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Jun 28, 2015 09:57:05   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
At no time have I ever said that I think you should not have a gun.

Bottom line if you feel safer at home I am all for you having a gun.

I agree that I could be in danger a some time. I take that risk because it is foremost in my mind that I trust the other person to be good.

This has served me well for 78 years & I am not too likely to change.

There are things about our government & the way thinks take place in the world. The problems can be corrected with out the use of guns.

What I feel is the problem is that if you wish to live by the gun & keep you guns just keep your mouth shut about it.

When people say what they will do with their guns it only in flames others to think the same way & leads to the mess of shooting that are going on.

I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot.

If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me.

In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it.

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Jun 28, 2015 10:29:55   #
Oldsalt
 
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Floyd Brown wrote:
At no time have I ever said that I think you should not have a gun.

Bottom line if you feel safer at home I am all for you having a gun.

I agree that I could be in danger a some time. I take that risk because it is foremost in my mind that I trust the other person to be good.

This has served me well for 78 years & I am not too likely to change.

There are things about our government & the way thinks take place in the world. The problems can be corrected with out the use of guns.

What I feel is the problem is that if you wish to live by the gun & keep you guns just keep your mouth shut about it.

When people say what they will do with their guns it only in flames others to think the same way & leads to the mess of shooting that are going on.

I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot.

If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me.

In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it.
At no time have I ever said that I think you shoul... (show quote)

Floyd apparently you have not heard of "Polar Bear Hunting". Not being a threat is not a reason to be safe. If you are a white male and old you are a walking victim.

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Jun 28, 2015 10:37:44   #
CowboyMilt
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
At no time have I ever said that I think you should not have a gun.

Bottom line if you feel safer at home I am all for you having a gun.

I agree that I could be in danger a some time. I take that risk because it is foremost in my mind that I trust the other person to be good.

This has served me well for 78 years & I am not too likely to change.

There are things about our government & the way thinks take place in the world. The problems can be corrected with out the use of guns.

What I feel is the problem is that if you wish to live by the gun & keep you guns just keep your mouth shut about it.

When people say what they will do with their guns it only in flames others to think the same way & leads to the mess of shooting that are going on.

I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot.

If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me.

In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it.
At no time have I ever said that I think you shoul... (show quote)


I think I agree with some of what your "point" is but I have a hard time understanding it. In 78 years I would think you would have learned a bit of grammar & spelling or at least proof read what you said to see if you think anyone else can understand it. I don't mean to be harsh but it's just common sense to me. (I'm 77) 1) "I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot"...what do you mean by that? 2) "In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it." what do you mean by that? You also say 3)"If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me." what do you really mean? I won't tear you apart any further but I get the gist of what you say is that you don't believe in guns for your self, but others may have that option. And you also indicate to me that you believe in "turning your cheek" which may be commendable...but in the real world today...don't trust that some maniac won't just go ahead & shoot you before you get a chance to either "turn your cheek" or try to "reason" with him or her...just saying & hope we are still friends..."THINGS THEY ARE A CHANGIN'"

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Jun 28, 2015 10:42:07   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
The nature of my business sometimes takes me into high crime areas. As an older person, it would seem silly to me not to have a gun. I truly wish I could feel the same as you about my fellow man. I believe a good offense is still the best defense.

When I consider the total lack of morality in this country, I feel safer with the gun. I am glad you have not been a victim of a violent crime, unfortunately most of us can not say the same. I have never had to use a gun against another human being and I pray I never do. However, I would to protect myself and my family.

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Jun 28, 2015 10:43:39   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Oldsalt wrote:
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Floyd apparently you have not heard of "Polar Bear Hunting". Not being a threat is not a reason to be safe. If you are a white male and old you are a walking victim.


I have a choice in how I choose to live with or with out having a gun.

I am aware of what can happen.

My only wish from any individual such as your self "How am I being a threat to you or any one by my not carrying a gun".

I don't see my self as being a threat to you or others & don't feel that there is much of a threat to my personal well being by you or most people to the point of having to carry a gun.

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Jun 28, 2015 10:52:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I admire your stance. Just remember it didn't work out that well for Ghandi.
Floyd Brown wrote:
At no time have I ever said that I think you should not have a gun.

Bottom line if you feel safer at home I am all for you having a gun.

I agree that I could be in danger a some time. I take that risk because it is foremost in my mind that I trust the other person to be good.

This has served me well for 78 years & I am not too likely to change.

There are things about our government & the way thinks take place in the world. The problems can be corrected with out the use of guns.

What I feel is the problem is that if you wish to live by the gun & keep you guns just keep your mouth shut about it.

When people say what they will do with their guns it only in flames others to think the same way & leads to the mess of shooting that are going on.

I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot.

If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me.

In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it.
At no time have I ever said that I think you shoul... (show quote)

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Jun 28, 2015 11:06:48   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I think I agree with some of what your "point" is but I have a hard time understanding it. In 78 years I would think you would have learned a bit of grammar & spelling or at least proof read what you said to see if you think anyone else can understand it. I don't mean to be harsh but it's just common sense to me. (I'm 77) 1) "I trust my fellow man to the point of allowing him to have the only shot"...what do you mean by that? 2) "In a world of h**e only trust in others will save it." what do you mean by that? You also say 3)"If it comes to all hell breaking out I will ask if given the chance why a person would want to take my life in the face of no direct threat from me." what do you really mean? I won't tear you apart any further but I get the gist of what you say is that you don't believe in guns for your self, but others may have that option. And you also indicate to me that you believe in "turning your cheek" which may be commendable...but in the real world today...don't trust that some maniac won't just go ahead & shoot you before you get a chance to either "turn your cheek" or try to "reason" with him or her...just saying & hope we are still friends..."THINGS THEY ARE A CHANGIN'"
I think I agree with some of what your "poin... (show quote)


This is not the world we grew up in, or anywhere close. I am afraid for folks like Floyd. He is a victim waiting for a crime. I pray that I am wrong, but everything I read and see tells me otherwise. Good Luck to Floyd, guns for self protection may not be his preference, but they are a much better choice than entrusting it to the other guy..

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Jun 28, 2015 11:29:43   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
I admire your stance. Just remember it didn't work out that well for Ghandi.


Did Ghandi get his message across. I think he did but there were those did not trust in the words Ghandi spoke.

I we never find the level of trust in each other that is needed for this to work it will mean that we wish to live in a world where mistrust is the rule.

All that is really need is to bring out the goodness that each of has with in our self.

I am not asking for your trust I am giving you my trust in you.

My trust in you is the only thing of real value that I can give you.

Your trust in me is the only thing of real value you can give me.

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Jun 28, 2015 11:33:22   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Did Ghandi get his message across. I think he did but there were those did not trust in the words Ghandi spoke.

I we never find the level of trust in each other that is needed for this to work it will mean that we wish to live in a world where mistrust is the rule.

All that is really need is to bring out the goodness that each of has with in our self.

I am not asking for your trust I am giving you my trust in you.

My trust in you is the only thing of real value that I can give you.

Your trust in me is the only thing of real value you can give me.
Did Ghandi get his message across. I think he did ... (show quote)


You maybe right, time will tell. Just be very careful of in whom you place your trust. I hope you find the peace you seek to share.

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Jun 28, 2015 11:33:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You trust in your fellow man. I will trust in God. Hopefully we can meet someday.
Floyd Brown wrote:
Did Ghandi get his message across. I think he did but there were those did not trust in the words Ghandi spoke.

I we never find the level of trust in each other that is needed for this to work it will mean that we wish to live in a world where mistrust is the rule.

All that is really need is to bring out the goodness that each of has with in our self.

I am not asking for your trust I am giving you my trust in you.

My trust in you is the only thing of real value that I can give you.

Your trust in me is the only thing of real value you can give me.
Did Ghandi get his message across. I think he did ... (show quote)

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Jun 28, 2015 11:37:31   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Unclet wrote:
This is not the world we grew up in, or anywhere close. I am afraid for folks like Floyd. He is a victim waiting for a crime. I pray that I am wrong, but everything I read and see tells me otherwise. Good Luck to Floyd, guns for self protection may not be his preference, but they are a much better choice than entrusting it to the other guy..


I am putting my trust in you.

The only one that I can not trust is the one that can not or will not trust me.

The only real way for this to work is for me to stand in front of a person with a gun pointed at me with out me having a gun & say you can have the first & only shot.

For what is the gain for this person to just shoot me.

How can that not be the greatest trust that you can place in another person.

I do not have a death wish. I wish to be around long enough ot see how well this trust in others work.

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Jun 28, 2015 11:56:23   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
You trust in your fellow man. I will trust in God. Hopefully we can meet someday.


It is good that you trust in God & I do too. But it is only in the trust we have in each other that truly counts.

I put my faith in you that you would not seek personal harm to me.

For what am I giving up. Nothing because I truly believe in your heart you wish no harm would come to me by your hands.

I pledge to you that I seek only Peace & Good Will for you.

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Jun 28, 2015 12:01:43   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Oldsalt wrote:
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Floyd apparently you have not heard of "Polar Bear Hunting". Not being a threat is not a reason to be safe. If you are a white male and old you are a walking victim.


I don't know just what it means when you say "Polar Bear Hunting"

It would be so kind if you explained what it is you mean.

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Jun 28, 2015 12:27:36   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I am putting my trust in you.

The only one that I can not trust is the one that can not or will not trust me.

The only real way for this to work is for me to stand in front of a person with a gun pointed at me with out me having a gun & say you can have the first & only shot.

For what is the gain for this person to just shoot me.

How can that not be the greatest trust that you can place in another person.

I do not have a death wish. I wish to be around long enough ot see how well this trust in others work.
I am putting my trust in you. br br The only one ... (show quote)


You are fortunate in that you do not reside in Minneapolis, Detroit, Chicago, L.A., D.C., N.Y., St. Louis, Atlanta or Baltimore. If you did perhaps you might feel somewhat different or else you would not venture outside your home. I am not denigrating you for your viewpoint, only pointing out that, in my estimation, it is rather foolish.

Gehen Sie mit Gott.
Shalom

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Jun 28, 2015 13:20:45   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
You are fortunate in that you do not reside in Minneapolis, Detroit, Chicago, L.A., D.C., N.Y., St. Louis, Atlanta or Baltimore. If you did perhaps you might feel somewhat different or else you would not venture outside your home. I am not denigrating you for your viewpoint, only pointing out that, in my estimation, it is rather foolish.

Gehen Sie mit Gott.
Shalom


I will not let my faith in others die.

For we all need to trust in others or our faith in others will die.

That is the worst out come we can have. For with out others we are less that we could be.

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