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Sep 12, 2013 12:07:30   #
Independently Disappointed
 
Our political system is broken in this country. And the same people who broke it are the only ones who can fix it.

If ALL American v**ers demanded three things, we could get back on the right track. Those three are:

1. Term Limits for all Congressional servants. I think 8 years is long enough to bilk the country out of enough money for their retirement. Congress SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER!

2. Campaign Finance Reform. Take the big money out of campainging, and suddenly you have a fair playing field without having to do favors for those who bought your way into office.

3. Abolish Lobbying. Remember when it was called BRIBERY? And it was punishable with prison time? We need to get the crooks out of office.

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Sep 12, 2013 12:45:13   #
bahmer
 
Independently Disappointed wrote:
Our political system is broken in this country. And the same people who broke it are the only ones who can fix it.

If ALL American v**ers demanded three things, we could get back on the right track. Those three are:

1. Term Limits for all Congressional servants. I think 8 years is long enough to bilk the country out of enough money for their retirement. Congress SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER!

2. Campaign Finance Reform. Take the big money out of campainging, and suddenly you have a fair playing field without having to do favors for those who bought your way into office.

3. Abolish Lobbying. Remember when it was called BRIBERY? And it was punishable with prison time? We need to get the crooks out of office.
Our political system is broken in this country. A... (show quote)


I think that eight years is to long of time to allow them to be in congress as there is to great of chance for them to form a good old boys club.

I think maybe four years may be closer to the max that they could be trusted.

Also they must be subject to all laws and bills that they pass and they cannot exempt themselves from them.

They will also not be able to give themselves raises as all raises will have t o be approved by the people. All perks will be canceled. If you want to serve the people then serve, this is not a get rich quick program.

You will be subject to the same insurance as the general populace and you will not have special insurance.

After they leave office they loose the secret service and begin life as a citizen not as an executive.

All salaries cease after they leave office and that includes the president.

I also believe that the SCOTUS should be limited to term limits so that the damage inflicted on the American people cannot continue for to long a period of time. There should be mandatory restrictions on the Supreme Court and the should make their decision based on the constitution and not on how they feel.

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Sep 12, 2013 12:48:58   #
Independently Disappointed
 
It's sad that .07% of Americans are millionaires, but 50% of our members of Congress are millionaires. Hmmm, wonder how THAT happened?

It's sickening the way our political system has been perverted into what it is now. So corrupt, and making v**ers feel powerless. It has to stop soon.

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Sep 12, 2013 12:58:36   #
bahmer
 
Independently Disappointed wrote:
It's sad that .07% of Americans are millionaires, but 50% of our members of Congress are millionaires. Hmmm, wonder how THAT happened?

It's sickening the way our political system has been perverted into what it is now. So corrupt, and making v**ers feel powerless. It has to stop soon.


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Sep 12, 2013 13:02:02   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Independently Disappointed wrote:
Our political system is broken in this country. And the same people who broke it are the only ones who can fix it.

If ALL American v**ers demanded three things, we could get back on the right track. Those three are:

1. Term Limits for all Congressional servants. I think 8 years is long enough to bilk the country out of enough money for their retirement. Congress SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER!

2. Campaign Finance Reform. Take the big money out of campainging, and suddenly you have a fair playing field without having to do favors for those who bought your way into office.

3. Abolish Lobbying. Remember when it was called BRIBERY? And it was punishable with prison time? We need to get the crooks out of office.
Our political system is broken in this country. A... (show quote)


So remove all the power from the people, by disallowing them to lobby their representatives, fund their candidates campaigns, and keep their representatives as long as they like.

Got it.

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Sep 13, 2013 08:09:44   #
John Deere
 
Independently Disappointed wrote:
Our political system is broken in this country. And the same people who broke it are the only ones who can fix it.

If ALL American v**ers demanded three things, we could get back on the right track. Those three are:

1. Term Limits for all Congressional servants. I think 8 years is long enough to bilk the country out of enough money for their retirement. Congress SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER!

2. Campaign Finance Reform. Take the big money out of campainging, and suddenly you have a fair playing field without having to do favors for those who bought your way into office.

3. Abolish Lobbying. Remember when it was called BRIBERY? And it was punishable with prison time? We need to get the crooks out of office.
Our political system is broken in this country. A... (show quote)


Good points. Campaign finance reform won't work unless the loop holes to get around the law are closed. McCain-Feingold law failed to do this and things actually got worse.
Also there's a fourth thing that needs to be done.
KEEP THE MEDIA OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN! The incumbent always gets free air time thanks to CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, and even FOX.

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Sep 13, 2013 09:17:45   #
bahmer
 
John Deere wrote:
Good points. Campaign finance reform won't work unless the loop holes to get around the law are closed. McCain-Feingold law failed to do this and things actually got worse.
Also there's a fourth thing that needs to be done.
KEEP THE MEDIA OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN! The incumbent always gets free air time thanks to CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, and even FOX.


Either equal free air time for both candidates or none to both. Keep the contributions to a modest level and put some kind of watch dog in place to keep big corporations from buying a candidate and that would also limit special interest groups that have large quantities of cash. Let the money come from the regular people and let the politician listen to his/her constituents or get v**ed out. Most people feel that there representatives don't even listen to them. More town hall meetings with real debate. Any new bill should be brought up and after it is written let the representatives read it and bring it back to their constituents in town hall meetings and then go back to Washington and v**e based on their constituents feed back.

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Sep 13, 2013 10:25:58   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
John Deere wrote:
Good points. Campaign finance reform won't work unless the loop holes to get around the law are closed. McCain-Feingold law failed to do this and things actually got worse.
Also there's a fourth thing that needs to be done.
KEEP THE MEDIA OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN! The incumbent always gets free air time thanks to CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, and even FOX.


Now, you are against freedom of the press. Where will it all end? Totalitarian dictatorship?

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Sep 13, 2013 11:29:06   #
rcksha
 
bahmer wrote:
I think that eight years is to long of time to allow them to be in congress as there is to great of chance for them to form a good old boys club.

I think maybe four years may be closer to the max that they could be trusted.

Also they must be subject to all laws and bills that they pass and they cannot exempt themselves from them.

They will also not be able to give themselves raises as all raises will have t o be approved by the people. All perks will be canceled. If you want to serve the people then serve, this is not a get rich quick program.

You will be subject to the same insurance as the general populace and you will not have special insurance.

After they leave office they loose the secret service and begin life as a citizen not as an executive.

All salaries cease after they leave office and that includes the president.

I also believe that the SCOTUS should be limited to term limits so that the damage inflicted on the American people cannot continue for to long a period of time. There should be mandatory restrictions on the Supreme Court and the should make their decision based on the constitution and not on how they feel.
I think that eight years is to long of time to all... (show quote)


Good post. Earmarks for individual congressmen should be outlawed, Supreme court recalls should be exercised and absolute congressional vetting for all appointed positions eliminating cronyism like we're seeing now.

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Sep 13, 2013 20:30:42   #
John Deere
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Now, you are against freedom of the press. Where will it all end? Totalitarian dictatorship?


Yes, I am against a press that give free air time to the incumbent while the challenger has to pay for his air time. All the incumbent does is go on the Sunday morning shows pretending it's a news conference while it's really a political rally. If you call favoring one candidate and screwing the other candidate, that's the press I'm against. The un-American press is more like TASS. That's got to stop.

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Sep 13, 2013 21:33:45   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
John Deere wrote:
Yes, I am against a press that give free air time to the incumbent while the challenger has to pay for his air time. All the incumbent does is go on the Sunday morning shows pretending it's a news conference while it's really a political rally. If you call favoring one candidate and screwing the other candidate, that's the press I'm against. The un-American press is more like TASS. That's got to stop.


Start your own media outlet and plug your candidates, only. Don't remove our rights in the name of correcting our ills.

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Sep 13, 2013 22:03:24   #
John Deere
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Start your own media outlet and plug your candidates, only. Don't remove our rights in the name of correcting our ills.


Sa I remember, when FOX tried to give equal time you libs said that FOX wasn't fair and they were biased. Everyone knows how CBS, ABC, NBC, and CNN are. FOX has since moved into the same direction as the rest, but not so extreme. You libs get mad because Rush and other talk show host are biased. At least they admit it and their philosophy is that if you don't like it, don't listen. MSNBC is extremely lib biased, which is fine for them, but they won't admit it. Either give equal free time to both candidates or give no free time. This whole discussion is about fixing our screwed up e******n system and trying to save our rights before we lose them entirely.

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Sep 13, 2013 22:25:32   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
John Deere wrote:
Sa I remember, when FOX tried to give equal time you libs said that FOX wasn't fair and they were biased. Everyone knows how CBS, ABC, NBC, and CNN are. FOX has since moved into the same direction as the rest, but not so extreme. You libs get mad because Rush and other talk show host are biased. At least they admit it and their philosophy is that if you don't like it, don't listen. MSNBC is extremely lib biased, which is fine for them, but they won't admit it. Either give equal free time to both candidates or give no free time. This whole discussion is about fixing our screwed up e******n system and trying to save our rights before we lose them entirely.
Sa I remember, when FOX tried to give equal time y... (show quote)


You are damn straight right, I am mad at you. You think that by giving up our freedoms, you will correct the problems of our country. You think allowing the government to dictate how people can communicate ideas is the way to guarantee our freedom.

"If we give up our power, our rights, that will fix our country." Is what you are telling me. It will make our country a socialist empire. Is that what you want? Come on now, is it?

You progressive wannabes make me sick. And I am the great evil liberal...

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Sep 13, 2013 23:05:17   #
John Deere
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
You are damn straight right, I am mad at you. You think that by giving up our freedoms, you will correct the problems of our country. You think allowing the government to dictate how people can communicate ideas is the way to guarantee our freedom.

"If we give up our power, our rights, that will fix our country." Is what you are telling me. It will make our country a socialist empire. Is that what you want? Come on now, is it?

You progressive wannabes make me sick. And I am the great evil liberal...
You are damn straight right, I am mad at you. You ... (show quote)


Boy have you got me wrong! But before I go any farther I'd like to know if you work for the media, print or broadcast. And I've never been a progressive, which is just another word for c*******t.

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Sep 13, 2013 23:36:35   #
bahmer
 
John Deere wrote:
Boy have you got me wrong! But before I go any farther I'd like to know if you work for the media, print or broadcast. And I've never been a progressive, which is just another word for c*******t.


Watch out, the first sign of a liberal. progressive, Marxist, c*******t is that they attack the messenger and not the message. We want the media to be free and equal, and if not tell us so. Like this is CNN your totally left wing off the wall wacko station and we are endorsing the furthest left candidate that we can find, and his name is Barack H. Obama. If we go any further left than that we will be shaking our left hand with our other left hand.

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