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Sep 5, 2013 15:07:49   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
emarine wrote:
The tea party was the brainchild of one of Charles Kochs think tanks back as far as 2002, He already has most of Congress and the Supreme Court on his payroll, now he is after the Republican party or what's left of it, there are 1000s of paid community organizers spreading the h**e also, However most who post here work for free.


It is really sad to see folks like you that have been so taken in by l*****t propaganda.

Are you completely unaware of billionaires like Soros, Lewis, Pritzker who contribute to Democrats?

Who are these organizer spewing h**e - 1,000's of them - how many have you personnaly seen?

While accusing others of spewing h**e, don't you recognize the h**e in your own message?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:08:11   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Lou wrote:
You teabags haven't proved that one either . You remain scared and outraged over your ignorance ....go crawl under your bed and hide .


Wh**ever crimes leading to impeachment have to proceed through the DOJ. Do you honestly believe Holder would proceed? He is in contempt of Congress but the DOJ has yet to file on him.

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Sep 5, 2013 15:09:28   #
VladimirPee
 
Dayton has only been in office a short time . The Minny unemployment rate was well below national average under GOP Gov Pawlenty as well.

MPLSMAN wrote:
Interesting.
Minnesota (neighboring state)
5.2%
Hmm? Wonder what the difference is?
Oh yeah, We have a Democratic, Senate, Governor, House. Could that be the difference?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:13:04   #
VladimirPee
 
IRS apologizes for targeting tea party groups


Associated Press
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups


IRS admits targeting conservatives for tax scrutiny in 2012 e******n Washington Post
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-10/politics/39158606_1_irs-official-tax-exempt-status-tax-exempt-groups


You are a LOW INFORMATION V**ER WAKE UP

MPLSMAN wrote:
See, I knew you would ignore the facts. I am a true American, that's why I'm anti-Tea Party. I believe in facts, that's why I'm anti-Tea Party.

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Sep 5, 2013 15:13:52   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
emarine wrote:
Just learn how to follow the money... whether its red or blue.. look at both sides... keep digging and you may shock yourself.... Google Capital F*****m the destruction of America's middle class... its a long video on youtube, then start to fact check everything that shocks you... then post back your thoughts


Do you realize that facism, in wh**ever form you might like, depends on totalitarian government? Do you realize the common thread of most organizations that associate themselves with the Tea Party stand for smaller government? Do you not therefore realize the disconnect from your posts?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:15:01   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Wh**ever crimes leading to impeachment have to proceed through the DOJ. Do you honestly believe Holder would proceed? He is in contempt of Congress but the DOJ has yet to file on him.


not so old gringo , impeachment proceedings originate right from Congress . Did you forget Nixon and his AJ John Mitchell ? Or Clinton and Louie Frees ?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:16:49   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Dave wrote:
Do you realize that facism, in wh**ever form you might like, depends on totalitarian government? Do you realize the common thread of most organizations that associate themselves with the Tea Party stand for smaller government? Do you not therefore realize the disconnect from your posts?


Oh cut the CRAP Dave , "smaller government " simply means whose ox gets gored . Who ya kidding friend ?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:17:04   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
emarine wrote:
It seems we have had major problems for more than 75 years... But there has been a form of balance over time to keep things moving along, After 911 that balance was lost... I think we are in for a very rough ride. The current administration has nothing to do with it. Follow the money.


Major problems for 75 year? In other words, you think that America of 75 years ago was better than the America today?

You think the current administration, in power for 5.5 years now, has nothing to do with conditions today? What money do you want to follow - the George Soros money, the Penny Pritzker money, the Lewis money - or just the Koch money?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:17:56   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Lou wrote:
Oh cut the CRAP Dave , "smaller government " simply means whose ox gets gored . Who ya kidding friend ?


Do you seriously think smaller government and facism are not discordent concepts?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:18:57   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
IRS apologizes for targeting tea party groups


Associated Press
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups


IRS admits targeting conservatives for tax scrutiny in 2012 e******n Washington Post
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-10/politics/39158606_1_irs-official-tax-exempt-status-tax-exempt-groups


You are a LOW INFORMATION V**ER WAKE UP


And Dennis DEE still ignores the facts . I'll ignore the niceties and just call you STUPID V**ER .

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Sep 5, 2013 15:20:40   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Dave wrote:
Do you seriously think smaller government and facism are not discordent concepts?


NON-SEQUITUR Dave , facism can be big or small government , it all depends on WHO is holding absolute power .

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Sep 5, 2013 15:20:46   #
VladimirPee
 
DennisDee provides Sources and backup for his information.

But Lou I must admit. You calling someone a parrot in the same sentence you used the term Tea Bagger is the winning dumb post of the week. Congrats

Lou wrote:
And Dennis DEE still ignores the facts . I'll ignore the niceties and just call you STUPID V**ER .

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Sep 5, 2013 15:21:31   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
MPLSMAN wrote:
Jane Mayer, of The New Yorker, in her 10,000 word piece last August, peeled the cover off the onion of the Koch brothers' empire. And she focused not only on their personal wealth and family, but on their political empire building.

It was not, and is not, easy to get the details on the extent of their tentacles. They funnel money through 501c3 tax-exempt foundations, and they give money to other foundations, lobbying organizations, and right wing think tanks. They have PACs; they support candidates. Only a small portion of what they control do they divulge.

But it has now come out how involved they have been in funding Tea Party groups, Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and Citizens for a Sound Economy ($12 million).

We do know, from Mayer’s reporting, that the Koch brothers have personally given over $2 million to candidates over the last 12 years, their PAC has contributed $8 million to candidates, and they have spent $50 million on lobbying. The Charles Koch Foundation has given $48 million, and another foundation they control gave $28 million. David Koch’s foundation gave more than $120 million. According to Mayer, $196 million dollars in total was distributed in the last 10 years to conservative causes and institutions.

That all, as they say, is not chicken feed, and it begs the question: How in the heck did they stay under the radar for as long as they did?

Part of the reason is that much of what they did was not reportable but, more important, until recently they were not pouring the millions into campaigns through advertising and expenditures allowed due to the Citizens United Supreme Court case. [Read the U.S. News debate: Is the Citizens United decision hurting democracy?]

Now, to the paranoia. These folks would make Richard Nixon’s enemies list look tame. This could be a movie akin to George Clooney’s Michael Clayton.

This past weekend the Koch brothers hosted a conference in Palm Springs that resembled an armed camp. Private Koch security was everywhere—manning every doorway and stairway within range of the conference. Reporters were confronted by private security guards and told to leave or they would be arrested. A Politico reporter describes being thrown out and threatened with “a night in the Riverside County jail.”
A new academic study confirms that front groups with longstanding ties to the tobacco industry and the billionaire Koch brothers planned the formation of the Tea Party movement more than a decade before it exploded onto the U.S. political scene. The study, funded by the National Cancer Institute of the National Institute of Health, traces the roots of the Tea Party's anti-tax movement back to the early 1980s when tobacco companies began to invest in third party groups to fight excise taxes on cigarettes. Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity were once a single organization called Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE). CSE was founded in 1984 by the infamous Koch Brothers, David and Charles Koch, and received over $5.3 million from tobacco companies, mainly Philip Morris, between 1991 and 2004.
Any more questions?
Jane Mayer, of The New Yorker, in her 10,000 word ... (show quote)


Have you done any research on the wealth and contributions of Soros or Lewis or any of the billionaires who support l*****t causes? If not, why not?

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Sep 5, 2013 15:23:48   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Lou wrote:
not so old gringo , impeachment proceedings originate right from Congress . Did you forget Nixon and his AJ John Mitchell ? Or Clinton and Louie Frees ?


I am aware where they originate. I said they have to proceed through the DOJ.

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Sep 5, 2013 15:25:08   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Dave wrote:
It is really sad to see folks like you that have been so taken in by l*****t propaganda.

Are you completely unaware of billionaires like Soros, Lewis, Pritzker who contribute to Democrats?

Who are these organizer spewing h**e - 1,000's of them - how many have you personnaly seen?

While accusing others of spewing h**e, don't you recognize the h**e in your own message?


That is your skewed narrative Dave , community organizers have been around a long time taking up the cause of workers ,and the downtrodden in society . And don't try and tell me that has not occurred in this society , maybe you forgot Matewan and the Pinkertons , or Ford Frick gunning down strikers , or Henry Ford's Goon Squads . Better go and study American History , you've got a rather large knowledge gap .

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