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Sep 11, 2013 08:38:43   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
AnnMarie wrote:
I actually worked overseas and watched Al Jazeera often, along with the BBC. Sadly, I have to say that the journalist quality on BOTH AJ and BBC reminded me of what US journalism used to be-thoughful, precise, telling both sides of the story, not the jingoistic, slanted, and superficial "do you wear boxers or briefs?" sorry state of what is called news reporting in the US. Try it, you will be pleasantly surprised and it will get you thinking, no matter what your position is. Remember when the news had NO political opinion? We were in Egypt a year or so ago, and AJ was one of few stations in English. We watched a documentary on the US for profit prison system that was very informative, well done, well thought out, that made me homesick for what our news used to be.
I actually worked overseas and watched Al Jazeera ... (show quote)

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Sep 11, 2013 08:46:55   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Well this goes against Obama's restore the middle class. He has three years left to completely destroy the middle class with a few more taxes, ObamaCare will help finish that job. Just wait until Ben Bernanke steps down.



MPLSMAN wrote:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/10/221124533/study-says-americas-income-gap-widest-since-great-depression

'Nuff said.

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Sep 11, 2013 08:55:24   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
BoJester wrote:
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expense of the working class, yet the low intellect fat limburg worshippers want to blame to less fortunate who are on SS medicare, medicaid, disability, SNAP and other social programs for their own ineptitude and problems. The real problem is the fat cat capitalists who suck billions of dollars out of the economy and don't pay enough in taxes to offset their greed. All of the conservatard war hawks should want to see the tax rates return to the WWII level. Would certainly slow the rate of theft of the fat cats.
Too bad the conservatard i***ts are so h**e filled, they can't see how they are being screwed, and the really funny thing is that none of conservatard posters will ever be wealthy enough to pay the top tax rate. I***ts




http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/10/top-1-percent-takehomerecordshareof2012usincome.html
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expe... (show quote)


And, whose pockets are lined by the rich? What party affiliation has the most rich people? Which party in Congress has the most rich reps and senators? Of the top 10, or 20, richest people in America, how many of them are in the Democrat Party? Who is propping up the Stock market (making all these fat Democrats rich) by printing $85B a month of new money, and putting the country farther in debt?

Why it would be your Party, the Democrats, Obama, and Obama in cahoots with the Fed.

I thought that inept and incompetent president, you low information v**ers elected, was going to take all that money from the rich and distribute to you lower class lazy assholes. At least that is what he said, and you i***ts believed everything he said. Right? Instead, you jerks just made the richer more rich, and the poor more poor. Not to mention destroying the middle class. So, you low information v**ers, keep v****g for your socialist Democrats, and when your paycheck and bank account becomes smaller, don't come whining to us.

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Sep 11, 2013 09:13:30   #
MPLSMAN Loc: Bloomington, MN
 
OldSchool wrote:
And, whose pockets are lined by the rich? What party affiliation has the most rich people? Which party in Congress has the most rich reps and senators? Of the top 10, or 20, richest people in America, how many of them are in the Democrat Party? Who is propping up the Stock market (making all these fat Democrats rich) by printing $85B a month of new money, and putting the country farther in debt?

Why it would be your Party, the Democrats, Obama, and Obama in cahoots with the Fed.

I thought that inept and incompetent president, you low information v**ers elected, was going to take all that money from the rich and distribute to you lower class lazy assholes. At least that is what he said, and you i***ts believed everything he said. Right? Instead, you jerks just made the richer more rich, and the poor more poor. Not to mention destroying the middle class. So, you low information v**ers, keep v****g for your socialist Democrats, and when your paycheck and bank account becomes smaller, don't come whining to us.
And, whose pockets are lined by the rich? What pa... (show quote)


Listen to and read the news from all sources. Through their hatred of everything and anything Obama, the Republicans have blocked every- and any-thing proposed, even things they once advocated themselves.
They have said themselves, that their goal is to flush the country down the toilet and blame Obama. They made that clear the day he was first inaugurated.
Look at their last p**********l candidate. Romney openly proposed a plutocracy.

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Sep 11, 2013 09:32:27   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
And what did Daily Kos, Huff Post and other post when Bush was in office?
Tit for TAT, learn to read between the lines and check other sites for the same imfo.



MPLSMAN wrote:
Listen to and read the news from all sources. Through their hatred of everything and anything Obama, the Republicans have blocked every- and any-thing proposed, even things they once advocated themselves.
They have said themselves, that their goal is to flush the country down the toilet and blame Obama. They made that clear the day he was first inaugurated.
Look at their last p**********l candidate. Romney openly proposed a plutocracy.

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Sep 11, 2013 09:48:09   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
BoJester wrote:
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expense of the working class, yet the low intellect fat limburg worshippers want to blame to less fortunate who are on SS medicare, medicaid, disability, SNAP and other social programs for their own ineptitude and problems. The real problem is the fat cat capitalists who suck billions of dollars out of the economy and don't pay enough in taxes to offset their greed. All of the conservatard war hawks should want to see the tax rates return to the WWII level. Would certainly slow the rate of theft of the fat cats.
Too bad the conservatard i***ts are so h**e filled, they can't see how they are being screwed, and the really funny thing is that none of conservatard posters will ever be wealthy enough to pay the top tax rate. I***ts




http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/10/top-1-percent-takehomerecordshareof2012usincome.html
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expe... (show quote)


Assuming all the wealth is held by conservatives while calling them i***ts is an interesting irony that I'm sure in your ranting never crossed your mind

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Sep 11, 2013 10:10:00   #
MPLSMAN Loc: Bloomington, MN
 
bmac32 wrote:
And what did Daily Kos, Huff Post and other post when Bush was in office?
Tit for TAT, learn to read between the lines and check other sites for the same imfo.


I wasn't talking about media. I was talking about Republicans, mainly in the House, but also McConnell who said his number one priority was assuring Obama did not get re-elected. he didn't say anything about solving problems for the country. His number one priority, he said, was politics.

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Sep 11, 2013 10:12:30   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
BoJester wrote:
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expense of the working class, yet the low intellect fat limburg worshippers want to blame to less fortunate who are on SS medicare, medicaid, disability, SNAP and other social programs for their own ineptitude and problems. The real problem is the fat cat capitalists who suck billions of dollars out of the economy and don't pay enough in taxes to offset their greed. All of the conservatard war hawks should want to see the tax rates return to the WWII level. Would certainly slow the rate of theft of the fat cats.
Too bad the conservatard i***ts are so h**e filled, they can't see how they are being screwed, and the really funny thing is that none of conservatard posters will ever be wealthy enough to pay the top tax rate. I***ts




http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/10/top-1-percent-takehomerecordshareof2012usincome.html
Seems that the rich are getting richer at the expe... (show quote)


Hay MoJseter, tell me how one makes money with out using capitalism. Also tell us of one country that is doing it.. No pissing and moaning, just facts..

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Sep 11, 2013 10:16:13   #
teaman
 
Mr. Bojester, this is a start in the right direction....which of course you will ignore!

Many people think that the rich are able to weasel their way out of taxes, but they actually pay an overwhelming majority of the taxes in the United States.
What's more, their share of the tax burden is increasing.

The top 10 percent of taxpayers paid over 70% of the total amount collected in federal income taxes in 2010, the latest year figures are available, according to the Tax Foundation, a think tank that advocates for lower taxes. That's up from 55% in 1986.

The remaining 90% bore just under 30% of the tax burden. And 47% of all Americans pay hardly anything at all -- a fact that got Republican p**********l candidate Mitt Romney into political hot water last year.

"There's been a huge myth created that the rich aren't paying anything," said William McBride, the Tax Foundation's chief economist. "The rich pay a much higher rate than the poor."

These numbers may not tell the whole story though.

Related: Why America's middle class is losing ground

The tax code is getting more progressive, said Roberton Williams, a senior economist at the centrist Tax Policy Center. In 1986 there were just two tax rates -- 15% and 28%. Now there are seven income tax brackets, going from a low of 10% to a high of nearly 40%.

While taxes on investment income have declined a bit since 1986, incentives like child care and income tax credits for the poor have been greatly expanded.

But the rich are able to take advantage of tax breaks too. That's why Williams said there's a popular notion that the wealthy are somehow c***ting the tax man. In fact, the Tax Policy Center found last year that there were about 4,000 households with incomes over $1 million that were not paying anything at all.

Obama's 2nd term: What to expect on taxes
Bob McIntyre, director of Citizens for Tax Justice, a liberal group, added that looking at just federal income taxes doesn't give the whole picture.

When factoring in state and local taxes, the top 10% pay just under half the tab. And when calculating tax burden as a percent of income, the tax code is even less progressive. The top 10% paid an average of 30% of their income in local, state, and federal taxes in 2011, said McIntyre. That's not much different than the 25% percent paid by the middle class.

"The system is a little progressive, but not much," McIntyre said.

Still, the wealthy are paying more taxes on a federal level simply because they are making so much more money. The top 10% of taxpayers take home 45% of the nation's income, according to Citizens for Tax Justice. Moreover, they seem to be getting richer all the time. Of course, something needs to be stated here loud and clear.....THEY EARNED IT!!

"The vast majority of income gains have gone to the people at the top," he said.

And it's this growing issue of income ine******y that seems to anger people the most. Overall salaries and wages haven't even kept pace with inflation over the past few years.

NEXT:

WHO INHERITED WHAT?

The Washington Post babbled again today about Obama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush. Amazingly enough,...... A lot of people swallow this nonsense. So once more, a short civics lesson.



Budgets do not come from the White House . They come from Congress, and the party that has controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party . They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush , which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending . After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who v**ed for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I v**ed for and then I v**ed to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, Unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference...........

A LITTLE MORE:

Some bad news for the vehement anti-war set: they've lost the spending argument. A new chart reveals that in the last decade, spending on national security, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined paled in comparison to entitlement spending -- 19% to 65%, respectively.

"About 65 percent of federal expenditures over the last ten years have gone towards entitlements,"Paul Miller writes. "By comparison, about 15 percent has gone towards national defense, excluding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq has cost three percent, and only about one percent has gone towards the war in Afghanistan (including the cost of ongoing military operations and all reconstruction and stabilization assistance combined), according to my analysis of figures from OMB."
In other words, Miller says, "Afghanistan is the second-cheapest major war in U.S. history as a percentage of GDP, according to the Congressional Research Service."
And of course, it's worth noting that war spending is about to decline, as our efforts abroad wind down, but entitlement spending will only grow as more people retire. For all President Obama's talk of a cheaper, "leaner" military, that's clearly not the area in need of a trimming.

In closing, here is a thought for you;

I just read an article about the difference between "misinformation" and "disinformation" and it was eye-opening to say the least. What the government puts out is "misinformation" (people really don't believe it and take it with a grain of salt) and what the media puts out is "disinformation" in that their news is like "laundered money"...the stories come from the government which are usually falsehoods(dirty money), are then processed through the news agencies (laundering) and come out as t***h (laundered)...and finally those "laundered" stories are a notch above "misinformation" which allows the general population to believe it as t***h. Our media is taking their cues from the old Russian playbook...this is what they did in the Vietnam war and it was successful.

I would recommend you give up your walking dead zombie dummycratic attitude and become an independent seeking out the t***h. But of course, you can't do that if you are dependent on the Obambulating Manure Spreader's gravy train!



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Sep 11, 2013 10:16:53   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
MPLSMAN wrote:
I wasn't talking about media. I was talking about Republicans, mainly in the House, but also McConnell who said his number one priority was assuring Obama did not get re-elected. he didn't say anything about solving problems for the country. His number one priority, he said, was politics.


Please share with us examples where people in Congress belonging to the opposition party of a first term sitting president did something other than trying to make him a one termer.

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Sep 11, 2013 10:18:53   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
MPLSMAN wrote:
Listen to and read the news from all sources. Through their hatred of everything and anything Obama, the Republicans have blocked every- and any-thing proposed, even things they once advocated themselves.
They have said themselves, that their goal is to flush the country down the toilet and blame Obama. They made that clear the day he was first inaugurated.
Look at their last p**********l candidate. Romney openly proposed a plutocracy.


Just when I thought you couldn't get more stupid, then you surprise me. Please name the bill(s) that the republicans blocked. They only have power in the house, and many of the RINOs in the House don't side with the majority. They have NO power to pass anything, or to block very little. Personally, I hope we have grid lock until 2016! If there is gridlock, the Dimowits can't jam anymore destructive policies down our throats.

We said "we hope he fails" when he was put into office. By that, we meant his policies, because his policies will destroy this country as we know it. And, so far he is proving us right - he is destroying this country. Wake up!

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Sep 11, 2013 10:23:51   #
bluejacket
 
AuntiE wrote:
I may well misspell this; however, for written Der Siegel, can be very informative.


it is der Spiegel and it means --the mirror and yes it gives a different perspective

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Sep 11, 2013 10:24:08   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Obama IS the problem!

MPLSMAN wrote:
I wasn't talking about media. I was talking about Republicans, mainly in the House, but also McConnell who said his number one priority was assuring Obama did not get re-elected. he didn't say anything about solving problems for the country. His number one priority, he said, was politics.

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Sep 11, 2013 10:32:10   #
bluejacket
 
teaman wrote:
Mr. Bojester, this is a start in the right direction....which of course you will ignore!

Many people think that the rich are able to weasel their way out of taxes, but they actually pay an overwhelming majority of the taxes in the United States.
What's more, their share of the tax burden is increasing.

The top 10 percent of taxpayers paid over 70% of the total amount collected in federal income taxes in 2010, the latest year figures are available, according to the Tax Foundation, a think tank that advocates for lower taxes. That's up from 55% in 1986.

The remaining 90% bore just under 30% of the tax burden. And 47% of all Americans pay hardly anything at all -- a fact that got Republican p**********l candidate Mitt Romney into political hot water last year.

"There's been a huge myth created that the rich aren't paying anything," said William McBride, the Tax Foundation's chief economist. "The rich pay a much higher rate than the poor."

These numbers may not tell the whole story though.

Related: Why America's middle class is losing ground

The tax code is getting more progressive, said Roberton Williams, a senior economist at the centrist Tax Policy Center. In 1986 there were just two tax rates -- 15% and 28%. Now there are seven income tax brackets, going from a low of 10% to a high of nearly 40%.

While taxes on investment income have declined a bit since 1986, incentives like child care and income tax credits for the poor have been greatly expanded.

But the rich are able to take advantage of tax breaks too. That's why Williams said there's a popular notion that the wealthy are somehow c***ting the tax man. In fact, the Tax Policy Center found last year that there were about 4,000 households with incomes over $1 million that were not paying anything at all.

Obama's 2nd term: What to expect on taxes
Bob McIntyre, director of Citizens for Tax Justice, a liberal group, added that looking at just federal income taxes doesn't give the whole picture.

When factoring in state and local taxes, the top 10% pay just under half the tab. And when calculating tax burden as a percent of income, the tax code is even less progressive. The top 10% paid an average of 30% of their income in local, state, and federal taxes in 2011, said McIntyre. That's not much different than the 25% percent paid by the middle class.

"The system is a little progressive, but not much," McIntyre said.

Still, the wealthy are paying more taxes on a federal level simply because they are making so much more money. The top 10% of taxpayers take home 45% of the nation's income, according to Citizens for Tax Justice. Moreover, they seem to be getting richer all the time. Of course, something needs to be stated here loud and clear.....THEY EARNED IT!!

"The vast majority of income gains have gone to the people at the top," he said.

And it's this growing issue of income ine******y that seems to anger people the most. Overall salaries and wages haven't even kept pace with inflation over the past few years.

NEXT:

WHO INHERITED WHAT?

The Washington Post babbled again today about Obama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush. Amazingly enough,...... A lot of people swallow this nonsense. So once more, a short civics lesson.



Budgets do not come from the White House . They come from Congress, and the party that has controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party . They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush , which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending . After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who v**ed for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I v**ed for and then I v**ed to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, Unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference...........

A LITTLE MORE:

Some bad news for the vehement anti-war set: they've lost the spending argument. A new chart reveals that in the last decade, spending on national security, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined paled in comparison to entitlement spending -- 19% to 65%, respectively.

"About 65 percent of federal expenditures over the last ten years have gone towards entitlements,"Paul Miller writes. "By comparison, about 15 percent has gone towards national defense, excluding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq has cost three percent, and only about one percent has gone towards the war in Afghanistan (including the cost of ongoing military operations and all reconstruction and stabilization assistance combined), according to my analysis of figures from OMB."
In other words, Miller says, "Afghanistan is the second-cheapest major war in U.S. history as a percentage of GDP, according to the Congressional Research Service."
And of course, it's worth noting that war spending is about to decline, as our efforts abroad wind down, but entitlement spending will only grow as more people retire. For all President Obama's talk of a cheaper, "leaner" military, that's clearly not the area in need of a trimming.

In closing, here is a thought for you;

I just read an article about the difference between "misinformation" and "disinformation" and it was eye-opening to say the least. What the government puts out is "misinformation" (people really don't believe it and take it with a grain of salt) and what the media puts out is "disinformation" in that their news is like "laundered money"...the stories come from the government which are usually falsehoods(dirty money), are then processed through the news agencies (laundering) and come out as t***h (laundered)...and finally those "laundered" stories are a notch above "misinformation" which allows the general population to believe it as t***h. Our media is taking their cues from the old Russian playbook...this is what they did in the Vietnam war and it was successful.

I would recommend you give up your walking dead zombie dummycratic attitude and become an independent seeking out the t***h. But of course, you can't do that if you are dependent on the Obambulating Manure Spreader's gravy train!
Mr. Bojester, this is a start in the right directi... (show quote)



your post had some good points , but what do you believe we as a country need to do to change the increasing wealth gap we are experiencing in this country

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Sep 11, 2013 10:34:16   #
MPLSMAN Loc: Bloomington, MN
 
Dave wrote:
Please share with us examples where people in Congress belonging to the opposition party of a first term sitting president did something other than trying to make him a one termer.


Shouldn't their NUMBER ONE PRIORITY be doing their job?
Their job is not to figure the best way to get re-elected.

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