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Nov 1, 2015 11:51:23   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Do you have the courage to answer the following question

When you done destroying the middle class. What is your fate? How will you survive?
You suck the life out of anyone who is near to you. Sad as it is even your friends and family. When the middle class id gone you are finished.

Think about it.



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Nov 1, 2015 14:37:23   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
That's funny. I was just about to ask the same thing of Conservatives!!

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Nov 1, 2015 14:43:44   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
jimahrens wrote:
Do you have the courage to answer the following question

When you done destroying the middle class. What is your fate? How will you survive?
You suck the life out of anyone who is near to you. Sad as it is even your friends and family. When the middle class id gone you are finished.

Think about it.


Your premise is flawed. Liberals only suck the life out of conservatives. We bolster the middle class. Conservatives suck the life out of the middle class and bolster the elite.

We'll survive just fine and be judged well by history. Any other questions?

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Nov 1, 2015 22:26:14   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Yak all you want you have a real awaking coming don't kid yourself Your ignorance is monumental.
working class stiff wrote:
Your premise is flawed. Liberals only suck the life out of conservatives. We bolster the middle class. Conservatives suck the life out of the middle class and bolster the elite.

We'll survive just fine and be judged well by history. Any other questions?

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Nov 2, 2015 06:24:08   #
Orrie
 
You are both blaming each other when it's the g*******ts elite and bankers who control the economies of countries. They keep the poor poorer and make the rich richer. All on the backs of the middle class. They need the middle class to continue making them more powerful and rich.

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Nov 2, 2015 07:20:07   #
atc333
 
You are in a state of denial with that question. The GOP began the destruction of the middle class with Reagan's "tax cuts for job creators" and has continued ever since, the GOP's failed economic theories costing the Fed over 13 Trillion Dollars in lost tax revenues, which instead, went into the pockets, and was used to maximize the investments of the top 2%, not job creation for Americans. Today, the top 2% now own almost 50% of all the wealth of America, compared to only 8% of everything back in 1969.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/12/1335556/-The-great-Republican-tax-cut-

All anyone has to do is look at what the GOP is against, beginning with minimum wage, equal wages for equal work, paid family leave, Why not compare the increases in the income of the rich to the increases or loss of income of the 98% after factoring in inflation. Really now, just what Party is attacking the middle and well paid working classes? What party is anti union, and pro big business, anti g****l w*****g legislation in outright denial, all because it all brings in more campaign contributions?

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Nov 2, 2015 14:19:43   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
PaulPisces wrote:
That's funny. I was just about to ask the same thing of Conservatives!!







That's what liberals ALWAYS do, PP, so why should you be any different?!?!?!?

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Nov 2, 2015 17:27:39   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
I am so dam s**k of the bulls**t on here. Try to solve an issue and lies lies and more lies by the fuc*** up liberal base. Can't win on real facts keep your pie hole shut.
robmull wrote:
That's what liberals ALWAYS do, PP, so why should you be any different?!?!?!?

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Nov 2, 2015 21:26:50   #
GOP poison
 
jimahrens wrote:
Do you have the courage to answer the following question

When you done destroying the middle class. What is your fate? How will you survive?
You suck the life out of anyone who is near to you. Sad as it is even your friends and family. When the middle class id gone you are finished.

Think about it.


The only way to bolster the middle class is through labor unions. If you will simply take a graph of the decline of the middle class and a graph of the decline of unions and hold the 2 of them up they will be identical. I listened to Rush Limbaugh just a few days ago telling us what conservatives wanted for the middle class worker. What he described was union right down the line. Fair wages for a fair days work,benefits,pension,and safe working conditions. Do you really think that employers are going to give their workers these things if they are not forced to? So Rush wants what labor unions want for the employees but Rush does not want labor unions in the picture. Cannot happen

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Nov 2, 2015 21:30:07   #
GOP poison
 
PaulPisces wrote:
That's funny. I was just about to ask the same thing of Conservatives!!


Conservative have worked tirelessly to shift the power from the middle class to the 1% for the last 55 years and now all of a sudden they are concerned about the middle class? Give me a break.

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Nov 2, 2015 22:02:23   #
VladimirPee
 
working class stiff wrote:
Your premise is flawed. Liberals only suck the life out of conservatives. We bolster the middle class. Conservatives suck the life out of the middle class and bolster the elite.

We'll survive just fine and be judged well by history. Any other questions?

Democrats
Democrats...

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Nov 2, 2015 22:04:36   #
VladimirPee
 
Nonsense. The rich have become much richer under Obama. Nice try though

Obama is taking money from the Middle Class and handing it to the Rich and Poor.


In year 3, many hit with Obamacare sticker shock

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-year-3-many-hit-with-obamacare-sticker-shock/


GOP poison wrote:
Conservative have worked tirelessly to shift the power from the middle class to the 1% for the last 55 years and now all of a sudden they are concerned about the middle class? Give me a break.

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Nov 3, 2015 10:49:10   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
GOP poison wrote:
The only way to bolster the middle class is through labor unions. If you will simply take a graph of the decline of the middle class and a graph of the decline of unions and hold the 2 of them up they will be identical. I listened to Rush Limbaugh just a few days ago telling us what conservatives wanted for the middle class worker. What he described was union right down the line. Fair wages for a fair days work,benefits,pension,and safe working conditions. Do you really think that employers are going to give their workers these things if they are not forced to? So Rush wants what labor unions want for the employees but Rush does not want labor unions in the picture. Cannot happen
The only way to bolster the middle class is throug... (show quote)


Do you think that the value of a worker might be more tied with his/her sk**ls and effort than union membership? In a market economy where people get to buy what they want from whom they want, few buyers make that decision on much other than value received for money spent -

If one wants to bolster the middle class, shouldn't one focus on developing the human capital of those in the lower economic scale? If so, do we think what we see in so many of our school districts in so many urban areas are successful in developing human capital?

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Nov 3, 2015 11:10:51   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Unions are a great benefit for those that are slackers. I was a member of four different unions. One I was shop steward. I do know how Unions work. and there not working for you as an employee. Just check out what Union officials make.. That will tell you something. Unions rob incentive. Just look at the mess he Teachers Unions are in. And look who suffers, the Kids.
Dave wrote:
Do you think that the value of a worker might be more tied with his/her sk**ls and effort than union membership? In a market economy where people get to buy what they want from whom they want, few buyers make that decision on much other than value received for money spent -

If one wants to bolster the middle class, shouldn't one focus on developing the human capital of those in the lower economic scale? If so, do we think what we see in so many of our school districts in so many urban areas are successful in developing human capital?
Do you think that the value of a worker might be m... (show quote)

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Nov 3, 2015 22:06:56   #
GOP poison
 
Dave wrote:
Do you think that the value of a worker might be more tied with his/her sk**ls and effort than union membership? In a market economy where people get to buy what they want from whom they want, few buyers make that decision on much other than value received for money spent -

If one wants to bolster the middle class, shouldn't one focus on developing the human capital of those in the lower economic scale? If so, do we think what we see in so many of our school districts in so many urban areas are successful in developing human capital?
Do you think that the value of a worker might be m... (show quote)


Companies will pay their employees what they must and that is all. If they are not forced under a threat of a work stoppage they will only pay what they absolutely have to. It is business 101.
In 1985 (just before Reagans "great American expansion" which gave tax breaks to corporations that expanded their business to overseas operations) I was making 13.50 an hour. In 1988 i was making 15.00 an hour and when I retired in 1995 i was making 22 dollars an hour. People today making 13.50 an hour think they have a good job. I was making that 30 years ago. the demise of labor unions has not only affected union workers but non union workers as well. i remember the republicans always saying that if they could just get rid of the unions the companies could pay their employees better. Well, they got rid of the unions and how are the American workers doing?

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