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Jun 4, 2015 06:49:29   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Armageddun wrote:
Now brother, what ever "wife" says is gospel t***h.. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Her gospel. :wink:

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Jun 4, 2015 08:03:06   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Punctuation & grammar matter, but not so much in OPP. "Then," and, "than," are used interchangeably and I may be the last living English speaking person who actually knows the difference between Affect and Effect. I wish I could correct some of the misspelled titles for some threads because it makes me slightly more nuts than I normally am to see them each time a I scroll down the list. "Sigh!" The poor lads & lasses aren't being taught English speech, grammar, spelling OR punctuation in school anymore so what can we expect?
Punctuation & grammar matter, but not so much ... (show quote)


I always have to remind myself that affect is a verb which means to change something, whether beneficially or in a damaging way. Effect is noun that has to do with the result of how something affects something else. but those two are very confusing. Unfortunately my typing sk**ls are affected by my arthritis and the effects are often terrible.

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Jun 4, 2015 13:06:21   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I always have to remind myself that affect is a verb which means to change something, whether beneficially or in a damaging way. Effect is noun that has to do with the result of how something affects something else. but those two are very confusing. Unfortunately my typing sk**ls are affected by my arthritis and the effects are often terrible.

Read my post and think "ion."

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Jun 4, 2015 13:25:13   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Loki wrote:
So how does the effect of improper punctuation affect you? Basic chemistry lesson; you can change a verb, "affect," into a noun, by adding or deleting electrons from it's atomic structure. This process is known as ionization, and turns "affect" into an "affect ion," or affection.


I love it! Thanks.

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Jun 4, 2015 13:26:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
dennisimoto wrote:
I love it! Thanks.


Elementalary, Watson.

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Jun 4, 2015 13:37:27   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I always have to remind myself that affect is a verb which means to change something, whether beneficially or in a damaging way. Effect is noun that has to do with the result of how something affects something else. but those two are very confusing. Unfortunately my typing sk**ls are affected by my arthritis and the effects are often terrible.


OK, NPP. I don't mind being the second English speaking person who knows the difference.

Leo Buscaglia has written many inspirational and instructional books one of which was titled, "Teach Only Love." I was looking forward to what I could learn from it but right at the beginning there was an explanatory or introductory paragraph under the word, "Forward." It was the "foreword" to the book. I read it hoping it explained the misuse as an intentional play on words used to illustrate a point but was sadly disappointed. That error put a doubt in my mind that I could not shake and I only read about half of the book as a result. Navy tech manuals used to have either word at the beginning of each until I sent in a feedback report and today you will be hard pressed to find one that doesn't say, "Foreword."

My other pet peeves are "PIN number," "HIV v***s," and ATM machine." "Point in time," is right up there also.

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Jun 4, 2015 14:01:38   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
dennisimoto wrote:
OK, NPP. I don't mind being the second English speaking person who knows the difference.

Leo Buscaglia has written many inspirational and instructional books one of which was titled, "Teach Only Love." I was looking forward to what I could learn from it but right at the beginning there was an explanatory or introductory paragraph under the word, "Forward." It was the "foreword" to the book. I read it hoping it explained the misuse as an intentional play on words used to illustrate a point but was sadly disappointed. That error put a doubt in my mind that I could not shake and I only read about half of the book as a result. Navy tech manuals used to have either word at the beginning of each until I sent in a feedback report and today you will be hard pressed to find one that doesn't say, "Foreword."

My other pet peeves are "PIN number," "HIV v***s," and ATM machine." "Point in time," is right up there also.
OK, NPP. I don't mind being the second English spe... (show quote)


How about 'free gift' :?: :roll:

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Jun 4, 2015 14:08:21   #
rocketride
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Punctuation & grammar matter, but not so much in OPP. "Then," and, "than," are used interchangeably and I may be the last living English speaking person who actually knows the difference between Affect and Effect. I wish I could correct some of the misspelled titles for some threads because it makes me slightly more nuts than I normally am to see them each time a I scroll down the list. "Sigh!" The poor lads & lasses aren't being taught English speech, grammar, spelling OR punctuation in school anymore so what can we expect?
Punctuation & grammar matter, but not so much ... (show quote)


I especially love 'affect' and 'effect'--they separate those who know their $#|+ from those who don't.

Affect is a verb, except for when it is being a noun, of course.

The blizzard affected power delivery in an area almost 500 miles across. (v.)
Flat affect can be a sign of clinical depression. (n.)

Effect is a noun, except for when it is being a verb, (equally) of course.

The drug had many alarming side-effects. (n.)
It may be possible to effect changes in the procedure. (v.)


So, while 'affect' is usually a verb, and 'effect', usually a noun. "It is possible to effect a change in another's affect." is a perfectly valid sentence. How could that possibly confuse anyone?

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Jun 4, 2015 14:10:48   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Loki wrote:
So how does the effect of improper punctuation affect you? Basic chemistry lesson; you can change a verb, "affect," into a noun, by adding or deleting electrons from it's atomic structure. This process is known as ionization, and turns "affect" into an "affect ion," or affection.


Great, affection is a wonderful concept. Ain't language great?

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Jun 4, 2015 14:18:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
dennisimoto wrote:
I love it! Thanks.

Perhaps affection for Loki calls for lionization of the man. :-D

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Jun 4, 2015 14:44:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
slatten49 wrote:
Perhaps affection for Loki calls for lionization of the man. :-D


Good idea :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Loki the lion. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 4, 2015 16:01:54   #
carpenter patriot
 
Loki wrote:
ALRIGHT!!


Loki, bet that's for me. :idea:

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Jun 4, 2015 17:04:57   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Thinking of Loki and all the others on OPP who are committed to proper language form.
:)


It matters, because I say it matters! :!: :mrgreen: :roll:

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Jun 4, 2015 17:07:17   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
archie bunker wrote:
I don't care period


Obviously, as you failed to use punctuation at the end of your sentence.

:mrgreen: :hunf:

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Jun 4, 2015 17:14:34   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
dennisimoto wrote:
OK, NPP. I don't mind being the second English speaking person who knows the difference.

Leo Buscaglia has written many inspirational and instructional books one of which was titled, "Teach Only Love." I was looking forward to what I could learn from it but right at the beginning there was an explanatory or introductory paragraph under the word, "Forward." It was the "foreword" to the book. I read it hoping it explained the misuse as an intentional play on words used to illustrate a point but was sadly disappointed. That error put a doubt in my mind that I could not shake and I only read about half of the book as a result. Navy tech manuals used to have either word at the beginning of each until I sent in a feedback report and today you will be hard pressed to find one that doesn't say, "Foreword."

My other pet peeves are "PIN number," "HIV v***s," and ATM machine." "Point in time," is right up there also.
OK, NPP. I don't mind being the second English spe... (show quote)


Oh do let us provide some pet peeves:

There/their; its/it's; ain't; may/can; your/you're; no/know

Wonderful questions:

Where's it at?
Where you going to?

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