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Dispelling the myth of a ‘Christian nation’
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Sep 10, 2013 17:36:39   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Billhuggins wrote:
More cars on the road of tyranny. The tyrannical gov has made us healthy people buy health insurance when we don't want it. What's next? Are they going to tell us that we have buy a house and pay more that it is worth so that the gov can use the surplus to subsidize housing bought by the poor. Is there no limit to what this gov will do? C*******t intent to make a government that has only one class of citizens. Cross into the country and become a citizen and never work another day in a life. Just be nine months pregnant and your anchor baby entitles you to welfare and about $5,000 to cover the costs of delivery.
More cars on the road of tyranny. The tyrannical g... (show quote)


What does that have to do with what curmudgeon and I were just discussing ?

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Sep 10, 2013 17:38:56   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
Bill these liberals love their ideology and party more than their country.


I told you your MBA was phony dennis , you can't read a sentence and comprehend what iw being said .How does anyone with you learning disability get an MBA .

That MBA must mean " Me Big Assahola " no ?

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Sep 10, 2013 18:08:17   #
VladimirPee
 
This from a guy who climbed telephone polls for a living. Any chimp can climb a poll.


Lou wrote:
I told you your MBA was phony dennis , you can't read a sentence and comprehend what iw being said .How does anyone with you learning disability get an MBA .

That MBA must mean " Me Big Assahola " no ?

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Sep 10, 2013 18:19:44   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
This from a guy who climbed telephone polls for a living. Any chimp can climb a poll.


Well if it were you we were talking about , I would tend to agree , you would climb the pole and start screeching for a banana , I climb the pole and put your dsl or landline back in service .
But seeing you on a pole would be just as funny as seeing you holding a piece of paper with MBA on it .

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Sep 10, 2013 18:31:13   #
VladimirPee
 
You should audition for Geico Commercials. Even a caveman can do it


Lou wrote:
Well if it were you we were talking about , I would tend to agree , you would climb the pole and start screeching for a banana , I climb the pole and put your dsl or landline back in service .
But seeing you on a pole would be just as funny as seeing you holding a piece of paper with MBA on it .

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Sep 10, 2013 18:33:38   #
mtman2
 
If you don't feel like indepth research, keep quoting your mentors narrative. But that would take thousands of hours. Much to hard for a predetermined take on the tens of thousand of pages of writings U'd have to study to actually know who said what, why + when. Many of us HAVE done this and -johnny come lately- 'wanna be' history buffs don't even rock the boat.
Now the Founders; THEY made waves that took the world by storm.

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Sep 10, 2013 18:34:51   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
You should audition for Geico Commercials. Even a caveman can do it


But you couldn't . BTW did you tell your father-in-law how you felt about his life's work ?

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Sep 10, 2013 18:39:55   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
mtman2 wrote:
If you don't feel like indepth research, keep quoting your mentors narrative. But that would take thousands of hours. Much to hard for a predetermined take on the tens of thousand of pages of writings U'd have to study to actually know who said what, why + when. Many of us HAVE done this and -johnny come lately- 'wanna be' history buffs don't even rock the boat.
Now the Founders; THEY made waves that took the world by storm.


That is a brilliant concept . For those who claim to defend the Constitution, it is always a good idea to READ IT.

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Sep 10, 2013 18:39:56   #
VladimirPee
 
In fact my nickname for him was Archie Bunker

Lou wrote:
But you couldn't . BTW did you tell your father-in-law how you felt about his life's work ?

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Sep 10, 2013 18:40:45   #
mtman2
 
Your childish attempt to throw a tantrum precludes your ability to learn, share in posted direct quotes of actual knowledge. Out of UR league to attempt a marathon if U can't do the 100yd dash.

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Sep 10, 2013 18:45:32   #
Homestead
 
Lovable Curmudgeon wrote:
"At the time of the adoption of the Constitution, and of the Amendment to it now under consideration, the general, if not the universal, sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the State so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience and the freedom of religious worship.

An attempt to level all religions, and to make it a matter of state policy to hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation, if not universal indignation. But the duty of supporting religion, and especially the Christian religion, is very different from the right to force the consciences of other men or to punish them for worshipping God in the manner which they believe their accountability to Him requires...

The rights of conscience are...beyond the just reach of any human power. They are given by God, and cannot be encroached upon by human authority...

The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity,
but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national government."

--Justice Joseph Story--
Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, 1840
*Historical note: Justice story served for 34 years on the US Supreme Court and is the founder of Harvard Law School.
"At the time of the adoption of the Constitut... (show quote)


Amen!

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Sep 10, 2013 21:53:04   #
mtman2
 
Which is exactly the point to not repeat the Catholic debacle for hundreds of years in Europe. Until the Reformation which put the mind of western man on the course of spiritual, personal and political freedom; ie Founders =America w/freedom to worship and a given, the main choices where Protestant Denominations. Even Lincoln was scared of the Catholic control systems.
By the way -Stories take on the 2nd-Amendment- IS one of the most powerful in history.

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Sep 10, 2013 22:09:03   #
Lovable Curmudgeon
 
Lou wrote:
What do you care of what others are doing ? Who died and left you judge ? Who are you to condemn someone else as a sinner when you are one yourself .
Thank you for displaying EXACTLY what I was talking about .


Now you have lost it, Lou. Just where do you think I did that? Arguing with you really is like dueling with an unarmed man, you are hopelessly lost for someone who considers himself a Christian! I should have given up on you 12 messages ago! No one is so blind as he who refuses to see! You just flat refuse to the T***H! You make things up that people have never said, you avoid direct questions....

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Sep 10, 2013 22:41:48   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Lovable Curmudgeon wrote:
Now you have lost it, Lou. Just where do you think I did that? Arguing with you really is like dueling with an unarmed man, you are hopelessly lost for someone who considers himself a Christian! I should have given up on you 12 messages ago! No one is so blind as he who refuses to see! You just flat refuse to the T***H! You make things up that people have never said, you avoid direct questions....


Obviously curmudgeon , you do not remember your own words . Or choose not to . There's most likely a psychological reason for that , but hey I 'm not your therapist . My answer to you couldn't have been more direct and concise , you my friend are suffering delusion . Good Luck with that .
I thought oldroy was the only one playing stupid , apparently there are two of you playing that game . My advice to you ? Get a new pair of glasses , take some reading comprehension courses , or go seek professional counseling .

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