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Sep 18, 2013 19:27:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
terrylm56 wrote:
Thank you GinnyT for welcoming. When I clicked on Quote Reply, your comments were there. It will take me a bit to get this hang of this. I just like to write and I figure rest will fall into place as I go.

I agree with you on he wasn't apart of any sleeper cell or active cell for that matter. He was a loner. The people I am talking about prey on those type when certain things are needed.

There is always a reason behind their madness. The BIG PICTURE SYNDROME type of thingy, if you get my drift!

All I know is if I had 5 carriers sitting off my coast, and I wanted to figure out how I was going to take them down, or at least try to make a statement, I would go where they were drew up.

I would need a distraction, so that everybody would have to stay put. That way no one would get in my way. Who cares what is going on some where else in the building. I know how much time I would need to get the information I was needing.

Just awful funny it all fell within such a short period of time.
Thank you GinnyT for welcoming. When I clicked on... (show quote)


You are most welcome, we are glad you are here. Now, the quote reply button just helps the rest of us, but if you wish to have a one sided conversation, because many of us will just pass the postings over if we have to work too hard in figuring out to whom you are replying or reread the entire thread to get the gist of what you are saying, that of course is your choice.

Regarding the grand conspiracy theory. All you need to do is go back through history and you will notice a pattern. http://www.auburn.edu/~peteeta/massmurder2.htm Mass murders come in a number of forms but they share some pathology: Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, cited five:

• The k**ler blames others for his problems.

• He is much more likely to have a mental illness, particularly paranoid schizophrenia, than homicide perpetrators in general.

• He is often a loner, with few friends or social connections.

• He carefully plans his attacks, taking days to months to get ready.

• He is much more likely to be suicidal than a typical k**ler. "Because the mass murderer considers his life no longer worth living, he will either k**l himself or force the police to k**l him," Dr. Duwe said.

If you thought is there are drugs being given to people who visit psychologist or psychiatrist that produce mass murders, whereas they are given medications and counseling, I need to remind you that each day millions of people seek help for mental problems, and few become murders.

Yes, there has been a rash of mass murder over the past several years, but keep in mind that there was a disproportionate amount of suicides right after stock market crashes. Indeed, the number of murders increase during periods right before and at the beginning of wars and international conflict. I guess, the bottom line is the civil unrest within the US, the proposed action with Syria, the ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan, and Iran, jobless rates, stocks stagnation, among other factors are catalysts in pushing some unstable people over the edge.

Is that a large enough picture for you?

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Sep 18, 2013 19:44:57   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
terrylm56 wrote:
ginnyt

I am going to see if this works. This bunch has this crap down. They don't jack around like they did while they were learning, and working the kinks out. Just because these people are not necessarily Towel Heads does not mean they are not Terrorist! Russia doesn't plan games either, nor does China. In all reality, Al Qaeda is really just a front, if one can really call them that.


In times past, I know that there was cloak and dagger used in eliminating or disrupting day to day activities. However, most techniques have been altered to fit the times. If Russia or even China wanted to damage the US, they would hit the information highway. They would disrupt banking, redirect or misdirect troop and ship movement, or any number of hands off disruption of electronic warfare.

Russia is interested in the US, but not in the ways of 20 years or more ago. They are more interested in rebuilding their public image, rebuilding their infrastructure, and their military. They are not now, but will be in the future, a threat. China has their own problems, and they are heavy into technology. On any given day, our Pentagon and military installations are hit with thousands of intrusions on their computers. They, as well as many of the informed Americans, are well aware that we can bring a nation to its knees with a take over of technology. Our military's biggest fears at this point is not the size of opponents army, but how bright are their hackers and can a EMP be delivered before we can bring it down.

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Sep 18, 2013 20:05:50   #
terrylm56 Loc: SW Missouri
 
ginnyt wrote:
You are most welcome, we are glad you are here. Now, the quote reply button just helps the rest of us, but if you wish to have a one sided conversation, because many of us will just pass the postings over if we have to work too hard in figuring out to whom you are replying or reread the entire thread to get the gist of what you are saying, that of course is your choice.

Regarding the grand conspiracy theory. All you need to do is go back through history and you will notice a pattern. http://www.auburn.edu/~peteeta/massmurder2.htm Mass murders come in a number of forms but they share some pathology: Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, cited five:

• The k**ler blames others for his problems.

• He is much more likely to have a mental illness, particularly paranoid schizophrenia, than homicide perpetrators in general.

• He is often a loner, with few friends or social connections.

• He carefully plans his attacks, taking days to months to get ready.

• He is much more likely to be suicidal than a typical k**ler. "Because the mass murderer considers his life no longer worth living, he will either k**l himself or force the police to k**l him," Dr. Duwe said.

If you thought is there are drugs being given to people who visit psychologist or psychiatrist that produce mass murders, whereas they are given medications and counseling, I need to remind you that each day millions of people seek help for mental problems, and few become murders.

Yes, there has been a rash of mass murder over the past several years, but keep in mind that there was a disproportionate amount of suicides right after stock market crashes. Indeed, the number of murders increase during periods right before and at the beginning of wars and international conflict. I guess, the bottom line is the civil unrest within the US, the proposed action with Syria, the ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan, and Iran, jobless rates, stocks stagnation, among other factors are catalysts in pushing some unstable people over the edge.

Is that a large enough picture for you?
You are most welcome, we are glad you are here. N... (show quote)


Why ginnyt, you do know your stance. I tip my hat off to you (if I wore one)!

I know what you are talking about. I am not talking about the drugs that a psyc would give. I am talking about the other drugs like in my article "The Story of the Talking Turtle!"

There is a very good book you might consider reading. It is called Acid Dreams. It is about LSD and company. In it, it draws on what Uncle Sam was pulling. I was fortunate or unfortunate to run into this a long time ago. It was still in the "working the kinks out" period. I was not on their side.

It just become publicly known in the last couple of weeks what the DEA was pulling back in the '80's! I got wrapped in that. Not on their side either. I was blessed and made their Hit List, Black List, or wh**ever you want to call it. It happened, and I really hold no regrets on how it all went down. I did not like it, but that is part of the life one lives. It did have a downside.

I ran into some things and people that really might not ever come out. I know it won't from me. I may talk about some things, but that is far as I can go on it. I cannot divulge much, if you get my drift on this.

What people do not realize is that is who they look for. I also know that a lot of mass murderers are rather intelligent that turned sour. They like to help this along. It is dirty and rather ruthless. There is NO REGARDS TO ANYONE INVOLVED , NOR THE FAMILIES!

The Big Picture that I am talking about is not the picture you are talking about. The picture you are talking about is the one of the flock of sheep. I am talking about the ONE OVER THAT FLOCK!

Why I know as much as I do on this is because they were trying to steer me that way, and IT BLEW UP IN THEIR FACE, AGAIN! I think they were the ones that started hearing the voices instead! HA! HA! HA! I am serious here too!

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Sep 18, 2013 20:15:03   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
terrylm56 wrote:
Why ginnyt, you do know your stance. I tip my hat off to you (if I wore one)!

I know what you are talking about. I am not talking about the drugs that a psyc would give. I am talking about the other drugs like in my article "The Story of the Talking Turtle!"

There is a very good book you might consider reading. It is called Acid Dreams. It is about LSD and company. In it, it draws on what Uncle Sam was pulling. I was fortunate or unfortunate to run into this a long time ago. It was still in the "working the kinks out" period. I was not on their side.

It just become publicly known in the last couple of weeks what the DEA was pulling back in the '80's! I got wrapped in that. Not on their side either. I was blessed and made their Hit List, Black List, or wh**ever you want to call it. It happened, and I really hold no regrets on how it all went down. I did not like it, but that is part of the life one lives. It did have a downside.

I ran into some things and people that really might not ever come out. I know it won't from me. I may talk about some things, but that is far as I can go on it. I cannot divulge much, if you get my drift on this.

What people do not realize is that is who they look for. I also know that a lot of mass murderers are rather intelligent that turned sour. They like to help this along. It is dirty and rather ruthless. There is NO REGARDS TO ANYONE INVOLVED , NOR THE FAMILIES!

The Big Picture that I am talking about is not the picture you are talking about. The picture you are talking about is the one of the flock of sheep. I am talking about the ONE OVER THAT FLOCK!

Why I know as much as I do on this is because they were trying to steer me that way, and IT BLEW UP IN THEIR FACE, AGAIN! I think they were the ones that started hearing the voices instead! HA! HA! HA!
Why ginnyt, you do know your stance. I tip my hat... (show quote)


Thank you for the reading tip. I still read 6 or 7 books a week, down from the 20 or so when I was young.

I am sure that you do know things that many do not. I retired from the government, and there are many things I am not allowed to go into detail about. I was an interrupter while in service, Russian and after I left the service I worked for DOD in Information Security. So, yes there are things that are still kept quite.

I guess I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, because I still am not sure exactly what you are implying about the Navy yard shooting.

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Sep 18, 2013 20:38:02   #
terrylm56 Loc: SW Missouri
 
ginnyt wrote:
Thank you for the reading tip. I still read 6 or 7 books a week, down from the 20 or so when I was young.

I am sure that you do know things that many do not. I retired from the government, and there are many things I am not allowed to go into detail about. I was an interrupter while in service, Russian and after I left the service I worked for DOD in Information Security. So, yes there are things that are still kept quite.

I guess I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, because I still am not sure exactly what you are implying about the Navy yard shooting.
Thank you for the reading tip. I still read 6 or ... (show quote)


With those credentials we probably bumped heads! My, talk about a reader. I do enjoying reading certain books. I bet you wear glasses. I still do not, and no one can believe this as many case law, and other books I have read and also wrote.

Actually ginnyt what we are talking about is just starting to come out. The people that claim they do not care if they are being spied upon is really straight up fools, and I am serious. They have it down now to a T. Actually, this last bout with them (Uncle Sam) was even better than the last time they threw everything at me. Only this time, I did not go to prison. I wasn't doing anything. Of course, that does not matter. If I can watch a person for a week, and put them in jail, just think what they can do.

And yes it is very sad, but they prey real bad on the mentally challenged. That is what caused the blow up in the '80's. I helped a young man with an IQ of around 35 get out of prison for a murder he could not have committed. It had to fall on someone to replace him. Not for the murder, but the prison number.

NO! I just was wondering what people thought about this last one. I believe something is getting ready that is not going to be cool one bit.

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Sep 18, 2013 21:13:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
terrylm56 wrote:
With those credentials we probably bumped heads! My, talk about a reader. I do enjoying reading certain books. I bet you wear glasses. I still do not, and no one can believe this as many case law, and other books I have read and also wrote.

Actually ginnyt what we are talking about is just starting to come out. The people that claim they do not care if they are being spied upon is really straight up fools, and I am serious. They have it down now to a T. Actually, this last bout with them (Uncle Sam) was even better than the last time they threw everything at me. Only this time, I did not go to prison. I wasn't doing anything. Of course, that does not matter. If I can watch a person for a week, and put them in jail, just think what they can do.

And yes it is very sad, but they prey real bad on the mentally challenged. That is what caused the blow up in the '80's. I helped a young man with an IQ of around 35 get out of prison for a murder he could not have committed. It had to fall on someone to replace him. Not for the murder, but the prison number.

NO! I just was wondering what people thought about this last one. I believe something is getting ready that is not going to be cool one bit.
With those credentials we probably bumped heads! ... (show quote)


No, I do not wear glasses. 20-10 vision. Yes, 20-20 is considered good. But, I can see at 20 feet what others see at 10 feet away. Inherited good health and eyesight. No dentures in my family history either, average life span is 92 and the youngest died in wars.

All of us know that almost every move we make is being monitored, nothing new there. Our mail is being monitored (confessions of the Obama Administration), each time we stop at a stop light photos are being taken of our cars, we walk down major streets in the US, our photos are being taken. It is big brother and people of my generation saw it coming many years ago. So, most people are law abiding and go somewhat unnoticed.

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Sep 18, 2013 21:37:39   #
terrylm56 Loc: SW Missouri
 
ginnyt wrote:
In times past, I know that there was cloak and dagger used in eliminating or disrupting day to day activities. However, most techniques have been altered to fit the times. If Russia or even China wanted to damage the US, they would hit the information highway. They would disrupt banking, redirect or misdirect troop and ship movement, or any number of hands off disruption of electronic warfare.

Russia is interested in the US, but not in the ways of 20 years or more ago. They are more interested in rebuilding their public image, rebuilding their infrastructure, and their military. They are not now, but will be in the future, a threat. China has their own problems, and they are heavy into technology. On any given day, our Pentagon and military installations are hit with thousands of intrusions on their computers. They, as well as many of the informed Americans, are well aware that we can bring a nation to its knees with a take over of technology. Our military's biggest fears at this point is not the size of opponents army, but how bright are their hackers and can a EMP be delivered before we can bring it down.
In times past, I know that there was cloak and dag... (show quote)


I agree with what you are saying. I knew, but not like YOU KNOW. This is what puzzles me over Syria. Just like what happened at the Naval Shipyard. There was information there that someone wanted. Was it the guy in the trenchcoat? I can't answer that. I just get these certain feelings when something goes down. That is when I really start listening and reading. I know what I am looking for, or listening for. If one of them comes up, then I know I am on the right path.

Yes, TIMES HAVE CHANGED! But, what was pulled back then HAS ALSO EVOLVED! That was what impressed me this last full attack they pulled on me. I am glad we chatted. Hope you did not mind me picking your brain on this.

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Sep 18, 2013 21:42:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
terrylm56 wrote:
I agree with what you are saying. I knew, but not like YOU KNOW. This is what puzzles me over Syria. Just like what happened at the Naval Shipyard. There was information there that someone wanted. Was it the guy in the trenchcoat? I can't answer that. I just get these certain feelings when something goes down. That is when I really start listening and reading. I know what I am looking for, or listening for. If one of them comes up, then I know I am on the right path.

Yes, TIMES HAVE CHANGED! But, what was pulled back then HAS ALSO EVOLVED! That was what impressed me this last full attack they pulled on me. I am glad we chatted. Hope you did not mind me picking your brain on this.
I agree with what you are saying. I knew, but not... (show quote)


Happy hunting. Feel free to pick my meniscal brain at any time.

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Sep 18, 2013 21:50:44   #
terrylm56 Loc: SW Missouri
 
ginnyt wrote:
No, I do not wear glasses. 20-10 vision. Yes, 20-20 is considered good. But, I can see at 20 feet what others see at 10 feet away. Inherited good health and eyesight. No dentures in my family history either, average life span is 92 and the youngest died in wars.

All of us know that almost every move we make is being monitored, nothing new there. Our mail is being monitored (confessions of the Obama Administration), each time we stop at a stop light photos are being taken of our cars, we walk down major streets in the US, our photos are being taken. It is big brother and people of my generation saw it coming many years ago. So, most people are law abiding and go somewhat unnoticed.
No, I do not wear glasses. 20-10 vision. Yes, 20... (show quote)


I agree here with you. I knew back in the '80's something was wrong. There was no way they could know what they knew unless they were, as you put it, monitoring me. Yet, there was no authority from any court to justify this. Of course, it was not available either, BUT I KNEW!

What I am talking about is just not the watching at a stop sign, or things like that. With the technology that is clicking right now, they can piece a person's life together in no telling how many minutes probably once it is all fed into the software program.

With that kind of knowledge at one's hand, and that person is not a nice person, IT CAN GET REAL BAD! That is when ALL gets to hear and see it. Thank you for your help here!

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Sep 18, 2013 21:55:17   #
terrylm56 Loc: SW Missouri
 
ginnyt wrote:
Happy hunting. Feel free to pick my meniscal brain at any time.


NO! HA! HA! HA! I am not a h****r. I am usually the prey! I have a record, and WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS! I just try to help the ones getting out that has been locked up a long time, and have no clue what they are walking into. It is not the way it was when they went in. They are the EASY PREY that can be talked into things they have no clue what they are walking into.

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Sep 19, 2013 12:10:12   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
BoJester wrote:
'Towel heads'? a very civil and lucid post. You will fit right in with the other classy characters here


would you prefer sheet-head?

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Sep 19, 2013 12:12:48   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
terrylm56 wrote:
Thank you for welcoming me! I do not get that very often, unless someone is expecting something or wants something! I use the phrase Towel Heads for Al Qaeda. I do not call everyone over there that though. I just DO NOT BELIEVE in calling them what they want to be called.


welcome aboard, when you wish to answer someone use the quote reply button

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Sep 19, 2013 12:16:23   #
BoJester
 
Shee-ithead is a more appropriate term for the teabag party



alex wrote:
would you prefer sheet-head?

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Sep 19, 2013 12:33:54   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
BoJester wrote:
Shee-ithead is a more appropriate term for the teabag party


I'm not aware of any tea-bag party what is this some liberal thing?

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Sep 19, 2013 12:50:41   #
BoJester
 
Oh no, not liberal at all. Like fundementalist Islam, the teabag party is the fundementalist faction of the republicn party. Loud, obnoxious, religious mania, lack of foresight and common sense.



alex wrote:
I'm not aware of any tea-bag party what is this some liberal thing?

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