TEA PARTY (Page 39): So you still think a sales tax on the consumer is fair?

larry

DennisDee wrote:

Yes. One establishment I owned was a Manhattan restaurant. 100% of every sale was taxable. I had to pay every cent of tax I collected. I did deduct costs against income but they were minimal. In fact I lost money on swipe fee's. If the bill was $100 plus tax or $108 and the customer gave a charge card I paid the 2% or so swipe fee on the entire amount. It was possible to deduct the swipe fee from tax due but it was very difficult and required more documentation and research than it was worth

So you still think a sales tax on the consumer is fair?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

alex wrote:

the point is when you pay the tax to the retailer he doesn't get to keep it he is in effect acting as the IRS agent of the state he collects the tax to forward to the state any profit he makes he still has to pay income tax on

True except for one point. He will not pay income tax on his profit. His taxes will come out ot the goods and services he purchases just like everyone else. There will be no income tax.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

larry wrote:

Mike, you seem to have some attachment to the mone... (show quote)

Sorry Larry. "One cannot add to a cup that is already full". You can settle for the overly complicated and unfair system we have now if you like, but I'll do all I can to encourage change.

larry

BigMike wrote:

Sorry Larry. "One cannot add to a cup that is already full". You can settle for the overly complicated and unfair system we have now if you like, but I'll do all I can to encourage change.

BigMike, I think you and I both cannot change the system. We are whistling in the dark. Once something is fixed like it is, it is cast in the concrete heads that are satisfied with it.
A national Sales tax, instead of a national consumer tax that we have would be fine with me, but the retailer would still be the guy that works for nothing. He will still have to collect and tabulate the tax, and get nothing for it. But if he were to pay the tax on gross sales, he would be relieved of all that crap, and could take it off his income tax as an expense. He would be winning A national SELLERS tax instead of a national CONSUMERS tax. The way it is now, only the crooks win. Just as an aside, Who controls the income from the Sales tax?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

larry wrote:

BigMike, I think you and I both cannot change the ... (show quote)

The Treasury Department.

Loki Loc: Georgia

larry wrote:

What does that mean, they probably all do, because it is a profitable way to rob people of their hard earned money. Just for living their life, and buying things they need to survive. How in the heck can that be fair. the next thing will be an air tax, because they are beating the drum for pollution. You will have to pay a tax on every breath you take just to live.

Tell me, how is your life improved by a sales tax?

You are the one who claimed that people are moving to states that have no sales tax. I was replying to your statement with an inquiry as to which states had no sales tax. I may move there myself.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

banjojack wrote:

You are the one who claimed that people are moving to states that have no sales tax. I was replying to your statement with an inquiry as to which states had no sales tax. I may move there myself.

the only state that i'm aware of that doesn't have a sales tax is Nevada, many states have no income tax some have both

larry

banjojack wrote:

You are the one who claimed that people are moving to states that have no sales tax. I was replying to your statement with an inquiry as to which states had no sales tax. I may move there myself.

Try New Hampshire.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Let's just get it out of the way, folks: The five (5) states with no state sales tax are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. They each allow local sales taxes to be imposed, with various restrictions.

Alex, I didn't find Nevada on the list. You may correct me if you find evidence. I didn't, but wasn't that curious.

Loki Loc: Georgia

slatten49 wrote:

Let's just get it out of the way, folks: The five (5) states with no state sales tax are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. They each allow local sales taxes to be imposed, with various restrictions.

Alex, I didn't find Nevada on the list. You may correct me if you find evidence. I didn't, but wasn't that curious.

You are correct, slatten49. Also, Delaware has a Corporate Tax, since so many corporations are headquartered there. Oregon has a very high income tax, and New Hampshire has outrageous property taxes. They get their pound of flesh, one way or another.

larry

MPLSMAN wrote:

Well, that leaves Ted Cruz out of the picture doesn't it. His mother was a U.S. citizen, his father was a Cuban citizen, and he was born in a foreign country. (Yes, Canada is a foreign country.) Whereas Obama was born in the United States. (Yes, Hawaii is in the United States.)

Ted Cruz isn't the President

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

slatten49 wrote:

Let's just get it out of the way, folks: The five (5) states with no state sales tax are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. They each allow local sales taxes to be imposed, with various restrictions.

Alex, I didn't find Nevada on the list. You may correct me if you find evidence. I didn't, but wasn't that curious.

I have no argument I just thought I remembered hearing that they didn't have either sales or income tax there

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

slatten49 wrote:

Let's just get it out of the way, folks: The five (5) states with no state sales tax are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. They each allow local sales taxes to be imposed, with various restrictions.

Alex, I didn't find Nevada on the list. You may correct me if you find evidence. I didn't, but wasn't that curious.

by the way ,yesterday I was reading some of our early exchanges, we didn't get along very well to start with did we?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

alex wrote:

by the way ,yesterday I was reading some of our early exchanges, we didn't get along very well to start with did we?

Without going back and reading them, as I remember it, no, we didn't. They were spirited, shall I say...if I remember correctly. :roll: :oops: Our exchanges were the first I had on OPP, if I remember, again, correctly.

It was a dispute we were having about FOX News. You are a fan, I am not. I do like Chris Wallace, and think he is the best news anchor on cable news, if not all-around! I don't care for any cable news channel, and would be hard pressed to name one anchor on mainstream media nightly news I cared for, much.

Of course, Chris is the son of Mike Wallace, whom I could take or leave.

I have to admit, despite our early encounter, I have grown to like & respect you. And, you are Navy, after all! :lol:

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

alex wrote:

I have no argument I just thought I remembered hearing that they didn't have either sales or income tax there

I used to work at a hardware store in a small Nevada town. The sales tax was 6.7 percent in 2006