Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Is Jesus The "True God" of scripture?"

[b]Gentiles became Christians to serve the "True God" - "For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how [U]ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come."[I Thes 1:9-10] [/b]

So "True God" had a son, for whom The Human race waited!

And

"Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his [xarakteer] person..."[Heb.. 1:3]

Jesus was the image of God[Heb.. 1:3]

The Logos was God[John.. 1:1c]

One was God, the other was an image of God.

They did not have the same relationship to the Father who is true God. So, the logos was true God, but Jesus was an image and son of the true God.

"These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." [John. 17:1-3]

The question was "Is Jesus the "True God?" As we can see, "True God had a son named Jesus. The answer to the question therefore is, Jesus was the son of "True God."

susanblange Loc: USA

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord". The one true God is the living God whose plan has always been to live on earth amongst his creation. This God will come in the form of a human and will be executed. Then he will be resurrected on the mount of Olives. The righteous meek will come with him. After that, there will be everlasting peace.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Nope! God walked within the camp of Israel, but now sends His son to mediate betwixt God and Men; Because being flesh, His son knows by experience and can qualify to mediate.

God has never experienced "Being in flesh" as a Human, therefore follows the mediation of the Son in all things pertaining to Humanity.



God cannot die, no matter the form. And He cannot become His own creation.



God resurrects; He is not resurrected.



Right! That follows the resurrection and judgment; after which Satan will be cast down and death will be destroyed. Judgment will be over, what is left to mess with eternal Peace?

susanblange Loc: USA

We were created in the image of God and God has taken on human flesh. The soul (body) is mortal and God will return in Spirit form to earth and will reign on earth forever.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

God cannot become His own creation. The flesh is mortal, not the soul. The soul is the flesh with the breath of life within.

Why would God reign on earth if Earth is going to be consumed with a fervent heat?


2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Unless you are speaking of the "New Heavens and New Earth." But that is for another time.

susanblange Loc: USA

The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh and it means "life". The blood is the life of the flesh. Spirit, or ruach, is breath inside of the body, and wind on the outside. The earth will be purged by fire but it is not hell on earth as you believe. 97% of people on earth will spontaneously combust. I call this Judgment Day and it will be comparable to the flood of Noah. Isaiah 24:6 "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore are the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". All of my doctrine comes from the OT which is also complete. Prophecy ends with Zechariah 14.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

"God breathed into Adam the breath of life and Adam became a living soul."



I have no idea where you get that from my post. I believe no such thing.



And I have no idea where you got THAT from either. It sure isn't scripture.



Show me the reference for your "97%" -



MALACHI QUOTED IN NEW TESTAMENT

Malachi 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Malachi 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Matthew 11:7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? 8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. 9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Mark 1:2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Luke 7:27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.


Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

JESUS QUOTES MALACHI
Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

Matthew 17:10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.


Mark 9:11 And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?


Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The Angel of the Lord quoted Malachi to Zacharias
Luke 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

smurphy Loc: Co

[quote=Theo]Is Jesus The "True God" of scripture?"

[b]Gentiles became Christians to serve the "True God" - "For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how [U]ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come."[I Thes 1:9-10] [/b]

So "True God" had a son, for whom The Human race waited!

And

"Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his [xarakteer] person..."[Heb.. 1:3]

Jesus was the image of God[Heb.. 1:3]

The Logos was God[John.. 1:1c]

One was God, the other was an image of God.

They did not have the same relationship to the Father who is true God. So, the logos was true God, but Jesus was an image and son of the true God.

"These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." [John. 17:1-3]

The question was "Is Jesus the "True God?" As we can see, "True God had a son named Jesus. The answer to the question therefore is, Jesus was the son of "True God."[/quote]

We are all looking, in our own way, for "the God above God."

Estimates of Christian sects range from 23k to over 100k. It is estimated there are five new ones every week. Then we have the four major denominations and their splinters. All proclaiming they have "the one, true faith," all reading the same supposedly inerrant Bible giving rise to tens of thousands different interpretations, and all dependent on A Holy Spirit that seems to be playing "telephone" with the truth. True God? That is not the question or anything we should be seeking and beliefs are the enemy amongst us all.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

That is your opinion. Here is God's opinion.

Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

1 John 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

Which opinion do you think I will pursue?

susanblange Loc: USA

@ Theo: Isaiah 24:6 "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate, therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". A few is 3, but I think it means 3%. The righteous are a minority and at the time of the resurrection and third judgment, only thousands will be left alive.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

1 Peter 3:20 ".... few, that is, eight souls...."

"Few" is not a number, it is a range of values.

susanblange Loc: USA

We each have our own opinion and interpret the bible differently. I only read the KJV.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

May I respectfully disagree, without giving offense. Your earlier remarks are not coming from the King James Bible.

So it is obvious to me, you are reading something more than the KJV Bible for your understanding.

I do not think you are making it up as you go along, but it sounds too much like commentary material to me to consider it as scripture, because it is not in the Hebrew or the Greek; so that leaves commentaries.

I am not trying to pick a fight, I am trying to understand where you are coming from. Your claim so far, has been "I only read the scriptures" and regarding the scriptures, "I only read the King James."

So, level with me and let's have a friendly conversation. I really, really, don't like being considered the bad guy, but I am certainly beginning to sound like one.

susanblange Loc: USA

I have seen many scriptures in the bible literally fulfilled. The OT is remarkably accurate, but I do not believe it is perfect. The bible is mainly about God and the Messiah, who is God in the flesh. Psalm 139:16 "...and in thy book all my members were written..." Psalm 40:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me".

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