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Nov 2, 2015 08:13:28   #
jelun
 
Your tent?
Since when is it YOUR tent?




robmull wrote:
"Bernie" is a self proclaimed Socialist, major; and another demonrat "jumping the shark." "There's NO turning back" [Alinsky], and Saul also warned in (his) "Rules...," "for the [Marx/Alinsky] c*******t movement [in Western civilization] to be 'exposed' would lead to a rapid crushing." The original c*******t movement actually visually surfaced in America in the late '60's, {SDS/Weather Underground} to stop our free-market Western culture that was just starting to ravage their comrades in Vietnam. When world-wide "journalism" and liberal progressive [c*******t] politics realized the advantage of merging [near the end of the 19th century], "the camel got his nose under [our] tent." OWS is the modern-day version of the low-information, useful i***t c*******t anarchy that is necessary to implement a deceptive and deceitful o*******w of any similence of government that is less-than c*******t. Even Socialism, as Canada is about the realize, is not the full-blown c*******m [Totalitarianism/Theocracy] that has been "pushed" by control-freaks, dictators and tyrants throughout history. America was different. A "Shining Light on the Hill," a "divinely inspired experiment;" and not only the envy of every nations' citizen, but, later, a breeding ground for diabolical "earthly" government intrusion. God works in mysterious ways, and to try to understand His immediate plan is beyond the capacity of mere mortals; but don't be fooled by those who profess other ideologies than "THE WORD."
"Bernie" is a self proclaimed Socialist,... (show quote)

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Nov 2, 2015 09:39:47   #
GRB777
 
If you read 1 Samuel chapter 8, you will see that GOD told your ancestors what would happen if you rejected him for a king{president}.He warned them over 3000 years ago. People didn't believe him then and you haven't learned one thing in all that time. You are so out of touch with GOD I'm certain you have no idea what I just pointed out to you.

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Nov 2, 2015 10:24:26   #
jelun
 
GRB777 wrote:
If you read 1 Samuel chapter 8, you will see that GOD told your ancestors what would happen if you rejected him for a king{president}.He warned them over 3000 years ago. People didn't believe him then and you haven't learned one thing in all that time. You are so out of touch with GOD I'm certain you have no idea what I just pointed out to you.


Here we go, another one who thinks that the Holy Bible is a factual resource.
I am very well in touch with God, thanks. I just reject your stories and disdain.

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Nov 2, 2015 10:54:14   #
vernon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Haha! What's wrong with that, is the "new" person - is a clone of the "old" person. No one gets to run for office that hasn't been vetted by the party leadership, if they do, they'll certainly lose, because the party will work against them.

Look at this; Bernie Sanders is running as a Democrat - but the DNC ignores him - and does it's best to encourage the MSM to ignore him as well. Why do they do that? Well, because Bernie isn't really a Democrat, he's an Independent - which makes him a worse enemy than a Republican. The DNC would rather see a Republican win - than a damn Independent - because Independents aren't loyal to ANY party.

So, if the "new" person is a Democrat or a Republican - you know automatically that they'll be just like the "old" person - regardless of what they've said in their campaign lies. That's the beauty of having Democrats and Republicans working together behind the scenes, they make damn sure that there are no rogues getting into office. If you think the "tea party" upset things in DC - think again - it was planned from the start - believing that it will get a Republican "good 'ol guy" elected President in 2016.
Haha! What's wrong with that, is the "new&quo... (show quote)



down here we have primaries and if there is not 50%+1 you get in a runoff.the parties really dont get that involved until the general e******n.

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Nov 2, 2015 11:28:14   #
jelun
 
vernon wrote:
down here we have primaries and if there is not 50%+1 you get in a runoff.the parties really dont get that involved until the general e******n.


You do know that we are all connected to the internet, right?

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Nov 2, 2015 11:47:05   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
robmull wrote:
"Bernie" is a self proclaimed Socialist, major; and another demonrat "jumping the shark." "There's NO turning back" [Alinsky], and Saul also warned in (his) "Rules...," "for the [Marx/Alinsky] c*******t movement [in Western civilization] to be 'exposed' would lead to a rapid crushing." The original c*******t movement actually visually surfaced in America in the late '60's, {SDS/Weather Underground} to stop our free-market Western culture that was just starting to ravage their comrades in Vietnam. When world-wide "journalism" and liberal progressive [c*******t] politics realized the advantage of merging [near the end of the 19th century], "the camel got his nose under [our] tent." OWS is the modern-day version of the low-information, useful i***t c*******t anarchy that is necessary to implement a deceptive and deceitful o*******w of any similence of government that is less-than c*******t. Even Socialism, as Canada is about the realize, is not the full-blown c*******m [Totalitarianism/Theocracy] that has been "pushed" by control-freaks, dictators and tyrants throughout history. America was different. A "Shining Light on the Hill," a "divinely inspired experiment;" and not only the envy of every nations' citizen, but, later, a breeding ground for diabolical "earthly" government intrusion. God works in mysterious ways, and to try to understand His immediate plan is beyond the capacity of mere mortals; but don't be fooled by those who profess other ideologies than "THE WORD."
"Bernie" is a self proclaimed Socialist,... (show quote)


Yep - but I encourage you to watch Charlie Rose and his recent interview with Bernie, where Charlie pointed out that few of Bernie's viewpoints - were actually socialist ideology. Bernie stumbled around and eventually said that he was for social programs and that's why he claims to be a socialist. His ideology is close - but NOT socialist, in fact, his viewpoints are more in keeping with the original Democratic ideology.

That makes Bernie Sanders - more of a Democrat than any Democrat currently in office or running. Bernie believes in individual liberties and that they do NOT come from the Government, they exists at birth - and that everything the Government does should enhance those liberties - not limit them. He believes that liberties and opportunity should not be determined by one's socio-economic status - but that all are equal. I see little socialist ideology there.

Bernie's big mistake was assuming that everyone knew what a real socialist was, but most people simply equate it with c*******m, which is not the same ideology. Charlie Rose tried to get Bernie to agree to stop calling himself a socialist, but Bernie is too old to change his tune now.

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Nov 2, 2015 12:19:13   #
jelun
 
Bernie Sanders has never referred to himself as a socialist that I am aware of, he has always qualified the term.

lpnmajor wrote:
Yep - but I encourage you to watch Charlie Rose and his recent interview with Bernie, where Charlie pointed out that few of Bernie's viewpoints - were actually socialist ideology. Bernie stumbled around and eventually said that he was for social programs and that's why he claims to be a socialist. His ideology is close - but NOT socialist, in fact, his viewpoints are more in keeping with the original Democratic ideology.

That makes Bernie Sanders - more of a Democrat than any Democrat currently in office or running. Bernie believes in individual liberties and that they do NOT come from the Government, they exists at birth - and that everything the Government does should enhance those liberties - not limit them. He believes that liberties and opportunity should not be determined by one's socio-economic status - but that all are equal. I see little socialist ideology there.

Bernie's big mistake was assuming that everyone knew what a real socialist was, but most people simply equate it with c*******m, which is not the same ideology. Charlie Rose tried to get Bernie to agree to stop calling himself a socialist, but Bernie is too old to change his tune now.
Yep - but I encourage you to watch Charlie Rose an... (show quote)

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Nov 2, 2015 13:28:43   #
Orrie
 
jelun wrote:
Here we go, another one who thinks that the Holy Bible is a factual resource.
I am very well in touch with God, thanks. I just reject your stories and disdain.


Well, if you think the bible is not factual then how is it that you think God is factual? How do you even know or believe there is a God? Who told you that there is a God? How can you be in touch with God if you don't believe the bible is true? So, who is lying here? You or God?

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Nov 2, 2015 14:10:33   #
vernon
 
jelun wrote:
You do know that we are all connected to the internet, right?



well just what are you talking about now.

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Nov 2, 2015 14:13:36   #
vernon
 
jelun wrote:
Bernie Sanders has never referred to himself as a socialist that I am aware of, he has always qualified the term.



i hear him say it all the time but dont feel bad hillery is as much a c*******t as bernie

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Nov 2, 2015 14:52:08   #
PRM2014
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I call it "desperation", which is all the explanation I can come up with. All of us do it, at one time or another, but some more often than others - especially during e******n campaigns. There are few of us who believe that anything a politicians says is the absolute t***h, but we still "pick" one or two to pin our hopes on, at least pretending to believe what they say.

When was the last time a politician actually did what they said they'd do, when they convinced us to v**e for them? I can't remember, but maybe your memories are better, but we still re-elect them, hoping that eventually they'll come through on at least one of their promises. Doesn't that sound like desperation to you? What else can we do?

If every politicians is a liar, about something anyway, and we have to elect one of them, how do we choose? Do we choose the one we think lied the least, or do we look for the one's that lied the most and use the process of elimination? I don't think there's an American alive today, that does NOT think that politicians have only one person they really care about, themselves, but we'll still fall in line with one of them anyway - out of desperation.

Few, if any, of the "problems" a politician takes as their trademark during a campaign, will actually be addressed if they are elected - because there are hundreds of other politicians who all have trademark "problems" that got them elected too. So, with hundreds of "problems", and hundreds of "solutions" and hundreds of "promises" to keep, it isn't a surprise that the politicians decide that it's too difficult to deal with - so don't.

We have to sort through partisan platforms, individual candidates "break out" platforms, the problems WE know about, and what all the politicians are telling us are the REAL problems, or the problems we SHOULD be concerned about - and decide what's real, imaginary or a serious concern - then decide who best "represents" our hopes about all of it. Based on the history of the last twenty years or so - we've all chosen wrong - because things have gotten only worse.

Knowing we're being lied to, by everybody currently in Government and those wanting to be in Government, we have only two choices; Choose not to make a choice ( which IS a choice in itself ), so we can blame someone else when things go south, or choose to pick one of the liars and hope like hell they didn't lie too much - and pretend we believe them. We pretty much know we're going to get screwed anyway, so I guess we'll try to pick someone that we think won't hurt us too badly - so we'll be all healed up by the time the next screwing is due.
I call it "desperation", which is all th... (show quote)


Great post, you are correct about those politicans all they do is lie. They promise to do what is good for we the people
but when they get elected, say the other party just wouldn't cooperate and couldn't do what I promised.
Been that way since I started v****g, in 1970's.
They are good liars, and making excuses as too why they can not do what they said.

They lie about social security, medacare, and making the Government smaller, never happens.

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Nov 2, 2015 16:47:39   #
payne1000
 
PRM2014 wrote:
Great post, you are correct about those politicans all they do is lie. They promise to do what is good for we the people
but when they get elected, say the other party just wouldn't cooperate and couldn't do what I promised.
Been that way since I started v****g, in 1970's.
They are good liars, and making excuses as too why they can not do what they said.

They lie about social security, medacare, and making the Government smaller, never happens.


Never happens?

Here's why:



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Nov 2, 2015 18:08:05   #
PRM2014
 
payne1000 wrote:
Never happens?

Here's why:


Obama the Blowhard, Liar-in-Chief, that is leading from behind is the problem, not Netanyahu isn't to blame.

You can blame your buddy Obama the Blowhard he is worthless. Un-fit to be in the office he is in.

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Nov 2, 2015 18:21:48   #
PRM2014
 
GRB777 wrote:
If you read 1 Samuel chapter 8, you will see that GOD told your ancestors what would happen if you rejected him for a king{president}.He warned them over 3000 years ago. People didn't believe him then and you haven't learned one thing in all that time. You are so out of touch with GOD I'm certain you have no idea what I just pointed out to you.


The Israelites wanted a King like the Nations around them,
God warned they wouldn't like that, but he allowed them to have a King. Saul was the first king and things didn't work out so good for the Israelites.

What we have now is a want-a-bee King/ Dictator, Liar-in-Chief, another Saul if you will. Obama the Blowhard should be in prison, not the white house. A LIAR and trouble maker of the worst kind. Has been causing all kinds of trouble with his Blowhard mouth.

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Nov 2, 2015 18:32:17   #
vernon
 
PRM2014 wrote:
Obama the Blowhard, Liar-in-Chief, that is leading from behind is the problem, not Netanyahu isn't to blame.

You can blame your buddy Obama the Blowhard he is worthless. Un-fit to be in the office he is in.



if i remember right 1000 believes that all our problems are caused by jews

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