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Jun 1, 2015 10:50:53   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Fire Breathing Christian
How to NOT stop the Big Gay Bullies that are raping the culture.
May 12, 2015 by FireBreathingChristian

First off, let’s take a moment to duly note how pathetic and emasculated we’ve become here in the “land of the free and the home of the brave” when it is the assumed norm that American culture and civilization is going to be nagged, bullied and bought into compliance by a bunch of loudmouthed and fabulously malicious androgynous fruitloops.

Way to go, ‘Merica!

And way to go “American Christian church” for leading the way to this big gay mess. (See: Judgment begins with the Church…not the Democrats.)

We’ve apparently become so sad, lame, weak and wimpified in our proud rejection of God that we’re no longer even entitled to have a “cool” villain or nemesis by whom we might meet our ultimate doom. No Russian or Chinese invasion for us (at least not yet, anyway). No rampaging Muslim hordes in the American heartland (at least not yet, anyway). No Darth Vader or Dracula type bad guy to do us in. No sir; we’ll have none o’ that.

Nah, instead we’re being finished off by the Kardashians, Glee and an army of Rupaul wannabes.

Nice.

“We the people” have clearly established a new gold standard in the category of tragically comedic suicidal idiocy.

[insert “U! S! A!” chant here]

Perhaps the most pathetic aspect of the ongoing Pride parade that is American culture comes by way of those who are looking to “save us” by way of the same Christ-dismissing principles that got us here in the first place. Even at this ridiculously late hour and in light of the boatloads of Scriptural validation pouring down all around us, most professing Christians in America – especially the “politically conservative” ones – are still looking first and foremost to unbelievers and worldviews founded in unbelief for the salvation of their beloved America Idol.


The latest attempt by “good conservative Christians” to use the All-American virtues of religious pluralism (which God despises, by the way) and secularly defined tolerance comes by way of one of my favorite places: Texas. As reported yesterday in The Dallas Morning News, the Gaystapo and Gender Madness Fascists are all up in arms over some legislative proposals rolling around the Texas State legislature:

Leaders of civil-rights and liberal groups are warning Texas lawmakers not to damage the state’s economy and reputation by passing bills designed to undercut a possibly favorable ruling on same-sex marriage by the U.S. Supreme Court this summer.

As deadlines for passing bills begin to kick in this week, the Legislature’s two chambers could take floor action on Monday and Tuesday on as many as three bills on same-sex marriage.

Proponents say the measures are necessary to defend states’ rights and religious freedom against activist federal judges and gay rights zealots. Critics say the bills are blatant efforts to turn back the clock and deny equal treatment to people with a different sexual orientation or gender identity. (bold emphasis added)

Once again, please note that it’s not the Nature of God as revealed in His Word and through His Son that is to be defended. It is “religious freedom”…which obviously must include the “religious freedom” of folks like, say, for example: Satanists, witches and Muslims.

Oh yeah, that’ll please God.

Or god. Or mother earth. Or Oprah or Thor or Iron Man or whatever.

Who cares, right?

You pick your god and I’ll pick mine.

Live and let live, bro.

And god (or Oprah or Spider-man) bless ‘Merica, of course!

The longer this madness rolls on – the more that “conservative Christians” cling to the America Idol and its core virtue of religious pluralism – the more apparent it becomes that perhaps the great lesson of our time (and perhaps even the primary purpose of America at this moment in God’s creation of history) is to demonstrate what pride does to any people who decide to reject the essential exclusivity of Christ as King in practice and plant their flag instead on “virtues” like the “religious liberty” to do whatever one pleases regardless of what God has to say about it.

How many times can we look the other way and pretend not to see the crystal clear contradiction between what we are doing and the binding, living Word of the one true God?! (See: Openly reject God’s First Commandment? YES! WE! CAN!)

How many times can we just smile, shrug our shoulders and once again dive deeper into satanic “solutions” for the consequences of rejecting the essential exclusivity of Jesus Christ as King in practice?!

How may times can we dare to “wonder” at the insanity of Bruce Jenner “transitioning” into a Republican Christian Woman, lesbians teaching kindergarteners about “being gay”, the increasing homo-fascist economic persecution of obedient Christians, U.S. Army Cadets marching in red high heels under the leadership of a lesbian general, the emergence of “Transgender Girl(?) Scouts”, and the purposeful obliteration of family and gender as concepts (much less constructs that are to actually hold our culture and civilization together)?

How many times can we claim “shock” at the relentless advance of the Big Gay Anti-Christian Bullies that are raping and pillaging the culture unencumbered by any meaningful resistance?!

How long will we ignore the glaring reality that our “religious leaders” have done as much as anyone to lead us to this place? (See: Have the “We will not obey!” Christian “leaders” repented of their role in bringing us to this hellish condition in the first place?)

How long can we go on pretending that our favored “experts” and “leaders” from the Pagan Right haven’t done as much as anyone (except maybe our “religious leaders”) to bring us to this place?! (See: Confronting the Gay Orwellian Party: Dragging the Pagan Right out of the closet and into the light. and So what if Bruce Jenner claimed to be Napoleon? Or a Tomato? What then, Rick Santorum?)

How long can this go on?

How long will we resist and rebel against the Gospel command to repentance? (See: Why Americans don’t do repentance.)

How long will we refuse to submit to the Christ that we so loudly and proudly claim with our lips?

This is not a joke.

This is not a drill.

There are not multiple viable options or solutions for what ails us.

Thomas Jefferson, gifted as he was in so many ways, cannot save us.

The U.S. Constitution, beautiful as it is in so many ways, cannot save us.

The Pagan Right, appealing as they are to our “itching ears”, American pride and vanity, cannot save us.

Religious pluralism, secular tolerance and the “freedom to worship” false gods cannot save us. They can only continue to kill us.

God has spoken.

He has done so with loving, life-giving clarity, and He commands us to repent.

So do we really want to stop the cultural disintegration? Do we really want to avoid – and have our children avoid – the living hell of totalitarian Statism that is being ushered in by the Pagan Right and Pagan Left as the ultimate “necessary solution”? Do we really want to see this land and its people turn away from pride-fueled destruction and toward Christ-centered restoration?

If we do, we’ll repent, believe and be saved.

If we don’t, we won’t.

It really is that simple.

Even in America.

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Jun 3, 2015 23:06:25   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Fire Breathing Christian
How to NOT stop the Big Gay Bullies that are raping the culture.
May 12, 2015 by FireBreathingChristian

First off, let’s take a moment to duly note how pathetic and emasculated we’ve become here in the “land of the free and the home of the brave” when it is the assumed norm that American culture and civilization is going to be nagged, bullied and bought into compliance by a bunch of loudmouthed and fabulously malicious androgynous fruitloops.

Way to go, ‘Merica!

And way to go “American Christian church” for leading the way to this big gay mess. (See: Judgment begins with the Church…not the Democrats.)

We’ve apparently become so sad, lame, weak and wimpified in our proud rejection of God that we’re no longer even entitled to have a “cool” villain or nemesis by whom we might meet our ultimate doom. No Russian or Chinese invasion for us (at least not yet, anyway). No rampaging Muslim hordes in the American heartland (at least not yet, anyway). No Darth Vader or Dracula type bad guy to do us in. No sir; we’ll have none o’ that.

Nah, instead we’re being finished off by the Kardashians, Glee and an army of Rupaul wannabes.

Nice.

“We the people” have clearly established a new gold standard in the category of tragically comedic suicidal idiocy.

[insert “U! S! A!” chant here]

Perhaps the most pathetic aspect of the ongoing Pride parade that is American culture comes by way of those who are looking to “save us” by way of the same Christ-dismissing principles that got us here in the first place. Even at this ridiculously late hour and in light of the boatloads of Scriptural validation pouring down all around us, most professing Christians in America – especially the “politically conservative” ones – are still looking first and foremost to unbelievers and worldviews founded in unbelief for the salvation of their beloved America Idol.


The latest attempt by “good conservative Christians” to use the All-American virtues of religious pluralism (which God despises, by the way) and secularly defined tolerance comes by way of one of my favorite places: Texas. As reported yesterday in The Dallas Morning News, the Gaystapo and Gender Madness Fascists are all up in arms over some legislative proposals rolling around the Texas State legislature:

Leaders of civil-rights and liberal groups are warning Texas lawmakers not to damage the state’s economy and reputation by passing bills designed to undercut a possibly favorable ruling on same-sex marriage by the U.S. Supreme Court this summer.

As deadlines for passing bills begin to kick in this week, the Legislature’s two chambers could take floor action on Monday and Tuesday on as many as three bills on same-sex marriage.

Proponents say the measures are necessary to defend states’ rights and religious freedom against activist federal judges and gay rights zealots. Critics say the bills are blatant efforts to turn back the clock and deny equal treatment to people with a different sexual orientation or gender identity. (bold emphasis added)

Once again, please note that it’s not the Nature of God as revealed in His Word and through His Son that is to be defended. It is “religious freedom”…which obviously must include the “religious freedom” of folks like, say, for example: Satanists, witches and Muslims.

Oh yeah, that’ll please God.

Or god. Or mother earth. Or Oprah or Thor or Iron Man or whatever.

Who cares, right?

You pick your god and I’ll pick mine.

Live and let live, bro.

And god (or Oprah or Spider-man) bless ‘Merica, of course!

The longer this madness rolls on – the more that “conservative Christians” cling to the America Idol and its core virtue of religious pluralism – the more apparent it becomes that perhaps the great lesson of our time (and perhaps even the primary purpose of America at this moment in God’s creation of history) is to demonstrate what pride does to any people who decide to reject the essential exclusivity of Christ as King in practice and plant their flag instead on “virtues” like the “religious liberty” to do whatever one pleases regardless of what God has to say about it.

How many times can we look the other way and pretend not to see the crystal clear contradiction between what we are doing and the binding, living Word of the one true God?! (See: Openly reject God’s First Commandment? YES! WE! CAN!)

How many times can we just smile, shrug our shoulders and once again dive deeper into satanic “solutions” for the consequences of rejecting the essential exclusivity of Jesus Christ as King in practice?!

How may times can we dare to “wonder” at the insanity of Bruce Jenner “transitioning” into a Republican Christian Woman, lesbians teaching kindergarteners about “being gay”, the increasing homo-fascist economic persecution of obedient Christians, U.S. Army Cadets marching in red high heels under the leadership of a lesbian general, the emergence of “Transgender Girl(?) Scouts”, and the purposeful obliteration of family and gender as concepts (much less constructs that are to actually hold our culture and civilization together)?

How many times can we claim “shock” at the relentless advance of the Big Gay Anti-Christian Bullies that are raping and pillaging the culture unencumbered by any meaningful resistance?!

How long will we ignore the glaring reality that our “religious leaders” have done as much as anyone to lead us to this place? (See: Have the “We will not obey!” Christian “leaders” repented of their role in bringing us to this hellish condition in the first place?)

How long can we go on pretending that our favored “experts” and “leaders” from the Pagan Right haven’t done as much as anyone (except maybe our “religious leaders”) to bring us to this place?! (See: Confronting the Gay Orwellian Party: Dragging the Pagan Right out of the closet and into the light. and So what if Bruce Jenner claimed to be Napoleon? Or a Tomato? What then, Rick Santorum?)

How long can this go on?

How long will we resist and rebel against the Gospel command to repentance? (See: Why Americans don’t do repentance.)

How long will we refuse to submit to the Christ that we so loudly and proudly claim with our lips?

This is not a joke.

This is not a drill.

There are not multiple viable options or solutions for what ails us.

Thomas Jefferson, gifted as he was in so many ways, cannot save us.

The U.S. Constitution, beautiful as it is in so many ways, cannot save us.

The Pagan Right, appealing as they are to our “itching ears”, American pride and vanity, cannot save us.

Religious pluralism, secular tolerance and the “freedom to worship” false gods cannot save us. They can only continue to kill us.

God has spoken.

He has done so with loving, life-giving clarity, and He commands us to repent.

So do we really want to stop the cultural disintegration? Do we really want to avoid – and have our children avoid – the living hell of totalitarian Statism that is being ushered in by the Pagan Right and Pagan Left as the ultimate “necessary solution”? Do we really want to see this land and its people turn away from pride-fueled destruction and toward Christ-centered restoration?

If we do, we’ll repent, believe and be saved.

If we don’t, we won’t.

It really is that simple.

Even in America.
Fire Breathing Christian br How to NOT stop the Bi... (show quote)


Think of another weakness or sin than homosexuality, such as gluttony, avarice, pride, murder, adultery, hate, loving chocolate: which is the worse? Why such an obsessed singular focus? How did gays become the only bad people in the world? Do you not see the root of this over-emphasis on one sin? What would be the purpose of such determined obsession? Who or what gains in this endeavor?

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Jun 3, 2015 23:07:14   #
fiatlux
 
fiatlux wrote:
Think of another weakness or sin than homosexuality, such as gluttony, avarice, pride, murder, adultery, hate, loving chocolate: which is the worse? Why such an obsessed singular focus? How did gays become the only bad people in the world? Do you not see the root of this over-emphasis on one sin? What would be the purpose of such determined obsession? Who or what gains in this endeavor?

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Jun 8, 2015 09:29:46   #
Sliver
 
Sooooooooo true.
This message should be every where!
This is the message the church leaders should be saying every day
From the pulpit,
Or from the Vatican
More important than 'global (the warming, weather, climate,....)
Prayer and descernment .
Our last best hope

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Jun 8, 2015 09:37:33   #
Sliver
 
Distroy morality.

Don't judge.

No limitations on behavior.

Be your own guide to everything.

Until the government steps in and orders all to compleyor die

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Jun 8, 2015 10:08:51   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
fiatlux wrote:
Think of another weakness or sin than homosexuality, such as gluttony, avarice, pride, murder, adultery, hate, loving chocolate: which is the worse? Why such an obsessed singular focus? How did gays become the only bad people in the world? Do you not see the root of this over-emphasis on one sin? What would be the purpose of such determined obsession? Who or what gains in this endeavor?


Some of the things you listed are destructive to the individual (such as an obsessive love of eating chocolate, or unwarranted pride in oneself) but they are not destructive to the culture, but same sex behavior and adultery are, as they destroy the family unit and make raising children much more difficult. Those behaviors, such as homosexual activity which are against the design of our bodies are damaging to the entire culture. Where the real problem comes in is when people demand that others celebrate and validate such destructive behavior. Few people celebrate 800 pound people and say that the rest of us should honor their behavior and never criticize them for it. Smear chocolate all over yourself and parade down the street, and people will just think you need mental help, but wear the clothing of the opposite sex, or wear nothing but a jock strap and carry whips and chains and prance around in a "Gay Rights" parade and we are supposed to celebrate your behavior and welcome the parade down our streets, while we try to explain to our kids what is going on. If we dare tell them the truth, that these people do not represent the norm, that many of them need mental health therapy desperately, we are in trouble for "HATE SPEECH" and may get fined or put in jail.

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Jun 8, 2015 15:00:34   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Some of the things you listed are destructive to the individual (such as an obsessive love of eating chocolate, or unwarranted pride in oneself) but they are not destructive to the culture,


Her list when taken to the extreme is just as destructive, do you actually spend more than 5 seconds thinking about how you respond to anyone? Do you spend a lot of time alone agreeing with everything you think? Maybe you ought to get out more and actually debate someone. You might actually compose a viable argument. This isn't one. Wow, I got through that without threatening to take you to court(see below).

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but same sex behavior and adultery are, as they destroy the family unit and make raising children much more difficult.


How? How many gay families do you now that imploded?

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Those behaviors, such as homosexual activity which are against the design of our bodies are damaging to the entire culture.


Please provide evidence, what studies have been done...maybe I don't understand your use of the word "culture". I think I know what it means, but educate us, so that we are at least on the same plane.

Quote:
Where the real problem comes in is when people demand that others celebrate and validate such destructive behavior.


You have a lot gay days, parades, and homosexual events in your area...?...really? I don't "celebrate" where I work or where I live: maybe you ought to move?

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Few people celebrate 800 pound people and say that the rest of us should honor their behavior and never criticize them for it. Smear chocolate all over yourself and parade down the street, and people will just think you need mental help, but wear the clothing of the opposite sex, or wear nothing but a jock strap and carry whips and chains and prance around in a "Gay Rights" parade and we are supposed to celebrate your behavior and welcome the parade down our streets, while we try to explain to our kids what is going on.
Few people celebrate 800 pound people and say that... (show quote)


Wow, you ought to move or watch better shows on TV because, honestly (even when I lived in the bay area) I never went out of my way to go to gay parades so that I had to bother to explain anything. What exactly would you explain to them?

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If we dare tell them the truth, that these people do not represent the norm, that many of them need mental health therapy desperately, we are in trouble for "HATE SPEECH" and may get fined or put in jail.


Please provide any information about people (names, locations) who have gone to jail. I read occasionally about people getting sued, but no one has gone to jail unless they threatened someone. But maybe you have a better list than me. You constantly spew your thoughts here, anyone knocking on your door? Believe it or not: I'm not trying to pick on you. You're entitled to your opinions. I just think your thinking processes don't really walk to reality. You blow everything out of proportion without understanding how other people live.

I tend to be pragmatic because I can't possibly know what is in someone's heart. I understand your personal story and it is heart breaking. I can't relate at all. I was never mistreated. I had understanding parents who at least tried to put themselves in my shoes and certainly would have never harmed me. There are all kinds of people here that claim that they are Christians, who sound a lot like a Christian, but if they are, wow, Christ has a lot more work to do. Thus, to complain about a very specifically screwed up individual that is a homosexual that publicly gets a little crazy isn't any different than a clown in the circus.

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Jun 8, 2015 22:58:55   #
fiatlux
 
Sliver wrote:
Sooooooooo true.
This message should be every where!
This is the message the church leaders should be saying every day
From the pulpit,
Or from the Vatican
More important than 'global (the warming, weather, climate,....)
Prayer and descernment .
Our last best hope


Amen!

Reply
Jun 8, 2015 23:02:36   #
fiatlux
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Some of the things you listed are destructive to the individual (such as an obsessive love of eating chocolate, or unwarranted pride in oneself) but they are not destructive to the culture, but same sex behavior and adultery are, as they destroy the family unit and make raising children much more difficult. Those behaviors, such as homosexual activity which are against the design of our bodies are damaging to the entire culture. Where the real problem comes in is when people demand that others celebrate and validate such destructive behavior. Few people celebrate 800 pound people and say that the rest of us should honor their behavior and never criticize them for it. Smear chocolate all over yourself and parade down the street, and people will just think you need mental help, but wear the clothing of the opposite sex, or wear nothing but a jock strap and carry whips and chains and prance around in a "Gay Rights" parade and we are supposed to celebrate your behavior and welcome the parade down our streets, while we try to explain to our kids what is going on. If we dare tell them the truth, that these people do not represent the norm, that many of them need mental health therapy desperately, we are in trouble for "HATE SPEECH" and may get fined or put in jail.
Some of the things you listed are destructive to t... (show quote)


All sin is destructive to the culture because God is taken out of the mix. Get the adulterers out of your church first, those who have remarried without Biblical sanction. And the rich, fat people: gluttony is more greatly condemned.

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Jun 14, 2015 14:48:28   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Fire Breathing Christian
How to NOT stop the Big Gay Bullies that are raping the culture.
May 12, 2015 by FireBreathingChristian

First off, let’s take a moment to duly note how pathetic and emasculated we’ve become here in the “land of the free and the home of the brave” when it is the assumed norm that American culture and civilization is going to be nagged, bullied and bought into compliance by a bunch of loudmouthed and fabulously malicious androgynous fruitloops.

Way to go, ‘Merica!

And way to go “American Christian church” for leading the way to this big gay mess. (See: Judgment begins with the Church…not the Democrats.)

We’ve apparently become so sad, lame, weak and wimpified in our proud rejection of God that we’re no longer even entitled to have a “cool” villain or nemesis by whom we might meet our ultimate doom. No Russian or Chinese invasion for us (at least not yet, anyway). No rampaging Muslim hordes in the American heartland (at least not yet, anyway). No Darth Vader or Dracula type bad guy to do us in. No sir; we’ll have none o’ that.

Nah, instead we’re being finished off by the Kardashians, Glee and an army of Rupaul wannabes.

Nice.

“We the people” have clearly established a new gold standard in the category of tragically comedic suicidal idiocy.

[insert “U! S! A!” chant here]

Perhaps the most pathetic aspect of the ongoing Pride parade that is American culture comes by way of those who are looking to “save us” by way of the same Christ-dismissing principles that got us here in the first place. Even at this ridiculously late hour and in light of the boatloads of Scriptural validation pouring down all around us, most professing Christians in America – especially the “politically conservative” ones – are still looking first and foremost to unbelievers and worldviews founded in unbelief for the salvation of their beloved America Idol.


The latest attempt by “good conservative Christians” to use the All-American virtues of religious pluralism (which God despises, by the way) and secularly defined tolerance comes by way of one of my favorite places: Texas. As reported yesterday in The Dallas Morning News, the Gaystapo and Gender Madness Fascists are all up in arms over some legislative proposals rolling around the Texas State legislature:

Leaders of civil-rights and liberal groups are warning Texas lawmakers not to damage the state’s economy and reputation by passing bills designed to undercut a possibly favorable ruling on same-sex marriage by the U.S. Supreme Court this summer.

As deadlines for passing bills begin to kick in this week, the Legislature’s two chambers could take floor action on Monday and Tuesday on as many as three bills on same-sex marriage.

Proponents say the measures are necessary to defend states’ rights and religious freedom against activist federal judges and gay rights zealots. Critics say the bills are blatant efforts to turn back the clock and deny equal treatment to people with a different sexual orientation or gender identity. (bold emphasis added)

Once again, please note that it’s not the Nature of God as revealed in His Word and through His Son that is to be defended. It is “religious freedom”…which obviously must include the “religious freedom” of folks like, say, for example: Satanists, witches and Muslims.

Oh yeah, that’ll please God.

Or god. Or mother earth. Or Oprah or Thor or Iron Man or whatever.

Who cares, right?

You pick your god and I’ll pick mine.

Live and let live, bro.

And god (or Oprah or Spider-man) bless ‘Merica, of course!

The longer this madness rolls on – the more that “conservative Christians” cling to the America Idol and its core virtue of religious pluralism – the more apparent it becomes that perhaps the great lesson of our time (and perhaps even the primary purpose of America at this moment in God’s creation of history) is to demonstrate what pride does to any people who decide to reject the essential exclusivity of Christ as King in practice and plant their flag instead on “virtues” like the “religious liberty” to do whatever one pleases regardless of what God has to say about it.

How many times can we look the other way and pretend not to see the crystal clear contradiction between what we are doing and the binding, living Word of the one true God?! (See: Openly reject God’s First Commandment? YES! WE! CAN!)

How many times can we just smile, shrug our shoulders and once again dive deeper into satanic “solutions” for the consequences of rejecting the essential exclusivity of Jesus Christ as King in practice?!

How may times can we dare to “wonder” at the insanity of Bruce Jenner “transitioning” into a Republican Christian Woman, lesbians teaching kindergarteners about “being gay”, the increasing homo-fascist economic persecution of obedient Christians, U.S. Army Cadets marching in red high heels under the leadership of a lesbian general, the emergence of “Transgender Girl(?) Scouts”, and the purposeful obliteration of family and gender as concepts (much less constructs that are to actually hold our culture and civilization together)?

How many times can we claim “shock” at the relentless advance of the Big Gay Anti-Christian Bullies that are raping and pillaging the culture unencumbered by any meaningful resistance?!

How long will we ignore the glaring reality that our “religious leaders” have done as much as anyone to lead us to this place? (See: Have the “We will not obey!” Christian “leaders” repented of their role in bringing us to this hellish condition in the first place?)

How long can we go on pretending that our favored “experts” and “leaders” from the Pagan Right haven’t done as much as anyone (except maybe our “religious leaders”) to bring us to this place?! (See: Confronting the Gay Orwellian Party: Dragging the Pagan Right out of the closet and into the light. and So what if Bruce Jenner claimed to be Napoleon? Or a Tomato? What then, Rick Santorum?)

How long can this go on?

How long will we resist and rebel against the Gospel command to repentance? (See: Why Americans don’t do repentance.)

How long will we refuse to submit to the Christ that we so loudly and proudly claim with our lips?

This is not a joke.

This is not a drill.

There are not multiple viable options or solutions for what ails us.

Thomas Jefferson, gifted as he was in so many ways, cannot save us.

The U.S. Constitution, beautiful as it is in so many ways, cannot save us.

The Pagan Right, appealing as they are to our “itching ears”, American pride and vanity, cannot save us.

Religious pluralism, secular tolerance and the “freedom to worship” false gods cannot save us. They can only continue to kill us.

God has spoken.

He has done so with loving, life-giving clarity, and He commands us to repent.

So do we really want to stop the cultural disintegration? Do we really want to avoid – and have our children avoid – the living hell of totalitarian Statism that is being ushered in by the Pagan Right and Pagan Left as the ultimate “necessary solution”? Do we really want to see this land and its people turn away from pride-fueled destruction and toward Christ-centered restoration?

If we do, we’ll repent, believe and be saved.

If we don’t, we won’t.

It really is that simple.

Even in America.
Fire Breathing Christian br How to NOT stop the Bi... (show quote)

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For someone who professes to be a Christian, might I ask when you're going to read the parts in the Bible where Jesus tells us to "love your neighbor as yourself" and "he who is without sin cast the 1st stone." Why is it that you'll be among the first to belittle a gay person, but won't say anything to yourself about "judging others?" Jesus' message was one of love; not one of hate and condemnation. Even the 'woman at the well' wasn't persecuted for her sins, but was told to "... go and sin no more." In none of your posts do I see the same kind of love for sinners that Christ displays for sinners. But, you're replete with hate, anger and condemnation, while showing yourself to be the standard we should hold ourselves to. Sorry, man, but in no way am I going to lower myself to your immoral and unethical standards. You can take your twisted interpretations of the Bible and take a long walk off of a short pier.

Do you go to Westboro Baptist Church? It sure sounds like you do.

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Jun 14, 2015 16:46:51   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
alabuck wrote:
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For someone who professes to be a Christian, might I ask when you're going to read the parts in the Bible where Jesus tells us to "love your neighbor as yourself" and "he who is without sin cast the 1st stone." Why is it that you'll be among the first to belittle a gay person, but won't say anything to yourself about "judging others?" Jesus' message was one of love; not one of hate and condemnation. Even the 'woman at the well' wasn't persecuted for her sins, but was told to "... go and sin no more." In none of your posts do I see the same kind of love for sinners that Christ displays for sinners. But, you're replete with hate, anger and condemnation, while showing yourself to be the standard we should hold ourselves to. Sorry, man, but in no way am I going to lower myself to your immoral and unethical standards. You can take your twisted interpretations of the Bible and take a long walk off of a short pier.

Do you go to Westboro Baptist Church? It sure sounds like you do.
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You and i apparently have a different concept of what it is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. In order to love myself, I have to try to make myself the best person I can be. That means that I have to work hard to not do those things that are sins, including stealing, lying, cheating on my spouse. If I love my neighbor I have to try to help him be the best he can be. to me that means helping him overcome acting on sinful desires such as having sex with his same sex friend, or a woman he is not married to. apparently your concept is that to love someone means to accept, validate and often celebrate those things that God has said are sins. The pagan Christian concept that the article is about includes the idea that the only kind of same sex activity that is condemned is during temple rituals, or as a group activity, but a "relationship" with someone of the same sex is, according to the pagan Christianity in the article is holy and valid in God's eyes. the articles about the research indicating that the genetic influence in homosexual behavior is very little, and that thousands of people have been able to develop an opposite sex attraction and live happily as heterosexuals. The people whose identity first is of their sexual "orientation" have a difficult problem changing because they need the "gay" identity. that is their choice if they wish to believe that their sexual identity is primary in their definition of self, but it is harmful to themselves, and damaging to society. Frankly, if that is what they want, I really don't care. what concerns me is that they are working hard to convince children who are learning about themselves as people that the temporary same sex attraction that is really common in children means that they are homosexual and should act on it, by today's concepts act early and often, sort of like voting in Chicago. Pushing that agenda on children is hateful and damaging. Helping them understand that for most kids that same sex attraction in temporary and is just a part of their learning what it is to be male or female. I see nothing hateful in that approach. to consider that approach hateful requires that you accept the concept that your sexual attraction is hard wired and cannot be changed and even the "gay" activists will admit that concept is a lie.

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You and i apparently have a different concept of what it is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. In order to love myself, I have to try to make myself the best person I can be. That means that I have to work hard to not do those things that are sins, including stealing, lying, cheating on my spouse. If I love my neighbor I have to try to help him be the best he can be. to me that means helping him overcome acting on sinful desires such as having sex with his same sex friend, or a woman he is not married to. apparently your concept is that to love someone means to accept, validate and often celebrate those things that God has said are sins. The pagan Christian concept that the article is about includes the idea that the only kind of same sex activity that is condemned is during temple rituals, or as a group activity, but a "relationship" with someone of the same sex is, according to the pagan Christianity in the article is holy and valid in God's eyes. the articles about the research indicating that the genetic influence in homosexual behavior is very little, and that thousands of people have been able to develop an opposite sex attraction and live happily as heterosexuals. The people whose identity first is of their sexual "orientation" have a difficult problem changing because they need the "gay" identity. that is their choice if they wish to believe that their sexual identity is primary in their definition of self, but it is harmful to themselves, and damaging to society. Frankly, if that is what they want, I really don't care. what concerns me is that they are working hard to convince children who are learning about themselves as people that the temporary same sex attraction that is really common in children means that they are homosexual and should act on it, by today's concepts act early and often, sort of like voting in Chicago. Pushing that agenda on children is hateful and damaging. Helping them understand that for most kids that same sex attraction in temporary and is just a part of their learning what it is to be male or female. I see nothing hateful in that approach. to consider that approach hateful requires that you accept the concept that your sexual attraction is hard wired and cannot be changed and even the "gay" activists will admit that concept is a lie.
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And, by what account do you label views different from yourself, "pagan Christian?" I hold my views as viable to me and my interaction with others, as "Christian," yet you condemn them as "pagan?" Could I not conclude, using your logic, that your exclusionary Christianity is even more "pagan?" Unless we believe as you, we're "pagan?" I don't think so.

It's not your place to judge or speak for God. Neither is it mine.

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no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
alabuck wrote:
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And, by what account do you label views different from yourself, "pagan Christian?" I hold my views as viable to me and my interaction with others, as "Christian," yet you condemn them as "pagan?" Could I not conclude, using your logic, that your exclusionary Christianity is even more "pagan?" Unless we believe as you, we're "pagan?" I don't think so.

It's not your place to judge or speak for God. Neither is it mine.


I did not label you as a pagan Christian. It is a term that has been used by theologians to discuss those people who say they are Christians but do not believe what the Bible says about God and Jesus. I did not coin the term.

When people say that they believe in the laws of God but say that God did not condemn those people who have sex with someone of the same sex as long as they are in a committed relationship, I would like to know whether or not the God who created the universe, was there at the beginning, is now and ever shall be somehow "didn't know" that some people would be sexually attracted to those of the same sex. The God who knows all things forgot this fact or He would have said that as long as you are committed to your partner, same sex or opposite sex, God is fine with that arrangement.Were you to say to God "It's OK God, we love each other and want to be together, so it is not a sin" what would you say when He asked " OK, then if you love two people equally, really care for each other should I have included in the commandment that marriage units of three or more people are holy and sanctified as long as you all love each other" If, as you believe your sexual preference is "hard wired" then God planned it that way so He would have intentionally created people who were an abomination. If these things are your perception of God, then your god is full of hate and hopes people fail so he can burn them forever (sounds more like Satan to me) Pagans believed in gods that behaved in the way I just described, which is how the term pagan Christian came into being.

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Please provide any information about people (names, locations) who have gone to jail. I read occasionally about people getting sued, but no one has gone to jail unless they threatened someone. But maybe you have a better list than me. You constantly spew your thoughts here, anyone knocking on your door? Believe it or not: I'm not trying to pick on you. You're entitled to your opinions. I just think your thinking processes don't really walk to reality. You blow everything out of proportion without understanding how other people live.

I tend to be pragmatic because I can't possibly know what is in someone's heart. I understand your personal story and it is heart breaking. I can't relate at all. I was never mistreated. I had understanding parents who at least tried to put themselves in my shoes and certainly would have never harmed me. There are all kinds of people here that claim that they are Christians, who sound a lot like a Christian, but if they are, wow, Christ has a lot more work to do. Thus, to complain about a very specifically screwed up individual that is a homosexual that publicly gets a little crazy isn't any different than a clown in the circus.
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