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Jun 26, 2015 11:17:26   #
bahmer
 
Rufus wrote:
You are right NPP. This also reminds me that the prince of the air rules this world.


The world is preparing for battle and the left and progressives are destroying the one vestige of hope that this world has ever seen. They are succeeding in their effort to destroy America but they will never destroy our God and our Savior. They will return and pronounce judgement not only on America and the liberals but also the whole world as it fights against God. What a difference as compared to when I was growing up and the majority in America were Christians or professed in a belief in Christ. It will only get worse.

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Jun 26, 2015 11:18:14   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Workinman wrote:
Right there with ya Mom.


We are right with you. Shousen wrote about this goal in THE NAKED COMMUNIST here are the goals


45 Communist Goals by Dr. Cleon Skousen (1958)
08 Jan

The following is a list of Current Communist Goals as revealed by Dr. Cleon Skousen in The Naked Communist, written in 1958 and read into the Congressional Record in 1963. Of the 45, I can provide specific examples to at least 40 of them. While they may be masqueraded under the guise of something other than communism, the final result is the same – the dissolution of the Constitutional Republic that is the foundation of the United States of America. It’s interesting that the Representative was a member of the Democratic Party, the very party that has been largely enveloped by those with Communist and Socialist beliefs. Let’s see where we are in 2013. As you read, keep in mind that this list was written in 1958.

Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR., (D) OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. (CHECK. Presidents (both parties) have routinely supported U.N. measures that subject our sovereign power to the U.N.)

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. (CHECK. #44 has made a systematic effort to decrease the U.S. number of nuclear warheads while our enemies continue to grow theirs.)

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. (CHECK. #44 not only apologizes for our strengths, but works to undermine them in the name of moral strength.)

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. (CHECK.)

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. (CHECK. Let’s understand this does not refer to satellites in the sky, but to governments supportive of Communist Russia’s agenda. Currently, these would be the governments who embrace totalitarian regimes.)

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. (CHECK. Currently this refers not only to Communist domination, but also to Radical Islamic domination, i.e. Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, etc.)

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. (CHECK. 1971)

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. (CHECK. 1961 – remember, this list was written in 1958.)

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. (CHECK. Even in 2013 the conference is still going on.)

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. (CHECK, what are now Belarus and Ukraine were Soviet satellites until gaining their independence in 1991.)

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) (CHECK. Agenda 21.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. (CHECK – is it illegal? Nope, these days we are surrounded by mindless twits who think “Socialism is Cool”.)

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. (CHECK. Note the continued degradation of The Pledge of Allegiance and the systematic removal from schools and community government events.)

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. (CHECK. Not only does Russia have access, the entire world has access via the USPTO website.)

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (CHECK. The Democratic Party ideals are largely communistic in nature. Whether or not they want to recognize or admit it.)

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. Too many examples to list.)

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks. (CHECK, and none are so insidious as the NEA.)

18. Gain control of all student newspapers. (CHECK. Control the schools, control their media.)

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. Too many to list, but the December 30, 2012 Op-Ed favoring dumping The Constitution is a good example.)

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.)

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.” (CHECK. Look around. How many sculptures do you look at and ask, what the heck is that supposed to be?)

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.” (CHECK. Jesus on the Cross in urine, Mary surrounded by multiple buttocks with elephant dung, etc. all praised as “art”. I won’t give the artists the dignity of mentioning their names.)

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. (CHECK. Many of us remember George Carlin’s Seven Forbidden Words. While all of them can now be heard on cable channels, most of them can be heard on even network television.)

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. (CHECK. In 1953, the word “pregnant” could not be said on the I Love Lucy Show. We can all name shows where married couples had twin beds. Now, anything goes and what is on even network television used to be referred to as pornography.)

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.” (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. The point here? Undermine the family unit and weaken the community by creating single parent homes and non-reproductive couples. However, as many same-sex couples do have the desire to have children, this aspect of the mission has failed to a degree. The irony is that most “isms” consider homosexuality as offensive, however, as with anything else, it provides a means to their ends and the homosexual population are too eager to join the cause without knowing the history behind the “acceptance”. )

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.” (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.)

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.” (CHECK. The ACLU and atheist groups have made this their primary mission. And the ignorance of the American people and the courts have allowed it to continue. THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION.)

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. (CHECK. See #20. Even sadder, a few years ago, a dear friend of mine referred to The Constitution as “just a 200-year-old piece of paper”.)

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.” (CHECK.)

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. (CHECK.)

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. (CHECK. Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and the hits keep coming under #44’s regime.)

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. (In progress. The EPA and onslaught of Executive Orders are two of the strongest examples of completely bypassing the checks and balances created in the Constitution.)

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. (CHECK. Renamed to Internal Security Committee in 1969 and eliminated in 1975. In 1959 Truman called it “the most un-American thing in the country today.”)

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. (CHECK. We all remember SEIU President Andy Stearn’s Marxist tribute when he announced Workers of The World Unite.” Here’s #44 saying his presidency will be for the SEIU.)

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. (CHECK. If you can’t infiltrate, create your own. Think “Global Warming” and Green Energy.)

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. (CHECK to the 2nd statement. We all remember when it was widely accepted that some people are just plain mean. Now, the blame has to be shifted to some ethereal psychiatric disorder so that the person can be held harmless for their deeds.)

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (CHECK. See 22-28. In 1950 there were 385,144 divorces. By 2009 that number has jumped to 2,318,615.)

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. (CHECK. Rather than raising children away from parents, this was accomplished through removing parental guidance in the home and the promotion of ideas like freedom of expression, being your child’s best friend, removal of rules in the home by “training” parents that discipline was bad for their child’s self-esteem, etc.)

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems. (CHECK. Three words – Occupy Wall Street.)

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. (CHECK. If not all, certainly several. Mau Mau Uprising anyone? Hmmm, what rings about the Mau Mau Uprising? Oh yes, it took place in Kenya, home of #44’s “father”.)

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. (CHECK. In 1999 the U.S. handed the Panama Canal over to the corrupt government of Panama. Panama subsequently signed a 50-year lease for two ports at each end of the Canal with Hong Kong’s Hutchison Whampoa Company, run by Li Ka-shing, who is closely associated with the Beijing regime. This gave China’s Communist Party de facto control over the most strategic waterway in the West.)

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike. (IN PROGRESS. In the following year, 1959, Hubert Humphrey introduced into the Senate S. Res. 94 to repeal the Connally Reservation. This was followed by H. Res. 267 was introduced in favor of Humphrey’s bill. While no official repeal is found in the Congressional records it is widely known that #44 and his supporters favor acquiescing to international law in U.S. cases.)

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Jun 26, 2015 11:21:51   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Workinman wrote:
I am also saddened by this Ruf...I am so disappointed that I have had to see our highest court in the land has now been totally corrupted...a sad day for a nation that was founded on Christian principles.


This is true even though libs do not want people to know our history. I am 57. I admit I am amazed at how rapidly our nation is being destroyed. An experiment that worked and became once the greatest nation on earth. No longer. Remember the first Americans left England because of religious persecution and taxation without representation. This is what is happening to us now by a corrupt government. The founding fathers foresaw this and worked hard and prayed hard that we would strictly follow God and the carefully worded Constitution so we could prosper and avoid this evil. We did not. The evil is upon us. What the founding fathers were concerned about has happened. Hillary may even be more evil than satanic Obama. If she is elected it will be a clear sign we are doomed. I have been investigating moving to a number of other countries for years where I will be safer and be in the company of cultures that embrace God and morality.

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Jun 26, 2015 11:27:28   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
bahmer wrote:
The world is preparing for battle and the left and progressives are destroying the one vestige of hope that this world has ever seen. They are succeeding in their effort to destroy America but they will never destroy our God and our Savior. They will return and pronounce judgement not only on America and the liberals but also the whole world as it fights against God. What a difference as compared to when I was growing up and the majority in America were Christians or professed in a belief in Christ. It will only get worse.
The world is preparing for battle and the left and... (show quote)

So very true. I did not watch whatever comments Barry Boy had to say about the ruling. I never do. He sickens me. I shot one TV when I was young and on drugs. I cannot afford to shoot TV's today. They are more expensive. I am going to a couple of yard sales in the hood to clear my head from this depressing news. I shall return.

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Jun 26, 2015 11:29:14   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
no propaganda please wrote:
We are right with you. Shousen wrote about this goal in THE NAKED COMMUNIST here are the goals


45 Communist Goals by Dr. Cleon Skousen (1958)
08 Jan

The following is a list of Current Communist Goals as revealed by Dr. Cleon Skousen in The Naked Communist, written in 1958 and read into the Congressional Record in 1963. Of the 45, I can provide specific examples to at least 40 of them. While they may be masqueraded under the guise of something other than communism, the final result is the same – the dissolution of the Constitutional Republic that is the foundation of the United States of America. It’s interesting that the Representative was a member of the Democratic Party, the very party that has been largely enveloped by those with Communist and Socialist beliefs. Let’s see where we are in 2013. As you read, keep in mind that this list was written in 1958.

Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR., (D) OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. (CHECK. Presidents (both parties) have routinely supported U.N. measures that subject our sovereign power to the U.N.)

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. (CHECK. #44 has made a systematic effort to decrease the U.S. number of nuclear warheads while our enemies continue to grow theirs.)

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. (CHECK. #44 not only apologizes for our strengths, but works to undermine them in the name of moral strength.)

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. (CHECK.)

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. (CHECK. Let’s understand this does not refer to satellites in the sky, but to governments supportive of Communist Russia’s agenda. Currently, these would be the governments who embrace totalitarian regimes.)

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. (CHECK. Currently this refers not only to Communist domination, but also to Radical Islamic domination, i.e. Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, etc.)

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. (CHECK. 1971)

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. (CHECK. 1961 – remember, this list was written in 1958.)

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. (CHECK. Even in 2013 the conference is still going on.)

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. (CHECK, what are now Belarus and Ukraine were Soviet satellites until gaining their independence in 1991.)

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) (CHECK. Agenda 21.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. (CHECK – is it illegal? Nope, these days we are surrounded by mindless twits who think “Socialism is Cool”.)

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. (CHECK. Note the continued degradation of The Pledge of Allegiance and the systematic removal from schools and community government events.)

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. (CHECK. Not only does Russia have access, the entire world has access via the USPTO website.)

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (CHECK. The Democratic Party ideals are largely communistic in nature. Whether or not they want to recognize or admit it.)

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. Too many examples to list.)

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks. (CHECK, and none are so insidious as the NEA.)

18. Gain control of all student newspapers. (CHECK. Control the schools, control their media.)

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. Too many to list, but the December 30, 2012 Op-Ed favoring dumping The Constitution is a good example.)

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.)

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.” (CHECK. Look around. How many sculptures do you look at and ask, what the heck is that supposed to be?)

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.” (CHECK. Jesus on the Cross in urine, Mary surrounded by multiple buttocks with elephant dung, etc. all praised as “art”. I won’t give the artists the dignity of mentioning their names.)

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. (CHECK. Many of us remember George Carlin’s Seven Forbidden Words. While all of them can now be heard on cable channels, most of them can be heard on even network television.)

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. (CHECK. In 1953, the word “pregnant” could not be said on the I Love Lucy Show. We can all name shows where married couples had twin beds. Now, anything goes and what is on even network television used to be referred to as pornography.)

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.” (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. The point here? Undermine the family unit and weaken the community by creating single parent homes and non-reproductive couples. However, as many same-sex couples do have the desire to have children, this aspect of the mission has failed to a degree. The irony is that most “isms” consider homosexuality as offensive, however, as with anything else, it provides a means to their ends and the homosexual population are too eager to join the cause without knowing the history behind the “acceptance”. )

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.” (CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.)

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.” (CHECK. The ACLU and atheist groups have made this their primary mission. And the ignorance of the American people and the courts have allowed it to continue. THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION.)

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. (CHECK. See #20. Even sadder, a few years ago, a dear friend of mine referred to The Constitution as “just a 200-year-old piece of paper”.)

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.” (CHECK.)

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. (CHECK.)

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. (CHECK. Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and the hits keep coming under #44’s regime.)

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. (In progress. The EPA and onslaught of Executive Orders are two of the strongest examples of completely bypassing the checks and balances created in the Constitution.)

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. (CHECK. Renamed to Internal Security Committee in 1969 and eliminated in 1975. In 1959 Truman called it “the most un-American thing in the country today.”)

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. (CHECK. We all remember SEIU President Andy Stearn’s Marxist tribute when he announced Workers of The World Unite.” Here’s #44 saying his presidency will be for the SEIU.)

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. (CHECK. If you can’t infiltrate, create your own. Think “Global Warming” and Green Energy.)

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. (CHECK to the 2nd statement. We all remember when it was widely accepted that some people are just plain mean. Now, the blame has to be shifted to some ethereal psychiatric disorder so that the person can be held harmless for their deeds.)

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (CHECK. See 22-28. In 1950 there were 385,144 divorces. By 2009 that number has jumped to 2,318,615.)

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. (CHECK. Rather than raising children away from parents, this was accomplished through removing parental guidance in the home and the promotion of ideas like freedom of expression, being your child’s best friend, removal of rules in the home by “training” parents that discipline was bad for their child’s self-esteem, etc.)

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems. (CHECK. Three words – Occupy Wall Street.)

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. (CHECK. If not all, certainly several. Mau Mau Uprising anyone? Hmmm, what rings about the Mau Mau Uprising? Oh yes, it took place in Kenya, home of #44’s “father”.)

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. (CHECK. In 1999 the U.S. handed the Panama Canal over to the corrupt government of Panama. Panama subsequently signed a 50-year lease for two ports at each end of the Canal with Hong Kong’s Hutchison Whampoa Company, run by Li Ka-shing, who is closely associated with the Beijing regime. This gave China’s Communist Party de facto control over the most strategic waterway in the West.)

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike. (IN PROGRESS. In the following year, 1959, Hubert Humphrey introduced into the Senate S. Res. 94 to repeal the Connally Reservation. This was followed by H. Res. 267 was introduced in favor of Humphrey’s bill. While no official repeal is found in the Congressional records it is widely known that #44 and his supporters favor acquiescing to international law in U.S. cases.)
We are right with you. Shousen wrote about this go... (show quote)


Dang, you type fast. :lol: I'll be back. Going to hit a couple of nearby yard sales and pray. I would like to think positive for just a little while.

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Jun 26, 2015 12:03:31   #
bahmer
 
Rufus wrote:
So very true. I did not watch whatever comments Barry Boy had to say about the ruling. I never do. He sickens me. I shot one TV when I was young and on drugs. I cannot afford to shoot TV's today. They are more expensive. I am going to a couple of yard sales in the hood to clear my head from this depressing news. I shall return.


I also cannot stand to watch that liar in chief i n the white house. He is not a natural born citizen and is a bastard at best. His credentials would lead him to a world dictatorship and an enemy of all that is Godly and Holy. He is a Muslim from the get go or else he wouldn't have Valerie Jarrett as his confidant. I don't understand the left that wants to destroy America this badly that they would go through the extremes that they have to destroy our country.

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Jun 26, 2015 12:31:01   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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Yep, you would say that. Slavery was apart of every culture before America became a nation. Homosexuality goes all the way back to Rome Times. Our Founding Fathers based the creation of this great nation on Christian Beliefs. Now, the fiber of our nation is being ripped apart and apparently many people like you really don't give a damn!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


What don't I give a damn about? Oh, you and your idiotic opinions.

No, homosexuality goes all the way back to: Sodom and Gomorrah. Long before Rome's existence. Read the bible much? That's why it is called "Sodomy".

And no: they didn't base our nation on Christian beliefs: if so, you would have been strung up for Apostasy, you gap toothed mongrel.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:26:40   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
bahmer wrote:
I also cannot stand to watch that liar in chief i n the white house. He is not a natural born citizen and is a bastard at best. His credentials would lead him to a world dictatorship and an enemy of all that is Godly and Holy. He is a Muslim from the get go or else he wouldn't have Valerie Jarrett as his confidant. I don't understand the left that wants to destroy America this badly that they would go through the extremes that they have to destroy our country.


I completely agree. We have found there are quite a few Muslims in his admin., and a number of admitted socialists. We have also never had a president who lied so many times to Americans. Yes, I understand Clinton was a pathological liar but Barry lies with intent. Most people would think no one could possibly be as incompetent, incapable or such a failure as Obama. He even failed as a community organizer. But I think everything he does is designed to destroy us, his enemy, the infidel. We are all he hates. American, Christian and Jew. The republicans have done little to hold Obama to account or used their power effectively. Lois Lerner should be in jail along with Clinton. Obama should have been tried for treason. So many of our reps have turned from God too and I suppose God has given them over to a reprobate mind.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:35:02   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
What don't I give a damn about? Oh, you and your idiotic opinions.

No, homosexuality goes all the way back to: Sodom and Gomorrah. Long before Rome's existence. Read the bible much? That's why it is called "Sodomy".

And no: they didn't base our nation on Christian beliefs: if so, you would have been strung up for Apostasy, you gap toothed mongrel.

Yes sodomy has been around since Sodom and Gomorrah. It is an abomination to God now just as it was then when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes America was founded by Christians on Christian principles. You can verify this by studying American history. I did. Of course the liberals have tried to destroy or re-write much of our history but you can easily find it. I suggest you actually go to the library and read our Christian history from old textbooks so you will actually get the truth. Of course if you are a liberal then I am quite sure you have no interest in truth, logic or reasoning. I pray you are not a liberal. Hopefully you are a decent person who has been misled by liberal ungodly lies and there is still hope for you. Amen.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:40:22   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Rufus wrote:
Yes sodomy has been around since Sodom and Gomorrah. It is an abomination to God now just as it was then when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes America was founded by Christians on Christian principles. You can verify this by studying American history. I did. Of course the liberals have tried to destroy or re-write much of our history but you can easily find it. I suggest you actually go to the library and read our Christian history from old textbooks so you will actually get the truth. Of course if you are a liberal then I am quite sure you have no interest in truth, logic or reasoning. I pray you are not a liberal. Hopefully you are a decent person who has been misled by liberal ungodly lies and there is still hope for you. Amen.
Yes sodomy has been around since Sodom and Gomorra... (show quote)


Nope, I have: you're wrong. The Christian History of the US is as inventive as the political campaigns of this country: contrived crappola. Ironically, it was invented by FDR.

Here is a question to ask: why is Sodomy against the law? Because we are a Christian Nation or because of health codes. If it's against the law, why are prisoners allowed to do it? Why are gays allowed to live together? If they are allowed to live together than they should be allowed to get married. Their same sex fetish, isn't your problem or even God's problem-if they don't believe in God, it's their problem.

I would argue that regardless of a Historian's political or philosophical beliefs they "rewrite history", too funny.

Read the first amendment. You're entitled to BELIEVE anything you want, but it doesn't make it true.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:54:47   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Nope, I have: you're wrong. The Christian History of the US is as inventive as the political campaigns of this country: contrived crappola.

I would argue that regardless of a Historian's political or philosophical beliefs they "rewrite history", too funny.

Read the first amendment. You're entitled to BELIEVE anything you want, but it doesn't make it true.

It is common knowledge that in recent years many liberal textbooks have been scrutinized for false information and banned from our schools because they are totally inaccurate and opposite of the true facts. Unfortunately many have made it into the schools and are being taught to innocent young people. The Christian History is simply recorded facts. There are multiple recorded works that verify our nations Christian history because the authors were actually there to report what was going on. You lied when you said you have studied it because it is obvious to those of us who have that you have not. I am not disputing the fact of what the First Amendment says, but the First Amendment does not negate the fact that America was founded by Christians on Christian principles. Most of our basic laws even today come from the Ten Commandments regarding murder, theft, adultery, lying in court ( bearing false witness ) etc. I suggest you go to the library and study American History from the old books so you can learn the truth of our Christian heritage. Or you can simply continue to be a blind fool led by blind fools. The choice is yours and I will use a word you hate. Responsibility. The responsibility is yours.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:55:26   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
bahmer wrote:
I haven't heard anything about the same sex marriage ruling but using yesterday as a starting point I am afraid to ask but I am also afraid that I know the answer Somebody has something on a number of our supreme court justices or else we are reaching the end times faster that I realized.


It would be the latter Bahmer.

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Jun 26, 2015 14:03:08   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
If I may also add something...if two people of the same sex want to get married according to man's laws, all I can say is that they are free to do so. But they CANNOT be married by God's laws because accordingly marriage is between a man and a woman.

So if you want gay marriage, it will be by man's laws, NOT by God's laws.

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Jun 26, 2015 14:07:09   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Rufus wrote:
It is common knowledge that in recent years many liberal textbooks have been scrutinized for false information and banned from our schools because they are totally inaccurate and opposite of the true facts. Unfortunately many have made it into the schools and are being taught to innocent young people. The Christian History is simply recorded facts. There are multiple recorded works that verify our nations Christian history because the authors were actually there to report what was going on. You lied when you said you have studied it because it is obvious to those of us who have that you have not. I am not disputing the fact of what the First Amendment says, but the First Amendment does not negate the fact that America was founded by Christians on Christian principles. Most of our basic laws even today come from the Ten Commandments regarding murder, theft, adultery, lying in court ( bearing false witness ) etc. I suggest you go to the library and study American History from the old books so you can learn the truth of our Christian heritage. Or you can simply continue to be a blind fool led by blind fools. The choice is yours and I will use a word you hate. Responsibility. The responsibility is yours.
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Texas produces the most ridiculous revisionist history in the country....if it was approved their confirmation bias: it's garbage.

Any books written by Christians are for Christians. There is black history, immigrant history, personal experience. I suggest you read the "other" stuff. The bible is perfect example of that. One might have the impression that history was controlled by Jews. Mayans, Incas, Greeks, Mesopotamians, Egyptians had a history as well. That history doesn't mention God. Since Jewish history is primarily supported by the bible, it seems that Jews had or offered little to the world before or after the bible was published. Even today, they represent little of the world population. History doesn't support your delusional Christian World view. You're wrong and wrong headed.

I have a history of the world by H.G.Wells is that old enough for you? An original copy.

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Jun 26, 2015 14:07:49   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
mwdegutis wrote:
If I may also add something...if two people of the same sex want to get married according to man's laws, all I can say is that they are free to do so. But they CANNOT be married by God's laws because accordingly marriage is between a man and a woman.

So if you want gay marriage, it will be by man's laws, NOT by God's laws.

Amen. God's marriage is holy and is really a union between a man and a woman with God as the head. It is meaningful and blessed by God. Mans marriage is meaningless. But even worse is that marriage of the same sex is rebellion against Almighty God. Let them enjoy themselves with their perversions now. But they will suffer and pay the consequences for eternity.

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