t conservatives -- Obama has done quite a good job in pulling us out of the mess your beloved George W. Bush left this country in when he departed the presidency.

padremike wrote:
Just what I thought, you don't know the difference between a terrorist and a patriot. If you think we're free you must be a kid and have nothing to compare what we are now, under you progressives, to what we were 60 years ago. I would rather be part of those who would d**g our Nation to civil war and freedom than be part of your mob d**gging the nation into bankruptcy, servitude and hell.

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Nov 7, 2015 20:13:03   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
The reason, of course, is demographic, and the forces of demography cannot at this stage be stopped. Thank goodness !




I’ve Seen America’s Future and It's Not Republican
New and profound demographic changes will give the Democrats a huge advantage in the 2016 e******n, and beyond.
By Stan Greenberg / The Guardian November 6, 2015


Given the kind of things the Republican p**********l candidates have been saying every day for weeks now, you might reasonably conclude that US politics is stuck not just in another decade, but in a previous century. Ben Carson thinks Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since s***ery”. To boost an argument against gun control Carson also said that Hitler would have k**led fewer Jews in the Holocaust “if the people had been armed”. Donald Trump, meanwhile, would expel 12 million undocumented migrants because so many are “criminals, murderers and rapists”. Carly Fiorina asserts that “every single policy” Hillary Clinton espouses, including paid family leave and equal pay for women, “has been demonstrably bad for women”.

This Republican race to the political bottom is happening because America’s conservatives are losing the culture wars. The US is now beyond the e*******l tipping point, driven by a new progressive majority in the e*****rate: racial minorities (black and Hispanic) plus single women, millennials (born between 1982 and 2000) and secular v**ers together formed 51% of the e*****rate in 2012; and will reach a politically critical 63% next year.

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And each of these groups is giving Clinton, or whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate for the 2016 White House race, at least a two-to-one advantage over a Republican party whose brand has been badly tarnished.

The country today, particularly the bigger urban centres, is being dramatically remade by the hi-tech, internet, big data and energy revolutions. Just as important are the revolutions in migration, the family, g****r roles and religion. Together these revolutions are producing seismic and accelerating changes to the economy, culture and politics – which is what animates so many Republican candidates. America is emerging as racially blended, immigrant, multinational, multicultural and multilingual – a diversity that is ever more central to its political identity. We are not talking here about trends, but profound demographic changes accompanied by a dramatic shift in values. They have produced a country where racial minorities form 38% of the population, and 15% of new marriages are interracial. One in five global migrants end up in the US, and thus nearly 40% of the populations of New York and Los Angeles are foreign born, as are 50% of Silicon Valley’s engineers and more than half of US Nobel laureates.

Since 2011 a majority of Americans have been living in unmarried households, and a diversity of family types – from same-sex marriages and cohabitation to remarriage after divorce, delayed child-rearing, childlessness and those who never marry – is now accepted. Millennials are in fact marrying later and having few children, while working class women are avoiding marriage with working class men who are no longer assured of secure, decent-paying manufacturing jobs. With the traditional male breadwinner role nearly extinct, three-quarters of women are now in the labour force and two-thirds are the principal or joint breadwinner. The result: single women will form a quarter of the e*****rate in 2016. Religious observance meanwhile has plummeted across all religious denominations, with the exception of white evangelicals. People who define themselves as secular now outnumber mainline Protestants.

The political landscape is also being reshaped by a reversal of the historic pattern of mobility and home ownership. The middle class ladder used to take every generation and new wave of immigrants from city centres to suburbs to the exurbs. But in the past decade cities, with their falling crime rates, have attracted more people – particularly retiring baby boomers – than suburbs, and real estate values in metropolitan areas have risen faster than elsewhere and created more jobs. At the same time, only half of millennials have a driver’s licence, the right of passage for prior generations.


Not only are baby boomers now outnumbered by millennials – but also the groups could not be more different: 66% of boomers are married, 72% are white and their income is $13,904 above the national median; over 40% of millennials are racial minorities, 60% are single and three-quarters believe America’s diversity of race, ethnicity and language makes the country stronger.

All this social disruption has taken place at remarkable speed: the political centre of gravity has in effect swung from right to centre in under a decade. When Barack Obama first ran for the White House in 2008, 46% of Americans described themselves as conservative, but that has fallen to 37% now. In some national polls, the number of American liberals equals the number of conservatives. Gallup marked 2015 as the year when cultural attitudes reached a significant benchmark: when 60-70% of the country said gay and lesbian relations, having a baby outside marriage or sex between unmarried women and men were all “morally acceptable”.

The shift marked by these polls reflects the new American majority and explains why next year’s e******n will prove shattering and d******e for the Republican party, even if it retains its strongholds in the House of Representatives and states.
It also explains why, since 2004, Republicanshave been engaged in a ferocious counter-revolution to stop these new and expanding demographic groups from coalescing to form a politically coherent bloc capable of governing successfully. The tactic adopted by Karl Rove, George W Bush’s e******n strategist, and other social conservatives was to forsake “big tent Republicanism” and the swing v**er. Instead of an earlier emphasis on “compassion” or the “Latino v**e”, they made politics a battle for social and cultural values – “American values” – that would raise the stakes and engage those who leaned furthest to the right, particularly evangelicals and the religiously observant. Rove’s ambition was to create a permanent Republican majority, and he saw “moral” issues such as opposition to gay marriage as the most powerful force in politics. Indeed, he used them to galvanise enough support to get Bush re-elected in November 2004.

But the culture war ignited by Rove is a fire that requires ever more toxic fuel – it only works by raising fears of the moral and social Armageddon that would follow a Democratic victory.

The Republicans have, of course, won big numbers of seats at state level and in off-year e******ns in the past decade. However, their conservative supporters, motivated by moral purpose, are now angry that Republican leaders have failed to stop Obama, particularly as the country, as they see it, tips into global and economic oblivion.

On the other hand, this intensifying battle for values has also left the Republicans with the oldest, most rural, most religiously observant, and most likely to be married white v**ers in the country. These trends have pushed states with large, growing metropolitan centres, such as Florida, Virginia and Colorado, over the blue Democratic wall, creating formidable odds against Republicans winning the e*******l college majority needed to win the presidency.
Encamped in the 20 states of the south, the Appalachian valley, parts of the plains states and Mountain West, conservatives have waged their culture wars to great effect. But those states account for only 25% of the v**ers. Success here turns Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz into plausible candidates – but not plausible presidents in a country that is past the new e*******l tipping point. America will get to send that message 12 months from now.
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Thats a very interesting prediction , do you throw the bones ,polish your crystal ball , stick needels in a doll,, How on earth do you obtain such devine knowladge, ammmmmaaaazzzziiiinnnggg!!

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Nov 7, 2015 20:16:26   #
Richard94611
 
One of the things I do is spell "needels" and "devine" and "knowladge" properly. The other thing I do is understand that you cannot fight demographics. You might as well stand on the beach and stick your hand out, trying to stop the waves from coming in, despite the fact that with certainty you will be inundated. You cannot fight demographics as demographics will ALWAYS win.

reconreb wrote:
Thats a very interesting prediction , do you throw the bones ,polish your crystal ball , stick needels in a doll,, How on earth do you obtain such devine knowladge, ammmmmaaaazzzziiiinnnggg!!

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Nov 7, 2015 20:31:56   #
boofhead
 
padremike wrote:
I want you to do the impossible - pay strict attention! What you believe is a small minority is larger than you believe. I was raised in an America where that which was taught at home was reinforced in our schools, our churches, our communities, and our Nation. They were Traditional morals, values and spirituality supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. You captured the Democratic party and destroyed it. Unfortunate for you, many of us still possessed those strong morals and values, unlike you secular Marxist progressives, we did not change. We didn't change primarily because we were instilled with character building traits and discipline. The Marxist, hedonistic, moral relativistic philosophy to which you progressives subscribe we recognize and loudly acknowledged as a pervasive evil, out of step and destructive to a traditional and successful America. You stupid, uneducated and thoroughly indoctrinated dullards know nothing about the true American ethos and your president violates the constitution and our laws with impunity. Your ideology and philosophy supports lying to obtain all your illegal agenda as a virtue. The progressive government you foster under Obama and his mob is neither American nor constitutional and has purposely caused the division and hatred amongst americans - black, white, male and female. And if you're believe that if and when the time may come for an armed r*******n that the Marxists will have full control of the military you'd better find another rock to crawl under. Don't forget that the largest standing army in the world is arms in the hands of freedom loving Americans. One way or another, you will not win! You progressives are a cancer, your philosophy is deadly to both body and soul. In a word, you are evil and yet you have no knowledge of what is the true meaning of evil. The second amendment, according to Jefferson, is to insure your changes to America cannot long endure. But positive change is in the air. Already the American people are turning and rejecting your evil philosophy but if it doesn't happen in a peaceful change returning us to a traditional constitutional representative republic, it will change the hard way. You can chip it in stone or engrave it on your tombstones. What you call progress was once understood as evil. Evil, in the end, always loses.
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Padremike, you are 100 percent right. Many of us feel the same way, and I hope we represent more than half of the population. We definitely represent the majority of the sane citizens, and the majority of those who love this country, our kids and grandkids, and can still reason.

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