Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Again, you are wrong. Soros is an active supporter of the Open Society Foundations who are media based. They say they "work to protect freedom of the press, expand public access to information, and promote high-quality, independent journalism." Fox news is now owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns more than 7 percent of Rupert Murdoch's News group. The sale happened earlier this year, shortly after Alwaleed bin Tala met with them and proposed a buy out plan. The tie to Soros is with Open Society Foundation who has shares in the Murdoch's Group and also does work for the prince. Now, go do some homework for yourself, do the research and look carefully at funding and not just with ownership.

astrolite

A hacker friend of mine told me that both Politifact and Factcheck come from Servers at the Klinton Library. From there I'm sure that they are conservative???

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Your hacker friend has made a mistake. Looking at their information turned up the following information:

Domain Name: FACTCHECK.ORG
Created On: 29-Sep-2003 18: 02: 43 UTC
Registrant Name: Brooks Jackson
Registrant Organization: Annenberg Public Policy Center UPenn
Registrant Street1: 320 National Press Building
Registrant City: Washington
Registrant State/Province: DC
Registrant Postal Code: 20045
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: 1.2028796708
Registrant Email: bjackson@appcpenn.org

This is not the Clinton Library which is in Little Rock, Ak. The servers are located in PA (on campus) and they have a backup site in NV. There is no routing to other countries such as China. Although they were hacked by the Chinese when the Pentagon was hacked in 2009. If you need, I can provide you with their IP address.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Why don't you check out the Open Societies Foundations. See who and what they support. This is just one of Soros' Foundations. It should be an eyeopener for all you L*****t Progs. It will list many of his 'philanthropies' you Progs discount and disbelieve. He has other foundations which promote and foster only Left Wing causes. He is the behind the scenes bank roller of entities such as Media Matters and other Left Wing media outlets. You can look them up yourself or continue to deny them. He has given in excess of $400 million dollars to left wing universities whereas Koch Bros. have given $70 million to Conservative causes. Bard College in New York is funded 100% by Soros. The listings for him are too numerous to enumerate here. One will have to research them for themselves, although I seriously doubt they will. They do not want to be exposed to the t***h they so vociferously deny.

rumitoid

ginnyt, GE is the biggest sponsor of MSNBC, who have run stories that do not put this corporation in the best of light. When I was a kid and going into my thirties, the NYPost was pretty much considered pinko at best, along with the defunct Journal American. (I am a Bronxite.) Now it is hardline Right, under Murdock. Follow the editorial policies of every media outlet he purchased: right, right, far far right. His thumb is in every pie. The Wall Street Journal had been one of those media outlets that were considered and shown to be assiduously objective and needed to be that way. Look at it now.

Murdock is part of "the media." A big part. When those on the right say "media" it is like spitting or. to some, vomitting: it is believed to be all left wing manipulated or controlled. Silly. Not only that, analysis has shown that the media in the 60s was pathetically left wing biased. The result, which took a few years, was a movement by the major networks to improve their image as true "news sources" and yield more to the Right. Nearly impossible to convince a conservative this is the actual case.

Ideofactoids trump actual facts on this site with fair consistency. When something is repeated a few thousand times, always with what seems like convincing details from good friends and trusted sources, it becomes real and solid and immutable. "Everybody knows" this is the t***h. Why challenge something that "everybody knows" is true? Why look for ourselves? A lot would be called into question about our loyalties even to ask for a little more info.

For me, I trust the passion of many on the Right here: they want with all their hearts what is best for America. I would have to say that the many insults I get (and I do not consider myself a "prog," a "democrap," or a "libertard" or a Leftie at all) give me some hope for change; we need such all out caring for our democracy. But then the adament d******eness negates that.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Rumi you have finally gone off the deep end. I see no redemption for you at this point. Too bad, because I thought you held promise at one time. Alas, I have just about given up on you at this juncture. Is there still hope, I honestly don't know.

73STNGLKABEE

OG, I studied all weekend on Soros, He's a criminal progressive asshole, research was easy, its all right there.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

I know, but the Progs either don't want to know or are too deeply involved in the Prog BS to care.

Vic Freits

You've said it Señor Gringo! I understand you said:"reversed Socialism? How right you are. Ultra conservatism equals to N**ism= the same as reversed socialism, I got it Señor Gringo!

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Hahahahaha. I see you also have your head up your anal orifice. That appears to be a common affliction affecting you Progs.

rumitoid

Hmmmm.... Really? Why? What exactly has put me beyond hope? I re-read my piece. Is it my trust in the passion of the Right for what is best for America? Is it my belief that the Right gives me some hope for change?

Old Gringo I have come to like you. I honestly respect your opinion and I feel you are a decent man, so don't pull any punches: what made you lose hope in me over what I just wrote?

73STNGLKABEE

ya know

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

And I think you are a decent person, just disorientated. You last comment, in it's entirety is false thinking.

73STNGLKABEE

rumitoid, that's what I like about you, we can debate, sometimes nastily, but you have the humility to hear people out and state you rebuttle. I respect that a lot.

andrew998 Loc: NYC

I h**ed GW when he was elected and I turned out to be right. All he did was turn the reins over to Cheney and then went to sleep for about 7 years. That does not mean I would disrespect him in any way by making jokes by spelling his name wrong or with Mad magazine type cartoons. I would never even think about it although I might criticize his policies. That, at least is intellect.