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Sep 19, 2013 00:38:09   #
rumitoid
 
Yes. If you disagree, please be very specific.

Trillions on the Iraq war

Torture

The Patriot Act

De-reg of banks and Wall street

Just a few harmful things: how long is the prognosis of recovery from such devastating blows to a republic? No one and history is able to answer such a question. A compound fracture to our economy takes how long to heal? More like a stroke. Add a Republican totally do-nothing House and filabustering Senate and what do you expect?

But stop the stupid and irresponsible blaming: who cares? Yet we get lured into this mouse trap of complaint and perpetuate our problems. Finger-pointing, how mature and productive.

Dang, I have lost several letters on my laptop: sorry.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:18:07   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yes. If you disagree, please be very specific.

Trillions on the Iraq war

Torture

The Patriot Act

De-reg of banks and Wall street

Just a few harmful things: how long is the prognosis of recovery from such devastating blows to a republic? No one and history is able to answer such a question. A compound fracture to our economy takes how long to heal? More like a stroke. Add a Republican totally do-nothing House and filabustering Senate and what do you expect?

But stop the stupid and irresponsible blaming: who cares? Yet we get lured into this mouse trap of complaint and perpetuate our problems. Finger-pointing, how mature and productive.

Dang, I have lost several letters on my laptop: sorry.
Yes. If you disagree, please be very specific. br ... (show quote)


The House has done quite a bit. I'm going to be mature and productive and point a finger in exactly the right direction: Harry Reid. He is the reason the Senate went three years without passing a budget, which is their legal responsibility to do every year. He is responsible for refusing to allow needed legislation to be v**ed on because his boss didn't like it. He has even managed to frustrate more moderate members of his own party with his int***sigence.

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Sep 19, 2013 07:45:37   #
mohadib
 
banjojack wrote:
The House has done quite a bit. I'm going to be mature and productive and point a finger in exactly the right direction: Harry Reid. He is the reason the Senate went three years without passing a budget, which is their legal responsibility to do every year. He is responsible for refusing to allow needed legislation to be v**ed on because his boss didn't like it. He has even managed to frustrate more moderate members of his own party with his int***sigence.




C'mon Banjo it's pretty obvious that the house is responsible for most of what you blame reid for not doing.

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Sep 19, 2013 07:54:04   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
There is enough blame to go around, left and right, but to continue to blame Bush is pathetic. How long does a President have to be in office to start to take responsibility for his actions?? 7 years, 9 years, 20 years??!! Liberals are famous for denial, denial, denial.

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Sep 19, 2013 07:54:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
mohadib wrote:
C'mon Banjo it's pretty obvious that the house is responsible for most of what you blame reid for not doing.


Interesting claim; Congressional records back mine up. What is your source? Just curious.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:00:21   #
mohadib
 
banjojack wrote:
Interesting claim; Congressional records back mine up. What is your source? Just curious.


Let's start with v****g to repeal Obamacare,how many times is it now? 40?

Unfortunately there is this ideology of the new right that anything from the president must be blocked regardless of any consideration of what's good for America.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:06:40   #
petertimber
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yes. If you disagree, please be very specific.

Trillions on the Iraq war

Torture

The Patriot Act

De-reg of banks and Wall street

Just a few harmful things: how long is the prognosis of recovery from such devastating blows to a republic? No one and history is able to answer such a question. A compound fracture to our economy takes how long to heal? More like a stroke. Add a Republican totally do-nothing House and filabustering Senate and what do you expect?

But stop the stupid and irresponsible blaming: who cares? Yet we get lured into this mouse trap of complaint and perpetuate our problems. Finger-pointing, how mature and productive.

Dang, I have lost several letters on my laptop: sorry.
Yes. If you disagree, please be very specific. br ... (show quote)


YES Bush gave a body blow to the Bill of rights and the Constitution after 9/11. Free enterprise was the norm but when Obama came upon the scene Socialist ideology raised its head and the body blows to the Constitution and Bill of rights increased with increasing ferocity by use of the powers of EXECUTIVE ORDERS without restraint. Perspectives of the BUSH administration were reviewed by many and latent suspicions were given new life as it were. Now it would seem that both BUSH and Obama are two sides of the same coin coming from different directions.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:24:00   #
mohadib
 
petertimber wrote:
YES Bush gave a body blow to the Bill of rights and the Constitution after 9/11. Free enterprise was the norm but when Obama came upon the scene Socialist ideology raised its head and the body blows to the Constitution and Bill of rights increased with increasing ferocity by use of the powers of EXECUTIVE ORDERS without restraint. Perspectives of the BUSH administration were reviewed by many and latent suspicions were given new life as it were. Now it would seem that both BUSH and Obama are two sides of the same coin coming from different directions.
YES Bush gave a body blow to the Bill of rights a... (show quote)




We are still dealing with the "Trickle Down" effects of the bush admin. but it seems it doesn't matter who is in the white house, the big brother state will rule.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:24:36   #
godisreal
 
back it up with obama seems to forget what he says from one minutes to another he drew the red line then when it was crossed I did not draw the red line congress did american people did international nations did. This is just one of his many lies, the biggest one is obama care that things is going to finish our economy but no u liberals want to place blame on Bush. NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM JUST BLAME SOMEONE ELSE AND MOVE ON AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK THEN BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. This really get old fast but u liberals seem to like it. REALLY GETS OLD THE LIES FROM OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:28:13   #
godisreal
 
Get in the present we are dealing with obama care not the stupid trickle down economy. Get your head out of the past and think and see what it happening now. But I know u will not do that because then u have admit the t***h. Liberals like to play it someones fault, this is just plain ignore on the liberal side. Put your big boy pants on and see the t***h as what it is.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:34:49   #
mohadib
 
godisreal wrote:
back it up with obama seems to forget what he says from one minutes to another he drew the red line then when it was crossed I did not draw the red line congress did american people did international nations did. This is just one of his many lies, the biggest one is obama care that things is going to finish our economy but no u liberals want to place blame on Bush. NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM JUST BLAME SOMEONE ELSE AND MOVE ON AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK THEN BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. This really get old fast but u liberals seem to like it. REALLY GETS OLD THE LIES FROM OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS.
back it up with obama seems to forget what he says... (show quote)




Well as a Liberal I completely disagreed with Obama with the line in the sand.You seem as most on the right tend to do,to forget the disaster that was the bush admin.

Your tired of the lies from Obama and the left but yet not a peep about the bush admin. lies.Poloticians lie administrations lie, bush deserves blame and so does Obama.

Your're right about finger pointing but that's what the money that runs this country wants they want to keep us divided and pointing fingers so as to keep us distracted while they maneuver things the way they want.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:36:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
mohadib wrote:
Let's start with v****g to repeal Obamacare,how many times is it now? 40?

Unfortunately there is this ideology of the new right that anything from the president must be blocked regardless of any consideration of what's good for America.


Your contention being that Obamacare is good? Even after one of it's authors, Democratic Senator Baucus, stated that in it's current form, it is a train wreck? The same legislation that was supported so enthusiastically by the unions until they "found out what was in it," and are now just as enthusiastically opposing it, because more than 40,000 (and still climbing) union members have quit because of it? The same Obamacare that Congress and huge corporations are exempt from, but small business and private citizens are not? (Neither are unions, much to their chagrin. They carried water for Obama on this, now they're getting shafted and don't like it). The same Obamacare whose original 2000 plus pages were passed into law before anyone had read it, and now contains an additional 14,000 pages of regulations that no one has read either? THAT Obamacare? How about the Senate not passing a budget for three years when it is their sworn duty to do so every year? Harry Reid monkey wrench strikes again. As I stated, he is angering more moderate members of his own party with his int***sigence.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:50:52   #
petertimber
 
mohadib wrote:
Well as a Liberal I completely disagreed with Obama with the line in the sand.You seem as most on the right tend to do,to forget the disaster that was the bush admin.

Your tired of the lies from Obama and the left but yet not a peep about the bush admin. lies.Poloticians lie administrations lie, bush deserves blame and so does Obama.

Your're right about finger pointing but that's what the money that runs this country wants they want to keep us divided and pointing fingers so as to keep us distracted while they maneuver things the way they want.
Well as a Liberal I completely disagreed with Obam... (show quote)


Observing, reading what's written and what's written between the lines and looking back as well as forward one can make sound personal judgments. Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin coming from two different directions. The inherent discrepancies between Capitalism and its unequal sharing of blessings and the inherent equal sharing of miseries of Socialism both have one thing in common which is e******y. While "Capitalism seeks e******y in individual liberties, socialism seeks e******y in restrictions and servitude" (Socialism quotes)

Liberalism IMPOSES social mores, customs, laws, rules, regulations, policies and procedures. Personal freedoms impose nothing.

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Sep 19, 2013 08:51:05   #
mohadib
 
banjojack wrote:
Your contention being that Obamacare is good? Even after one of it's authors, Democratic Senator Baucus, stated that in it's current form, it is a train wreck? The same legislation that was supported so enthusiastically by the unions until they "found out what was in it," and are now just as enthusiastically opposing it, because more than 40,000 (and still climbing) union members have quit because of it? The same Obamacare that Congress and huge corporations are exempt from, but small business and private citizens are not? (Neither are unions, much to their chagrin. They carried water for Obama on this, now they're getting shafted and don't like it). The same Obamacare whose original 2000 plus pages were passed into law before anyone had read it, and now contains an additional 14,000 pages of regulations that no one has read either? THAT Obamacare? How about the Senate not passing a budget for three years when it is their sworn duty to do so every year? Harry Reid monkey wrench strikes again. As I stated, he is angering more moderate members of his own party with his int***sigence.
Your contention being that Obamacare is good? Even... (show quote)




And I say again what has the house passed?

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Sep 19, 2013 08:54:07   #
mohadib
 
petertimber wrote:
Observing, reading what's written and what's written between the lines and looking back as well as forward one can make sound personal judgments. Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin coming from two different directions. The inherent discrepancies between Capitalism and its unequal sharing of blessings and the inherent equal sharing of miseries of Socialism both have one thing in common which is e******y. While "Capitalism seeks e******y in individual liberties, socialism seeks e******y in restrictions and servitude" (Socialism quotes)
Observing, reading what's written and what's writt... (show quote)




Two sides of the same coin! Well said.

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