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Sep 19, 2013 09:12:20   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
mohadib wrote:
And I say again what has the house passed?


Numerous budgets which Reid refused to allow to come to a v**e on the Senate floor. Immigration reform which Reid refused to allow to come to the Senate floor. Not for a v**e, not even for debate.

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Sep 19, 2013 09:23:48   #
rolieb
 
godisreal wrote:
back it up with obama seems to forget what he says from one minutes to another he drew the red line then when it was crossed I did not draw the red line congress did american people did international nations did. This is just one of his many lies, the biggest one is obama care that things is going to finish our economy but no u liberals want to place blame on Bush. NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM JUST BLAME SOMEONE ELSE AND MOVE ON AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK THEN BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. This really get old fast but u liberals seem to like it. REALLY GETS OLD THE LIES FROM OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS.
back it up with obama seems to forget what he says... (show quote)

The Bush administration was defeated by 9/11 We did exactly what the terrorism community expected,and our economy plummeted. Clinton's administration did not worsen the deficit, Bush's did. Plus Bush cost us much in the eyes of other nations. Why do i***ts consider politicians to be liars when they do what they nthink is best? I believe the common sense shown by consulting congress is smart. I also believe that if we would have attacked Syria immediately (as Bush probably would have) you same people would complain that OBama overstepped his authority. The result is what we should be looking at. A peaceful solution? Maybe. I also believe that the Middle East should police its own. Most of the problems are religious differences; many between different sects of the same religion. Israel stuck in the middle? If the world community needs to go to their defense, so be it, but not before it is necessary. We are no longer the worlds protector and by trying to maintain the status quo we are digging a deeper hole for ourselves. Lets take care of our country first.

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Sep 19, 2013 09:31:39   #
petertimber
 
mohadib wrote:
And I say again what has the house passed?


There is no house as you and I know it....
http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-eighteenth-brumaire-of-barack-obama/

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Sep 19, 2013 09:38:57   #
petertimber
 
rolieb wrote:
The Bush administration was defeated by 9/11 We did exactly what the terrorism community expected,and our economy plummeted. Clinton's administration did not worsen the deficit, Bush's did. Plus Bush cost us much in the eyes of other nations. Why do i***ts consider politicians to be liars when they do what they nthink is best? I believe the common sense shown by consulting congress is smart. I also believe that if we would have attacked Syria immediately (as Bush probably would have) you same people would complain that OBama overstepped his authority. The result is what we should be looking at. A peaceful solution? Maybe. I also believe that the Middle East should police its own. Most of the problems are religious differences; many between different sects of the same religion. Israel stuck in the middle? If the world community needs to go to their defense, so be it, but not before it is necessary. We are no longer the worlds protector and by trying to maintain the status quo we are digging a deeper hole for ourselves. Lets take care of our country first.
The Bush administration was defeated by 9/11 We di... (show quote)


Mike Savage seems to think it all about natural gas pipelines #1& 2 and then from Quatar-Jordan-Saudi Arabia-Israel and the Mediterranean coast up to and including Syria-Turkey and Europe/USA while pipeline from Iean-Iraq[Syria-Turkey-Europe/ Russia and its pipelines joining in eastern Europe. Trillions in profits for 100 energy supply to Europe might be the real reason for the middle east struggles.

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Sep 19, 2013 09:41:11   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rolieb wrote:
The Bush administration was defeated by 9/11 We did exactly what the terrorism community expected,and our economy plummeted. Clinton's administration did not worsen the deficit, Bush's did. Plus Bush cost us much in the eyes of other nations. Why do i***ts consider politicians to be liars when they do what they nthink is best? I believe the common sense shown by consulting congress is smart. I also believe that if we would have attacked Syria immediately (as Bush probably would have) you same people would complain that OBama overstepped his authority. The result is what we should be looking at. A peaceful solution? Maybe. I also believe that the Middle East should police its own. Most of the problems are religious differences; many between different sects of the same religion. Israel stuck in the middle? If the world community needs to go to their defense, so be it, but not before it is necessary. We are no longer the worlds protector and by trying to maintain the status quo we are digging a deeper hole for ourselves. Lets take care of our country first.
The Bush administration was defeated by 9/11 We di... (show quote)


I agree with your assessment of the Middle East. They have been k*****g each other over both religious and sectarian differences since the dawn of recorded history. Let them paddle their own canoes. We have spent time, effort, money, and shed both our blood and that of others protecting these ingrates from themselves. Screw 'em. The other side of the equation is that we need a government that will let us drill for our own oil and natural gas. The claim that drill permit issuance is up under the Obama Administration is misleading, at best. While the issuance of permits was up temporarily, these had already been approved by the Bush Administration. New permit issuance under Obama is down by a little over 60%. I say, energy independence, and let the Arabs do what they like.

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Sep 19, 2013 10:32:42   #
mohadib
 
banjojack wrote:
Numerous budgets which Reid refused to allow to come to a v**e on the Senate floor. Immigration reform which Reid refused to allow to come to the Senate floor. Not for a v**e, not even for debate.




Most of the bills you mention didn't have any chance of passing in the senate and the house repubs knew that, they just wanted to please the baggers

Passing meaningless legislation is what the house is all about.

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Sep 19, 2013 11:21:16   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
mohadib wrote:
Let's start with v****g to repeal Obamacare,how many times is it now? 40?

Unfortunately there is this ideology of the new right that anything from the president must be blocked regardless of any consideration of what's good for America.


Repealing AHA is "good for America". The Supreme Court said the law was Constitutional as a tax!

I know you liberals like more taxes, but how much is enough? You people think that your idea "of what's good for America" is the right and only one.

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Sep 19, 2013 11:22:40   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
banjojack wrote:
I agree with your assessment of the Middle East. They have been k*****g each other over both religious and sectarian differences since the dawn of recorded history. Let them paddle their own canoes. We have spent time, effort, money, and shed both our blood and that of others protecting these ingrates from themselves. Screw 'em. The other side of the equation is that we need a government that will let us drill for our own oil and natural gas. The claim that drill permit issuance is up under the Obama Administration is misleading, at best. While the issuance of permits was up temporarily, these had already been approved by the Bush Administration. New permit issuance under Obama is down by a little over 60%. I say, energy independence, and let the Arabs do what they like.
I agree with your assessment of the Middle East. T... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 19, 2013 11:32:58   #
mohadib
 
snowbear37 wrote:
Repealing AHA is "good for America". The Supreme Court said the law was Constitutional as a tax!

I know you liberals like more taxes, but how much is enough? You people think that your idea "of what's good for America" is the right and only one.


It's not my idea, it's whats good for America.Why do repubs only think of what's good for them instead of what's good for America?

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Sep 19, 2013 11:35:33   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
petertimber wrote:
Observing, reading what's written and what's written between the lines and looking back as well as forward one can make sound personal judgments. Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin coming from two different directions. The inherent discrepancies between Capitalism and its unequal sharing of blessings and the inherent equal sharing of miseries of Socialism both have one thing in common which is e******y. While "Capitalism seeks e******y in individual liberties, socialism seeks e******y in restrictions and servitude" (Socialism quotes)

Liberalism IMPOSES social mores, customs, laws, rules, regulations, policies and procedures. Personal freedoms impose nothing.
Observing, reading what's written and what's writt... (show quote)


:thumbup: Liberalism IMPOSES more than that. It imposes how people are supposed to think, how people are supposed to talk, what words are acceptable, and there is usually no compromise.

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Sep 19, 2013 11:38:45   #
godisreal
 
Again u want to go back and blame what good is this one. I am tired of the government lies and the shape that our country is in. I will say blaming is only just not answering the problems. I personally thing that the answers are to limit put term limit on congress and senators. I also think that we have to return to the basic of government. LESS GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN THE PEOPLE LIES. THE ECONOMY IS GOTTEN WORSE ANY OBAMA HAS BEEN IN SO NOW U WANT TO SAY BUSHS FAULT. AND NOT OBAMAS FAULT. WHY IS THAT DO U NOT SEE THAT THERE IS BLAME FOR EVERYONE HERE. WHEN WE LOSS HERE AND CHINA COMES ASKING TO PAY OUR DEBT WHO AND WHERE WILL U GO THEN.

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Sep 19, 2013 11:48:03   #
rolieb
 
snowbear37 wrote:
:thumbup: Liberalism IMPOSES more than that. It imposes how people are supposed to think, how people are supposed to talk, what words are acceptable, and there is usually no compromise.


True capitalism would weed out producers of inferior or tainted goods not inspire legislation to protect consumers at the expense of the small business who can't afford to implement the legislated requirements that address the problems caused by the huge conglomerates. Bigger is not better!! Look at recent fda decisions regarding poultry processing. Read Joel Salatins " everything I want to do is illegal" Salatin looks at both sides of the coin and his more recent book "folks,this aint normal" Try reading something other than the bs from politically motivated bs from media, mainstream or politically directed.

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Sep 19, 2013 11:50:57   #
godisreal
 
I am not listening to median or any other place I am looking at what is going on in this country. Obama in his speech said raising the debt celling does not mean it will increase our debt. Now do u believe that one?

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Sep 19, 2013 11:51:50   #
rolieb
 
godisreal wrote:
Again u want to go back and blame what good is this one. I am tired of the government lies and the shape that our country is in. I will say blaming is only just not answering the problems. I personally thing that the answers are to limit put term limit on congress and senators. I also think that we have to return to the basic of government. LESS GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN THE PEOPLE LIES. THE ECONOMY IS GOTTEN WORSE ANY OBAMA HAS BEEN IN SO NOW U WANT TO SAY BUSHS FAULT. AND NOT OBAMAS FAULT. WHY IS THAT DO U NOT SEE THAT THERE IS BLAME FOR EVERYONE HERE. WHEN WE LOSS HERE AND CHINA COMES ASKING TO PAY OUR DEBT WHO AND WHERE WILL U GO THEN.
Again u want to go back and blame what good is thi... (show quote)

I agree, the blame lies with both parties. Our economy is a joke, apyramid scheme that requires constant and continued growth. This world is finite. We can't grow forever. What can we do now, before it is too late?

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Sep 19, 2013 12:40:29   #
mohadib
 
snowbear37 wrote:
:thumbup: Liberalism IMPOSES more than that. It imposes how people are supposed to think, how people are supposed to talk, what words are acceptable, and there is usually no compromise.




Are you serious? you describe conservatives and then claim your talking about Liberals. What a joke!

Why don't you describe how conservatism allows free thinking or any thinking,and how the repub house is all about compromise?

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