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Nov 5, 2015 01:12:26   #
moldyoldy
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Not buying it, far more to it than that Moldy.
First of all they are packaged, why was it not in its box? Or that damn plastic heat sealed casket you need a pair of boning shears just to open.

I have bought several bb guns frm wallyworld, they are cased...all of them down to the lowly red ryder, the bar code is on the package...are we sure he just picked it up? And in seconds, pretty damn good response time...far more going on there.


There was video from start to finish

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Nov 5, 2015 05:21:02   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There was video from start to finish



Where did this happen? I will look for the video

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Nov 5, 2015 08:20:59   #
DamnYANKEE
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Colorado Man Goes on Murderous Rampage After 911 Dispatcher Lectures Panicked Caller on Open Carry Law

Here's how open carry laws prevent police from responding to k**lers on the loose.

By Travis Gettys / Raw Story

November 4, 2015

A neighbor might have helped stop a Colorado man from k*****g three people as he roamed around with a military-style rifle, but the state’s open carry law apparently prevented police from following up on her concerned report.

Naomi Bettis called 911 Saturday after spotting her neighbor, who she recognized but did not know by name, walking outside his home with an AR-15 rifle, reported the Denver Post.

“He did have a distraught look on his face,” Bettis said. “It looked like he had a rough couple days or so.”

However, the 911 dispatcher declined to send police and reminded Bettis that Colorado allows gun owners to legally and publicly carry their firearms out in the open.

Police eventually did respond — but not until 33-year-old Noah Harpham had already shot two women and a man with the rifle that had concerned his neighbor at least several minutes earlier.

Authorities identified the victims Monday evening as 35-year-old Andrew Alan Myers, 42-year-old Jennifer Michelle Vasquez, and 34-year-old Christina Rose Baccus-Gallela.

Police responded shortly before 9 a.m. Saturday to a report of a possible shooting, and they found Myers dead and a fire burning, according to dispatch logs.

Witnesses said Harpham shot his victims one by one as they begged for their lives.

“It looked totally random,” said neighbor Matthew Abshire, who followed the gunman and called the police. “He walked calmly and collectedly. His demeanor was like he was having a stroll in the park.”

Police fatally shot Harpham about seven minutes after they first arrived at the scene, but not before he k**led his victims one by one — including a bicyclist who begged for his life.

It’s not clear at this point how much time passed between Bettis’ call and the first shooting — which prompted a flood of 911 calls.

But the case stands in contrast to at least three others in states that permit the open carry of firearms.

Dispatchers declined to respond to the report about Harpham, who was white, and reminded the caller, who is also white, that Colorado is an open carry state.

However, dispatchers in Ohio sent police to two calls last year involving John Crawford, a black man, and Tamir Rice, a black boy, who were each shot and k**led on sight by law enforcement officers — although they were each carrying toy weapons in an open carry state.

Another black man, Darrien Hunt, was fatally shot by police who responded to a report of him carrying a sword — which turned out to be a replica — along a commercial boulevard.

Ohio allows the open carry of firearms, and Utah became the second state to pass a law prohibiting cities from banning the carry of knives — which swords are generally considered to be by weapons advocates.

None of the officers involved in those fatal shootings were charged.

Watch an interview with Bettis posted online:
Colorado Man Goes on Murderous Rampage After 911 D... (show quote)


youre so stupid , no logical reply is in order . it would be over your head

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Nov 5, 2015 08:21:40   #
DamnYANKEE
 
moldyoldy wrote:
That is exactly the point. Can the dispatcher make that determination? Are there new rules in place yet to tell people what to do? This will not be the last case. Also the B****s with toy guns get shot immediately in these open carry states. Why is that?


BULLS**T :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Nov 5, 2015 08:22:36   #
DamnYANKEE
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Walking around Walmart with a BB gun to purchase it?


I***T :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Nov 5, 2015 08:23:26   #
DamnYANKEE
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He had picked up a BB gun, in the store. The cops showed up and k**led him within seconds.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Nov 5, 2015 10:37:34   #
moldyoldy
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Where did this happen? I will look for the video


http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-tyc9&p=walmart%20bb%20gun%20k**led%20ohio%2c%20video&type=

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/24/6839953/video-john-crawford-walmart-police-beavercreek-ohio-toy-gun

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Nov 5, 2015 10:40:33   #
VladimirPee
 
John Crawford, 22, was carrying an MK-177 (.177 caliber) BB/Pellet Rifle, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine announced Thursday.

The weapon, manufactured by Crosman, is also known as a variable pump air rifle.

It is highly unlikely that the MK-177 would k**l a human but it can k**l squirrels, snakes, rabbits or small birds if aimed properly.




moldyoldy wrote:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-tyc9&p=walmart%20bb%20gun%20k**led%20ohio%2c%20video&type=

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/24/6839953/video-john-crawford-walmart-police-beavercreek-ohio-toy-gun



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Nov 5, 2015 10:44:42   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Colorado Man Goes on Murderous Rampage After 911 Dispatcher Lectures Panicked Caller on Open Carry Law

Here's how open carry laws prevent police from responding to k**lers on the loose.

By Travis Gettys / Raw Story

November 4, 2015

A neighbor might have helped stop a Colorado man from k*****g three people as he roamed around with a military-style rifle, but the state’s open carry law apparently prevented police from following up on her concerned report.

Naomi Bettis called 911 Saturday after spotting her neighbor, who she recognized but did not know by name, walking outside his home with an AR-15 rifle, reported the Denver Post.

“He did have a distraught look on his face,” Bettis said. “It looked like he had a rough couple days or so.”

However, the 911 dispatcher declined to send police and reminded Bettis that Colorado allows gun owners to legally and publicly carry their firearms out in the open.

Police eventually did respond — but not until 33-year-old Noah Harpham had already shot two women and a man with the rifle that had concerned his neighbor at least several minutes earlier.

Authorities identified the victims Monday evening as 35-year-old Andrew Alan Myers, 42-year-old Jennifer Michelle Vasquez, and 34-year-old Christina Rose Baccus-Gallela.

Police responded shortly before 9 a.m. Saturday to a report of a possible shooting, and they found Myers dead and a fire burning, according to dispatch logs.

Witnesses said Harpham shot his victims one by one as they begged for their lives.

“It looked totally random,” said neighbor Matthew Abshire, who followed the gunman and called the police. “He walked calmly and collectedly. His demeanor was like he was having a stroll in the park.”

Police fatally shot Harpham about seven minutes after they first arrived at the scene, but not before he k**led his victims one by one — including a bicyclist who begged for his life.

It’s not clear at this point how much time passed between Bettis’ call and the first shooting — which prompted a flood of 911 calls.

But the case stands in contrast to at least three others in states that permit the open carry of firearms.

Dispatchers declined to respond to the report about Harpham, who was white, and reminded the caller, who is also white, that Colorado is an open carry state.

However, dispatchers in Ohio sent police to two calls last year involving John Crawford, a black man, and Tamir Rice, a black boy, who were each shot and k**led on sight by law enforcement officers — although they were each carrying toy weapons in an open carry state.

Another black man, Darrien Hunt, was fatally shot by police who responded to a report of him carrying a sword — which turned out to be a replica — along a commercial boulevard.

Ohio allows the open carry of firearms, and Utah became the second state to pass a law prohibiting cities from banning the carry of knives — which swords are generally considered to be by weapons advocates.

None of the officers involved in those fatal shootings were charged.

Watch an interview with Bettis posted online:
Colorado Man Goes on Murderous Rampage After 911 D... (show quote)




So if they had no open carry they would have investigated? If that's the fact why can't they investigate any way?

Liberal Nit Whit...Man are you Fked in the head!!

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Nov 5, 2015 10:47:40   #
moldyoldy
 
Workinman wrote:
So if they had no open carry they would have investigated? If that's the fact why can't they investigate any way?

Liberal Nit Whit...Man are you Fked in the head!!


You make no sense, your coon skin hat must be too tight.

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Nov 5, 2015 10:52:58   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You make no sense, your coon skin hat must be too tight.


Here I will t y p e s l o w l y...if someone is walking around with a gun and looks disturbed weather or not the law allows it should have been investigated...just a new twist on the same old BS from you guys...

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Nov 5, 2015 11:02:09   #
moldyoldy
 
Workinman wrote:
Here I will t y p e s l o w l y...if someone is walking around with a gun and looks disturbed weather or not the law allows it should have been investigated...just a new twist on the same old BS from you guys...


Well, that was the point. The dispatcher did not send the cops, she spent her time explaining open carry law. As a precaution send the cops first.

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Nov 5, 2015 11:03:37   #
VladimirPee
 
So they problem was the dispatcher. Not the Open Carry Law


moldyoldy wrote:
Well, that was the point. The dispatcher did not send the cops, she spent her time explaining open carry law. As a precaution send the cops first.

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Nov 5, 2015 11:20:42   #
moldyoldy
 
VladimirPee wrote:
So they problem was the dispatcher. Not the Open Carry Law


Open carry is an entirely different problem.

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Nov 5, 2015 12:01:49   #
VladimirPee
 
Sorry but that is not the title of the thread YOU created

open carry laws prevent police from responding


moldyoldy wrote:
Open carry is an entirely different problem.

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